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Jerry Falwell 1933 - 2007

5/15/2007 6:10 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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91.

ED    

Pandora

Thanks for clearing that up. I see better now what you're saying. I don't see pornography as the cause either. It's just part of it all. If you can help anyone with such sexual frustration, then more power to you.

2670 days ago
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married with children    

Before I start a war here, I am not refering to anyone here on the posts, and I am not talking about Jerry Falwell. Thank God, I haven't been confronted with the kind of evil I am talking about, but I do think there are some whom evil would be an appropriate word for.

2670 days ago
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Party 'till you die!    

Hey pandora, sorry if my comment sounded like I though your beliefs were strictly oriented about only sex. I understand, thru your many posts, that is indeed, much more than that! I understand it to be a total healing from the heart outwards. My mother said that empathy is one of the most crucial aspects in life. While no one can fully empathize for all things and people, we must at least try to do it w/ people who are willing to reciprocate it. On a purely philosophical level, it is even possible to have some level of empathy for a slime bag like Hitler- in that it is sad to think that there was no one is his life to just pull him aside and say " Hey, what's the deal with wanting to kill all these people? We need to sit down and talk a bit and then we're going to get you on a starting round of psychiatric care!" Imagine if someone had done this, but it's in the past now and we can't focus on changing history, but only on preventing current and future problems. I think that most of us, on both sides are trying to do that in some capacity of other. All I know is that when I empathize with those around me and they w/ me, amazing things are possible! Not so much in any sort of 'super-natural' way, but in a 'supra-natural' way. Many people get these concepts confused and should be aware of the difference.
I have very good levels of trained observation and empathy to the degree that many people have thought that I am 'psychic'. No, I'm not, but my ex GF in NYC, who saw the 2nd plane hit in Manhattan, still thinks I am. I just knew her so well that I would often answer questions BEFORE she even said the 1st two words. She would ask "HOW did you know? You must be psychic!" Well, even when I was wrong and falsely predicted things, she just wrote it off and still believes that I am psychic. I even enjoy 'cold reading' people as an exercise and tell them things about themselves that they simply believe is impossible for people to figure out. It's like detecting when someone is lying by observing their facial actions, how their eyes and body move, and other factors. Nothing 'supernatural', just honed observational skills. Much like 'sizing up' people like have learned in MA. I can instantly walk into a room full of people and quickly identify what people's intentions are by how they interact w/ everything. This is why I can usually avoid most bad, or dangerous situations. But like most everyone else, I have had those moments when you haven't seen someone in a long time and you think about them, look at your phone, and it rings w/ them saying the same thing?
Pandora and even people like ED, I believe that you are Very Empathetic people! I can 'sense' it from your posts and it's NOT some sort of voodoo, just observation ( and yes, it was a compliment!).

2670 days ago
94.

ED    

Seeks Peace
I also remember one of the most famous quotes from Benjamin Franklin where he said, "God governs in the affairs of man. If a sparrow cannot fall to the groud without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?" He goes on to say," We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid we shall succed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel".

I don't know where you got those quotes, but it seems the source likes to pick and choose what is relevant.

2670 days ago
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Party 'till you die!    

ED, I think that during those times, religion was heavily in fashion and was impossible for people not to deal with. They did not have the same concepts that we have now. You would find yourself in deeper waters back then openly criticizing religion. Ben Frankiln was a Major Atheist for his time- it is well documented. Many others were critical of religion too, but it took a great deal of bravery to do so back then. But then again, people still believed in burning people w/ mental health issues as being possessed by evil spirits. Luckily, science and reason have eliminated most of these problems. Science is still Not perfect tho, as we have things like nuclear and chemical weapons, but without it we would still believe that sickness was caused by evil spirits. Religion has fought tooth and nail against many of these break-throughs, because it proved that religion does NOT have all the answers either. I believe, yes believe, that without critical thinking and science, science would still be stuck in the Bronze Age, during the times of the bible. I'm glad it isn't.

2670 days ago
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married with children    

I think Hitler was evil. If I would have had the chance, I would have killed him.

2670 days ago
97.

Party 'till you die!    

Franklin was still an atheist tho. Yes, people do pick and choose what they like, but he was an agnostic. I found that out years ago when I studied him for a history report. I was Very Surprised by it, given the times. Just because I might say the words 'god' and 'hell' sometimes, does NOT mean i am doing it from a religious background. Given that time, I can see why he quoted religious doctrine. But Franklin was also a bit of a wild man in his day.Jefferson was Very Critical of religion tho, but I did not study him. Remember, most of those people back then were Free Masons too! FM doctrines are very, Very STRANGE!!!

2670 days ago
98.

ED    

Seeks Peace

I , most respectfully, can't accept that. It doesn't make sense that these men who were brave enought to face the hangmans noose and declare war on the greatest naval and military power on the earth, would be such cowards and commit hypocracy in order to hide their atheism or agnosticism and save their hides from simple persecution. These were men who spoke their minds even to a king! There were other vocal atheists of the time who had no fear. Why should these great men. I think your source is trying to re-write history.

2670 days ago
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Party 'till you die!    

M.L. Hitler was NOT a man deserving of empathy! I just used him as an example. But without him and WW2, we probable would have never gained the strength as a nation that we have now. That war made us a Super Power. Too bad we seem to be forgetting some of those lessons now!

2670 days ago
100.

pandora    

Seeks Peace, no apology neccessary.

I really enjoyed the quotes. These pretty much support my view on Church and State. That is why I do well in the US, even though my gov is more like Rome than Adams was wishing for.

2670 days ago
101.

Party 'till you die!    

ED, no insult taken! I think you are an AWESOME PERSON who I have great respect for!!! We are still going to have our differences about many things, but I do NOT Respect you any less for it. I wish I could remember the specific book I read on Franklin. But many other books say the same thing and many of them were not flattering in the least bit! I still don't believe in Creationism and many other things, but that doesn't mean I'm an idiot either. You should read a book on Franklin sometime. He was so strange that I wouldn't be surprised if he lived presently, that he probably would have been caught in a child porn ring! I kid, but not by much! Who doesn't have skeletons in their closet? He certainly did!
BTW, the net is starting to slow down, so some of these posts might get lost, or slowed down quit a bit- if I don't respond, it's because of that.

2670 days ago
102.

Party 'till you die!    

Pandora, YEEEEP! I think I'm going to get drunk and visit a vomitorium afterwards- meet ya there! Don't forget to bring the entrails!

2670 days ago
103.

ED    

I know what your trying to say, but through the course of their lives, especially when approaching final years, men change their minds. Franklin may have been wild in his day, but this was not the time of frivolous fun and games. I think they all knew they needed Divine Inspiration for what they were about to do. Bring about a political upheaval and experiment never seen before. I only know what they wrote at this time period. If they wanted to base everything upon no religion, all they had to do was point to the Church of England as an example. Don't you see. It would be just as easy to form a nation with no religious statements or writings at all. They didn't have to go out of their way and tell outright lies.

I respect you and your opinions, Seeks Peace, please believe that, but if you would rather believe that your nation was founded by cowards and liars instead of brave men of religious conviction then you've just justified every criticism that we have ever suffered from nations of tyranny and communism to which our Declaration and Constitution place us diametrically opposed to.

2670 days ago
104.

Party 'till you die!    

Pandora and ED, here's where I lifted those quotes from:

http://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm

ED, to be fair, I will warn you that this is an atheist site, so be fore warned! Thot I should tell you that before you go there- I do give a damn about your beliefs enough to do this!

2670 days ago
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married with children    

Benjamin Franklin was always being criticized for his progressive thinking. In all the books I have read about him, I have never heard anyone say he was atheist or agnostic. Doesn't mean there aren't some books that might say that, however; I find his autobiography most interesting, and since it is his own account of his life, I don't recall him ever saying that he was either.

P.S. After his wife died, I believe he was somewhere in his sixties, and some said he was quite the "flirt". But considering the times he lived in, that could have meant anything, or nothing at all.

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