Smart Alec? Baldwin Does "The View"

46. Alec Baldwin is an abuser.

Abusers externalize responsibility for their actions, believing that others are at fault or that others make them behave this way!

Predictably an abuser will claim some variation of the following as Alec Baldwin has done.

She knows how to push my buttons or

She wanted me to go off or

She pushed me too far or

There's only so much I can take or

There is NOTHING in this world today that can justify what he did with regards to Ireland, an 11 year old child.

He is no different than any other abuser - a master at excuse making!

And now, he is attempting to try his case on this program Friday and doing so although there is an alleged 'gag order' - the same order he has filed a complaint in Court of being violated by his former wife.

Let's not forget his book, which chronicles this case - although having an alleged gag order issued that prohibits disclosure of court proceedings HE has written a book!

And too, was it not his spokesperson who denigrated Kim shortly following the public disclosure of this taped message when claiming she cannot keep her mouth shut?!

He had his brother on Larry King Live last night - HE was afraid to disclose his own feelings when asked about this situation out of fear of his brother and what he would do to him and HE is an adult!

Don Imus was fired for being stupid when vilifying adult women - where is the outrage for this man, Baldwin, when threatening further damage and harm to come to his 11 year old child in addition to that, which was clearly verbal abuse and denigration of her as a young girl and human being.

NO ONE but A Baldwin is responsible for him and what he does and/or what he says!

NO ONE!

It is irrelevant as to who 'leaked' this tape - his voice alone is on the message left for his daughter.

Typically, as all abusers, Baldwin is trying desperately to divert attention away from himself by claiming other issues e.g. violation of court orders or she made me do or that I have suffered for so long yadda, yadda, yadda...

Prior to having him on this show perhaps the hosts will educated themselves to domestic violence and abuse, power and control issues - Alec Baldwin is no different than the millions of men who exert power and control over a spouse, former spouse, others, and their own children with abuse, overly aggressive behavior, threats, manipulation and intimidation.

Parental Alienation is claimed by him however not proven to be true by a Court of law - PA belongs to the father's rights movement as their mantra [more often than not when a NCP is attempting to be relieved of his CS obligations] although it is not even accepted by the medical community.

Alec Baldwin CHOOSES to live on the opposite coast of his child although having the means to live closer to Ireland.

He has abused his wife and this cannot be kept hidden from the child.

Children begin to figure issues out on their own and the begin to take steps to protect themselves - how many times has/does Alec Baldwin speak to his former wife in this manner, others and/or the child?

He has abused his own daughter via this taped message he left - no one put those words into his mouth and there is no excuse to justify it.

The voice mail speaks for itself.

Alec Baldwin has a history of volatile and angry outbursts.

Being a victim of abuse and having my child abused by my former husband I find it OFFENSIVE that this abuser is being given a platform.

If claiming PA HE alone has no one to blame but himself due to his abusiveness - abusers always deny and minimize their abuse and they feel justified!!!!!

One question Rosie O'Donnell should ask, but she will not, if claiming that Kim or others are in Contempt for disclosing this matter openly then why is HE writing a book and/or appearing on TV to discuss this case?!

His apology was not sincere - his only concern is this - that HIS public image is tarnished.

He validated Kim's claims made of his aggressive and irresponsible behavior exhibited and this angers him more without a doubt.

Posted at 1:03PM on Apr 25th 2007 by lily

47. I think it's sad that so many people act like they never said a mean word or a cuss word to their kids before in the heat of anger or frustration. It happens everyday in this world but it is ignored because it's not normally broadcast on television. Nobody really knows what has happend to cause such anger in their family to lead up to this. I'm not saying that it is okay, it never is okay, but it does happen. I don't think that he should loose his visitations for it. Who knows how Kim talks to their child or even how the child talks to her parents. We don't know!!! I know how kids that age can be as I am sure plenty of you do to, also how divorcing parents can sometimes pass their frustration on to their kids. Don't act like he commited some irrepairable crime that he should be condemed for.

Posted at 1:04PM on Apr 25th 2007 by judge-not

48. are you crazy?
Alec is and he is an angry hostile man.
becareful ladies.
i would not want to see him tarnish your standing and it will for me if you give this asshole airtime.

Posted at 1:04PM on Apr 25th 2007 by kadengirl

49. TMZ- Did you NOT get the JOKE about the "phone-in" interview??????? He was coming on the show in person from the beginning! "Phone-in".........get it now!!!!!!

Posted at 1:07PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Amy

50. WOW!!! Two losers. Birds of a Feather..........

Posted at 1:08PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Alec's Done or Alec's Dumb either way

51. 10 reasons celebrities shouldn’t have kids
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By Helen A.S. Popkin
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You know the saying: “You need a SAG card to make a movie, but you don’t need a license to have a kid.” With the spate of bad celebrity-parenting news, who's looking out for the children? Either you’re a celebrity, or you’re a parent. Here are 10 reasons why you can't have it all.

1. Innate inability to distinguish between healthy parent-child communication and “Glengarry Glen Ross.” The verbal abuse received by most kids isn’t nearly as eloquent as that now infamous (and well-annunciated) rant Alec Baldwin deposited on his 11-year-old (or 12-year-old, he doesn't seem sure) daughter’s voice mail. Then again, most dads aren’t mad-talented actors with booming Shakespearean chops. Nor are most moms bat crazy enough to leak such a voice mail to TMZ.com for everyone, including their daughter’s classmates, to hear — as Baldwin claims was done by mom Kim Basinger (and she denies). But hey, who wants to hear the emotional meltdowns of non-famous parents anyway? To paraphrase David Mamet, famous parents are for closers.

2. Amicable divorces even creepier than those that go DEFCON 1. Yes, yes, a decade-plus of well-publicized avarice among Baldwin and Basinger is shameful, ugly and undoubtedly damaging to their only child. When reading one famous divorce file, the mind shudders to imagine the dramatic throw-downs witnessed by the children of Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards. But battling parents is something we can all understand. Heck, they even make reality TV shows about it — “Nanny 911,” “Dr. Phil,” “Divorce Court.”

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But what exactly is up with the Willis-Kutcher-Moores? When Bruce and Demi hit the town with Rumer, Scout and Tallulah, along with Uncle Ashton, it looks like the former marrieds had an older son we never heard about. It’s even worse when Bruce brings a date – providing the illusion that B & D hired a really hot nanny. Which brings us to Reason 3. . . .

3. Inability to choose appropriate stepparents. Uncle Ashton indeed! So here you are, young Rumer, Scout or Tallulah, on the verge of pubescence, experiencing your first crushes on the smooth-skinned boys of Tiger Beat magazine … and your mom brings home the cover boy! Not only that, she’s letting him take you out solo to various Hollywood shindigs. You know, as if on a date! No one’s implying any impropriety on Uncle Ashton’s part. Hey, he’s hardly Woody Allen. But it’s got to be weird for the girls. And for those steeped in Hollywood lore, it’s vaguely reminiscent of the whole Lana Turner scandal.

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4. Insistence on wrecking soccer games for everyone. Who’s going to pay attention to little Isabelle or Connor Kidman-Cruise kicking a goal, when you can gawk at the paparazzi gawking at Tom Cruise and his pregnant fiancee Katie Holmes? Or gawk at Tom Cruise and wife Katie as they make out at Connor’s basketball game. (Hey! They must really be in love!) Or Tom and Katie, with new biological baby Suri in tow, looking like they hate each other at yet another game in which one of Tom’s adopted kids from his previous marriage to Nicole Kidman is playing? Who cares about sportsmanship, when look, Katie’s back to her pre-baby weight!

5. Don’t allow biological children nearly as much press as those Third World kids Mommy and Daddy keep adopting. It’s bad enough when rich-and-famous moms, dads or both force real-world values by making their kids do chores and throwing away toys left out of the toy box – just ask Madonna’s Lourdes and Rocco. Once the parental units start outsourcing kids from other countries, the less exotic children are lucky if the school photographer takes their picture. Check out Lourdes trying to jam into the picture with mom Madonna and new brother David on a recent visit to his home country, Malawi. Yeah, we were interested in Brangelina offspring Shiloh for like, a minute. But how soon we forget once Angelina Jolie starts talking about getting another kid from Chad.

6. Can’t find child-size Louis Vuitton dog carriers. Teacup Chihuahua breeders would do well to take note of People magazine’s popular “baby bump” issues, and cut back on their spring litters. More than ever before, the hot celebrity accessory this season is the child — domestic or imported. It’s only a matter of time before even Paris Hilton hops on this trend, ordering blond-hair extensions for her mini mirror image. Here’s hoping Paris Jr. isn’t as easily misplaced as Tinkerbell, the little dog once thought stolen, only to be found wondering lost in the Hilton estate.


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7. Safety schmafety! Though it seems obvious to us regular folk, you don’t dangle babies from balconies (Michael Jackson) or in front of large aggressive reptiles (the late Steve Irwin). And while it’s easy to find fault with Britney installing a baby seat incorrectly, hey, at least she was using one! Same goes for letting the baby drive while she sits on your lap. It looks dangerous to us, but you never know when teaching a baby to drive might come in handy. What if Britney’s too drunk to drive herself? How irresponsible is letting the baby drive then? Huh?

8. The whole naming thing. This point is obvious and overplayed. Yet celebrities still don’t get it. Nobody’s getting a Golden Globe for the most messed-up moniker guaranteed to get your kid beat up for life. So stop with the Apple, Audio Science, Phinneus, Hazel, Pilot Inspektor, Kal-El, Shiloh Nouvel, Suri, Scout, Rumer, Tallulah, Lourdes, Rocco, Salad Fork, whatever. You know who you are. For all her faults, the late Anna Nicole Smith at least had the good sense to name her kids something normal — even if she could only think of one name for both kids.

9. Even more reality shows. If celebrities aren’t willing to put children first, at least they should consider their fans. Screwed-up celebrity children invariably spawn more celebrity children reality shows. From “The Osbournes” and “The Simple Life,” to the new A&E series “Sons of Hollywood,” starring Aaron Spelling’s son, Randy, and Rod Stewart’s kid, Sean, how soon until every network is jammed with the exploits of these overprivileged brats?

10. No wire hangers. Ever. We don’t want to read their tell-all memoirs either.

Alec Baldwin is a JOKE!!!!!!!

Posted at 1:11PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Maria

52. Get Tom Cruise in with them...Maybe they can all hang upside down together

Posted at 1:18PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Alec's Done or Alec's Dumb either way

53. I guess I'd go after him if I hadn't said things to my kid I now rerget.

Posted at 1:22PM on Apr 25th 2007 by O. Leander

54. Alec - what a puke.
Hope the family court judge takes away his visitation with Ireland permanently. At least, require a child psychologist present during his visits. He's dangerously edging closer to total insanity and Ireland has already been victimized enough by his tirades. Ireland's state and peace of mind is more important than Alec's alleged 'right' to see his daughter.

My heart goes out to Kim, who I see is getting demonized by people who I have to think are just like Alec.

Posted at 1:24PM on Apr 25th 2007 by CJ

55. That Rosie supports Alec isn't necessarily surprising.
That Barbara Walters allows Alec anywhere near The View is shocking.

No wonder that show has always creeped me out. It's Barbara, not Rosie, who has shown her true colors.

Posted at 1:30PM on Apr 25th 2007 by CJ

56. My father was a lot like Alec Baldwin. Very good looking, charming, smart and smooth. Women fell all over him and men wanted to be like him. To the outside world he was one thing and at home he was something different. He liked to pick on his little girl the most. The voice mail from Alec Baldwin to his daughter was the kind of thing I had to live with my entire life. Believe me, that message is just the tip of the iceberg. He is not angry, he did not lose his temper ....he is enraged! Mr. Balwin is the kind of guy who likes to go on talk shows and tell the world what a wonderful father he is and then have no problem calling his child a "pig". Who ever leaked the tape was very brave to go against the image that Mr. Baldwin had created for himself and so many have fallen for. It is very difficult for women and girls to show the world the truth when they are up against a man who shows a different face to the public. In Mr. Baldwin's case he was going through the mass media telling the world he was "father of the year." Whoever leaked that tape was very brave indeed. I know the danger and the fear that kind of person can breed in a child and it is very sad that so many adults protect and enable that person rather than stopping them. In a time when so many in Virginia and in Iraq have lost children it makes me sick to hear that tape.

Posted at 1:33PM on Apr 25th 2007 by MAGGIE

57. Watch out LITTLE PIG...the BIG BAD WOLF is coming, and he IS GOING to HUFF, and PUFF, and BLOW YOUR PHONE APART !!!! ....LMAO.

Posted at 1:33PM on Apr 25th 2007 by GrandmasHouse

58. I'm not buying this excuse of "well, I've said things I regret, too". I was a handful growing up, my father was strict and got furious with me many times....and rightfully so. Still, he never crossed the line into the kind of verbal abuse Baldwin spewed all over his kid. Bad parenting is bad parenting, no matter how many of you identify with it. That's just like saying it's okay to drive drunk because, hey, I've done it, too.

Posted at 1:35PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Calls 'em like I sees 'em

59. Let's see how she turns this into Baldwin being a victim. I'm so over her, him and the rest of the Hollyweird crew.

Posted at 1:36PM on Apr 25th 2007 by Paul

60. ab on the view...there is no way I would be in the audience that day...would you?...i would feel as tho i was supporting him...i would feel dirty and as twisted as he is.

Posted at 1:36PM on Apr 25th 2007 by dw