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Jerry Falwell 1933 - 2007

5/15/2007 6:10 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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76.

pandora    

Dear Ed,

The polarized camps that ALWAYS set up camp, eventually are battling the demon in the mirror. Talk on their level and you will swirl in the toilet of righteousness - a peculiar section of hell that houses many a good meaning censor. They invariably end up batting at shadows and spending people's energy with talks of riotous alignments. This is the true definition of paranoia.

We have an opportunity to make new agreements that will span the globe in nanoseconds Ed, I'm not talking about worshipping idols! I'm talking about the sublime moment of simultaneous orgasm that is the only place an atheist can really get to touch the Creator and sing the OH OH OH GGAAAAAWWWWWWDDDDDD song. Christianity is alive in the hearts of billions of confused people who damn themselves daily in the name of their god. It really does hurt my heart and yes, I have a heart.

2613 days ago
77.

pandora    

Dear Lenny honey sweetie baby pie,

I let you in on another of my favorite mantra's:

TO BE WELL ADJUSTED TO A SICK COMMUNITY IS NOT SUCH A SIGN OF GOOD HEALTH!

I am here to converse as one hypocrite to another - create some heart space agreements about some evolutionary solutions - simple - I get bored real fast with the blame and shame tactics of divide and conquer. Eventually I get on with the living part.

2613 days ago
78.

ED    

Pandora
I'm not talking on any polarized level, I'm stating facts as reported in numerous news stories that pornography (not just kiddie porn alone) is found in the posession of the child molester every time one is arrested and the premises searched. This is compelling evidence that it is doing considerable damage to society.

Now as I stated before I really think there is much to learn from you and I will continue to listen no matter what disagreement we may have so bear with me. Another question I have is what is this "damning daily" by Christians you mentioned. I know many and I myself have not damned myself nor do I know of others who have. Don't see it.

2613 days ago
79.

pandora    

(ATTENTION LENNY -don't read this I didn't take any of the big words out)

Aloha Seeks Peace,
you directed a question to me about 'one-size-fits-all' about the methods I was touting - I didn't respond to it because you didn't seem to be around today. I believe I was referring in my past post about experiences with PROCREATIVE SOVEREIGNTY in regard to preventing pregnancy through prayer; and, in situations where women were wanting to end a first trimester pregnancy in this non-violent way, I had had success working with other women in many situations.

I wanted to impart very real situations where these solutions worked and I had many witnesses that were involved enough to know about our intentions and witness the result. meaning Procreative Sovereignty had gone beyond a theory into a reality. I have been witness to and involved with many women who have been having this conversation and approach to solving this gigantic issure for women. We have spent over 8 years in deep process. It is part of our life study and comes from a deep desire to contribute from our place of prowess, sacred sexuality.

I have never met a woman who wants to abort a child. my ideal is to prevent pregnancy in this way - through non-violent prayer. The number one stumbling block to the consistent success is agreement between the man and the woman. In order for that to happen the man has to beable to communicate in a productive manner with his would be partner- as a means of reaching agreement and alignment prior to having sex. All of the women I work with are physically beautiful as well as educated and psychic. Our common problem is meeting physical peers that have developed spiritually.

The SPIRIT/BODY SPLIT is a predominant curse that is making men unapproachable in many ways BUT, we are tenacious as a group, because we have found first-hand that life without intimacy and simultaneous orgasm isn't worth all this crapola that most people put up with! people are losing the will to live in this nightmare en masse, its a dangerous environment when people start to give up on a quantum scale.

This is the main reason I wrote panGasm because it is also an invitation that one person gives another person to play the game of panGasm. It not only illustrates a new sexual ethic based upon a heart-centered language that bi-passes blame and shame to get to the real issue of good lovin in the presence of love, but, it also electromagnetically aligns a person without special tools, drugs, money or teachers; helping the people playing with each other to become energetically reciprocal. panGasm does not break any sexual taboos either. Plus, people will learn how to make drugs using their own chemistry - THE BEST DRUGS ON THE PLANET THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY!!!!!

I wrote it for my childrens would be partners and their generation. The indigo children are too evolved to fall for the current sexual ethic and need this simple information ASAP in order to break out of the paradox that is creating hell on earth. It is time, they are here and coming of age. They need panGasm yesterday.

All of us old folgies that are capable of bumping up our own evoutionary latter (the DNA spiral is the stairway to heaven) can benefit by learning from these children about real integrity mentally, emotionally, physically and spiritually.

Each of us has our own little cage that is a work of self-destructive art, we can undo this black magic by simply aligning North, South, East and West to live with the incarnate body we created indefinately. I call it 'Undus Mundus' - Latin for the 'divne inner marriage'. We don't even need partners to play the game with, in order to benefit, but it is oh so much more fun to play with others.

I am offering 10% of any income that comes to me from this to anyone that finds me a bonafide producer/publisher to get the ball rolling. then I will do radio to really work up a ruckus with both the left and the right. Even though I have never had phone sex for money, I want the radio show to be much like a person is having phone sex when they talk to pandora and each caller must also be prepared for Medusa too!

My life is the most fun it has ever been today because I have always had faith that there were reasonable answers for this sorry mess we find ourselves in together. Women have the power to do this through their agreement, men will naturally follow because they are tired to the bone of the war women have been blaming on them. homosexuals will inevitably feel left out - but they already do on many levels. panGasm does not exclude any consensual adult from benefitting though.

I am an unwitting evangelist - hope you uderstand a little more about what I am advocating.

2613 days ago
80.

pandora    

Hi Ed, I didn't see your post before putting up this last one. I would love to respond to such a reasonable question.

2613 days ago
81.

pandora    

hey Ed, I don't mean to play rough. thanks for bearing with me.

When any person whole-heartedly adopts death as their only means of spiritual transformation then their matrix of light and life subverts itself in a polarizing self-destructive linear paradox. The indoctrination process of death happens no matter what spiritual sophistry the individual attributes to this cycle of violence, that is verified by the animal kingdom in stunning grusomeness.

Christianity shares a common language that is based upon an angry god that sacrifices his only son in order to forgive humanity for 'The Fall of Man' or "Original Sin" that goes back to Adam and Eve. AND, you have only heard one side of the story about Original Sin. I know this same story from the vantage point of the hated demonic force that was part of the Pentacostal Battle in the Heavens, and waging itself out on Earth. It still is.

As the 'She Devil' that was present, you have not yet heard my side of the story. That's why I am here now. I'm tired of being silent and ready to speak out about the real nature of this war. So bear with me - i speak from a perspective that is very alien yet neccessary to stop the pendulum from wreaking anymore havoc upon the lives of men, women and children. Plus, I refuse to lower myself to any form of false humility, because I am not humble.

2613 days ago
82.

pandora    

As far as the pornography goes Ed, i dislike it and feel as though it is forcing a few generations to approach sexuality from a crass and heartless place. And, if it were not for the heartlessness punching you in the face, you would not converse with the likes of me, unless of course I was a goooood christian girl full of false humility. If the approach christianity was taking were working, you would be in church blessing the cross. Since it is not making the situation better, in fact creating a counterpoint to its patriarchal daddy complex, you are willing to converse with the Whore of Babylon in the open (well, sort of)

2613 days ago
83.

Party 'till you die!    

Pandora, funny you should mention 'Indigo Children' as a very intelligent and spiritual friend of my mom said that I was, indeed, Indigo in nature. I had forgotten about this until I saw one of your previous links to that page. I do seem to fit the profile to a large degree, but I need to take a further look at everything. Looks interesting!
Not really wanting to get into sex here, but my philosophy is that sex is very liberating when people know full well what is really going on between them. As a man, 'finishing' is Never a problem, so I have focused on developing a mentality that focuses on women's needs above my own, initially, but when all is said and done, it is Very Mutual! i won't go into further detail as Lenny might have some violent episodes of sickness and repulsion. I think you get what I am saying. I was just a bit confused when it somewhat appeared that you were saying that you had a Universal Idea that worked for 100% of everyone. I just get concerned when anyone says they know anything 100%- I'm an agnostic, that's why. I understand that you are not saying the 100% theory, but see that you are merely trying to introduce a new way of looking at sex. Anything that works to understand the differences between men and women is Cool w/ me. Thanks for responding to the question tho! I'm just about to drop a little love on the people who think the Founding Fathers were pro-religion. Then I need to feed and walk my buddy's dog while he chills in Tuscon w/ his hot and beautiful GF. Luckily, I have found that doves don't work very well on leashes, so I'm not worried about them. I'll drop this, walk the dog, eat, play w/ my squabs, and wil shortly return. Hope you had a good day in Paradise! Mahalo!

2613 days ago
84.

Party 'till you die!    

Oh, here's some info on the Founding Fathers. They were FOR the Separation of Church and state. Kinda hard to call this a Christian based nation when so many of our founders were not oriented to that church. Here's history:

-John Adams, U.S. President, Founding Father of the United States

"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days?"

"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it."
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James Madison, American president and political theorist (1751-1836).
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, Famous Atheist & Quotessuperstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."

"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."
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During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution."
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed myself from Christian assemblies."

"Lighthouses are more helpful then churches."

-Benjamin Franklin, American Founding Father, author, and inventor
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"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors." ..Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
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Sorry if it's mixed up a bit from my sloppy drop and drag posting, but anyone who argues that our nation is meant to have a 'Church state' are not very aware of history. Adams, Franklin, Jefferson, Madison, and these were not the only ones. It must be nice to be able to recreate history as you need as done by many ( all?) religions. After all, Real Science, independent Creative Thinking, and history are pretty much ignored and even banished by the hard core followers. You simply can't allow people to think for themselves, because it threatens what the church says. People might actually think for themselves and figure out a few things!

2613 days ago
85.

pandora    

Dear Seeks Peace,
We can discuss these issues without ever getting into a conversation about sexual techniques. I'm capable of keeping it in the province of principle because panGasm is not a sexual technique. It is an entirely sexual game that does not involve the genitals for either player. Therefore no sexual rules need get breached. I am very careful not to create more shame for the poor guilt-ridden masses. panGasm helps people purge this anti-life form of nothingness from their energetic matrix through sound and emotional movement. It is the most fun a person can have without engaging in sex - oral or otherwise.

2613 days ago
86.

ED    

That's an interesting perspective Pandora. It's not the one I've learned through my studies though. I certainly see where one can come to these conclusions based on so much self righteousness among those who call themselves Christians. That's the problem though. Anyone can call themself a Christian, and Christianity doesn't turn anyone away. How can we sort out the liars?

I read that I will know them by what is produced from their actions. We see an excellent example in Steve_c. He attacks from bitterness, though he denies it, and we know that this is irrational. So we cannot trust ,so much, any of his reasoning on most issues. I think he has a bone to pick with God and the church. Otherwise why would it be so important to him to disprove the "easter bunny" as he puts it. He seems most zealous in this, yet he quickly backs off if you point it out.

I'll explain my understanding of what Christianity tells me about God. He is not "angry" and He did not sacrifice His "only" son, just His only begotten one. Who, by the way, was a willing sacrifice. That the original sin was that of "disobedience" on the part of Adam. I have told my children not to touch something that's hot. When they do then there comes the natural result of pain. I didn't want them to feel the pain, but they disobeyed me as Adam did his own Father. If I could have I would rather taken the pain upon myself because, even though they disobeyed, I still love them. The sacrifice came from love. Will anyone today offer his life for another when that other person is in the wrong. The message throughout the Bible is love and if any so called Christian misses that message then it is with them that the fault lies.

Even your belief of panGasm, if it catches on, will have followers. If one or more of those followers corrupts it and does someone harm in its name, then you will know what I mean, for the world will blame you all and condemn all who bear the same name.

The Whore of Babylon, to my understanding, is the great false church. I don't believe you are anywhere close to being capable of the evil that will spring from her. You know, the Bible is where we get these "stories" if you will, and even if they are fiction, we have to stick to the text. Tom Sawyer was not a rich lawyer from New York. The great Whore is what it is, and I will talk to the likes of you anytime. my church wouldn't have it any other way.

I'm not sure what the heartlessness is that's punching me in the face, and if I were permitted only to talk to good Christian girls, I might not be talking much. I think I'll talk to whomever I please.

2613 days ago
87.

pandora    

Ed, can you believe that this site jerry started is still in existence? I think this conversation is very representational of the american macrocosm in many ways. Most of us are old enough to realize that talking about politics in a bar is safe; talking about religion is somewhat safe; but, talking about politics and religion is dangerous; on top of that, mixing those two up with sex is deadly! What are we gonna do? its in our face!

When one studies the connection of pedophilia to pornography, then they are beginning to head down a path to solutions for a widely suffered phenomenon. Such a large percentage of our male gay population was sexually molested and almost all lesbianism is sourced from sexual child abuse as well. Pornography is not the cause, it is one of the symptoms the same as substance addiction - give me a big mac and a fudgsickle! Perversion, like obesity and immaciation are symptoms of the very same disease - guilt.

I am not saying guilt is an entirely bad thing, because it is very effective about killing that which harbors it chronically. this is justice in action. but, what about the sociopath that feels nothing - like the school place assassins? panGasm makes sense of this as well as the ancient war that is in its end days here on Earth. We will see those who have committed evil in the name of evil AND we will recognize those who have committed evil in the name of love. Either way you approach it, the word to identify the imbalance is evil - the word 'Live' spelled backwards. Indicating that the 'evildoer' has already given up on life on some level.

2613 days ago
88.

married with children    

I used to think that down deep everyone had some level of good. Imagine when I finally opened up my eyes and realized that some people are just plain evil through and through. No good in them at all.

2613 days ago
89.

pandora    

Ed, I was referring to punched in the face with rampant pornography, incest, homosexuality, drug abuse, crime, medical nightmares, looming wars and degraded environment all rolled into one by the Earh Changes. Mother is in an intensive labor to birth a new atmosphere that levels the playing field of all that lacks integrity. In my not so humble opinion.

2613 days ago
90.

ED    

Seeks Peace
I read your post and there seems to be a contradiction of thought by these men for they have also made statements to the contrary. In the 1779 draft for the bill establishing religious freedom Thomas Jefferson said "Almighty God created the mind free". In the Declaration of Independence itself he wrote that "....all men are 'created' equal", and that these rights were "endowed by their creator".

John Adams, when writing the Massachussetts Constitution, that predates our national one (that he also is credited with) by ten years, wrote that the "happiness of the people and the good order and preservation of civil government essentially depend upon religion and morality". He also called for the support of Protestant teachers of piety, religion and morality. Look it up and read for yourself.

There is no line in any of the documents that read, word for word, "separation of church and state", but only that government should not pass laws respecting a certain denomination over others, in effect, a national church as that of England. This is not a Christian nation per se, but it was founded on the Judeo-Christian ethic.

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