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Jacko's Kids: Let Us Pray

7/15/2009 3:40 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

A week after speaking at her father's memorial, Paris Jackson (left) with older brother Michael Jr. (right) were spotted entering a Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall on Tuesday.

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871.

missblyden    

In response to Christian sister. You are correct we should not argue with people. My response was based on 1 Peter 3:15
“Sanctify the Christ as Lord in your hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for the hope in you, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect

1732 days ago
872.

missblyden    

CJ you fail to understand that the JW organization always opens dialogue with government officials worldwide whenever persecution arises. It is the bible command to respect government leaders. Romans 13: 1,2 Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God. 2 Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.

But they never compromise their faith and loyalty to their God. Acts 5:27 in part; “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. History has shown that this method works..


1732 days ago
873.

missblyden    

In response to Phd: JW's no independent thought....so God and the bible are outdated and that is why the world is in such wonderful shape? No, it is a ball of confusion. Nothing happening today is a surprise to me since I have been reading the bible since 5 years of age. If man can make laws we must live by, God surely can. None of us can save ourselves, JW's realize that they depend on the maker of the universe. We are so small and insignificant compared to Him but yet he loves us. What a concept. To have hope for a better future not based on the limited term or lifetime of a man.

1732 days ago
874.

missblyden    

To mj4ever: Joe Jackson has never been one of Jehovah's Witnesses. therefore, he is not subject to counsel of the elders. Also the exaggerated reports in the media about Michael Jackson have been denied and clarified by members of the Jackson family. Without Joe Jackson there would have been no Michael. He should be respected as the family head. Let this family grieve in peace. They are hurting enough with bringing up old stories. It is very painful to lose a sibling or any family member. Give them their dignity. Everytime Michael was in trouble Joe Jackson was seen with him. Seemed he was doing his job as a father unconditionally.

1732 days ago
875.

pieface    

If you really use your BRAIN michael knew his mother was an Jehovah Witness if thats not what he wanted he would not have sent them thier in his will, i always notice if it was any other religion like baptist or catholic you people never say anything about them but soon as JW name appears you have something to say I have friends that are JW thier children have everything they need probabiy more then your children .anyway even the news saw how they will be loved by thier family Those people JW give thier children parties all thie time I love you parties, Princess parties and all they never seem like a cult to me .if that is the case all religions are and besides that they don't baptize thier children like religions do .thier children have to decide that for themseleves when they get older so they do make thier decision right now they go where thier parents go just like your family does . no more comments for me take it like it is . This goes out to my friends one day I will join yall keep the faith

1732 days ago
876.

stalkers are scum    

I don't think this debate really matters, because first and foremost, Katherine Jackson is just too old to have the kids. Diana Ross is just too to have the kids. (Sorry, ladies, but you are!) Like most celebrities, seems Michael Jackson left his will a hot mess. I hope Debbie Rowe does not get the kids either. It will probably be left to a judge, who will respect the desires of the children. The way it looks, they probably would prefer Janet Jackson the best.

1732 days ago
877.

missblyden    

In reply to DONT BE FOOLED. FYI, the Jackson family has been followed to the Kingdom Hall by the media for many years. Reporters have even come into the meetings and been welcomed by the elders. Though reporters would have been required to be observers only. and not create commotion. The Jackson family have patiently tolerated the media and Michael was said to actually have been nice to the paparazzi. So it is not a PR campaign. Katherine would not jeopardize her standing with her GOD.

1731 days ago
878.

your Christian sister    

So to all the haters of witnesses, did you all see that according to TMZ, Rebbie, who has been serving Jehovah for years, may be raising the children. And did you see, it is stated, THEY ALL ADORE HER & even though the family be divide on other issues, Rebbie being in their lives is NOT an issue.


Oh well, now what?

1731 days ago
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duh!~    

I made a SERIOUS typo on my previous post..I DID NOT MEAN TO SAY . "It's like the religious leaders back in Jesus time when she said........" I meant when HE said...I am so sorry for the mistake...I do not think Jesus is a woman!!!!

1731 days ago
880.

duh!~    

You know to be honest maybe Michael left his children with his Mother in spite of her Faith. Let's face it and if a Witness has a different perspective please share but Katherine isn't exactly that devoted to her Faith. She communicated, supported stood by stood up for her disassociated son. In the Witness faith you are to have as little to do with a disassociated one as possible. If you could go thru life not talking to them it would be for the best in that religion. However she stood up for him in interviews, went to court with him every day, stood by her children and supported their 'worldly pursuits' encouraged them to continue in it etc etc etc. Nothing that ANY Jehovah Witness that I have ever met would do. I can't imagine any of them supporting a disassociated member unless they had to. It's a disfellowshipping offense. So maybe Michael knew his Mother knew how to love her children IN SPITE of her religion and that she wasn't like them. Obviously her children did not turn out to be model Jehovah Witnesses, far from it and she has no problem with them, even the disassociated/disfellowshipped ones.

What I can't figure out is why SHE isn't disfellowshipped??????? I mean honest to pete if a witness did that where I live they would be out. I can't imagine any witness I know going to court every day to support their child if they being shunned. And I can't imagine any witness having an interdenominational funeral like the one Michael Jackson had, she was front and center, right there in the middle of it. Any Witness I know would be disfellowshipped for that!!!!

So her money has obviously bought her a 'pass' in the faith and she doesn't really live by what it teaches so maybe that is why Michael felt comfortable leaving the kids with her. He knew she wasn't like the majority of Jehovah Witnesses.

1731 days ago
881.

missblyden    

In reply to thinking person, to answer your question. MJ may have stayed at
home with his parents it seemed for few years after he
disassociated himself. Therefore, his family could deal with him as
necessary, but not on spiritual matters. Family members can
communicate with disfellowshipped family members that do not live at
home, but only when necessary. His mother may have felt that with
his serious problems, it was necessary.

Some have stated that MJ was attempting to return as a JW at times,
for instance attending the Kingdom Hall during his trial, for
example. In that case the elders would have given him spritual
guidance. No JW would be disfellowshipped for associating with a
disfellowshipped person. They would be counseled by the elders to
correct them. Otherwise, they might in the end be judged by God for
not heeding bible admonition.

Disfellowshipping was a practice of first century christians for
unrepentant ones. 1 Corinthians 5:11, to help a person see the need
to repent. But no one is disfellowshipped if they are truly
repentant of their sin. Their privledges would be restricted for
some time. Disfellowshipped persons that do repent are allowed back
in good standing. 2 Corinthians 2: 5-10.

Be assured his mother receives no special treatment for who she is.
Just as Michael received no special treatment when he was a witness.
That would be idolatry. Her money has no bearing on the matter. 1 Tim 3:8
(not for dishonest gain) JW's do not tithe since we are not under the Law. Colossians 2:14
Willingly give what they wish privately,

Attending non -witness funerals are a matter of conscience for each JW.
Romans 14:4 His mother and sister did not participate in the ceremony
nor did they speak, they were observers. 2 Corinthians 6: 14-17
Perhaps the services at Forest Lawn was done the way his mother
wanted. The Jackson family is a religiously divided household. Perhaps that
is why the memorial was interfaith.

1731 days ago
882.

stalkers are scum    

^ Sweet, considering Michael supported her azz & all the rest of the bunch.

1731 days ago
883.

gtown    

It's better for the kids to go to a JW Kingdom Hall than to go to a Catholic Church and get molested by some priest.Catholics sure do get defensive about their perverted,sick priest.Why do soo many people criticzize JW's when they promote good things:No sex before marriage,no homosexuality,stay away from drugs,respect your parents.What is so bad about those things?..Maybe we should all be like Catholics and support sick,perverted priest who continue to molest little kids,and support abortions and,we should all go out on the weekend and party,have sex with several different partners,take some drugs,get drunk and then go to a church on Sunday for about an hour and ask for forgiveness and forget about GOD till next Sunday.People are soo ignorant,look up the orgins up Christmas,Easter,,,even the Popes Hat is a joke,the CROSS,just look up the orgins.I know eveyone reading this can look these things up,I mean your looking at TMZ..com,so you know how to use a computer.

1731 days ago
884.

missblyden    

Scriptural support that we must accept Jesus and his Father Jehovah for salvation . And that the JW organization is refined from within.

(John 5:19-24) 19 Therefore, in answer, Jesus went on to say to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20 For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, in order that YOU may marvel. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead up and makes them alive, so the Son also makes those alive whom he wants to. 22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has committed all the judging to the Son, 23 in order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. 24 Most truly I say to YOU, He that hears my word and believes him that sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.

(John 5:43-47) 43 I have come in the name of my Father, but YOU do not receive me; if someone else arrived in his own name, YOU would receive that one. 44 How can YOU believe, when YOU are accepting glory from one another and YOU are not seeking the glory that is from the only God? 45 Do not think that I will accuse YOU to the Father; there is one that accuses YOU, Moses, in whom YOU have put YOUR hope. 46 In fact, if YOU believed Moses YOU would believe me, for that one wrote about me. 47 But if YOU do not believe the writings of that one, how will YOU believe my sayings?”

(John 14:28-31) 28 YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. 29 So now I have told YOU before it occurs, in order that, when it does occur, YOU may believe. 30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me, 31 but, in order for the world to know that I love the Father, even as the Father has given me commandment [to do], so I am doing. Get up, let us go from here.

(1 Corinthians 8:5-6) 5 For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.

Philipians 2:5 (KJ) 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

(John 15:11-16) 11 “These things I have spoken to YOU, that my joy may be in YOU and YOUR joy may be made full. 12 This is my commandment, that YOU love one another just as I have loved YOU. 13 No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his soul in behalf of his friends. 14 YOU are my friends if YOU do what I am commanding YOU. 15 I no longer call YOU slaves, because a slave does not know what his master does. But I have called YOU friends, because all the things I have heard from my Father I have made known to YOU.
16 YOU did not choose me, but I chose YOU, and I appointed YOU to go on and keep bearing fruit and that YOUR fruit should remain; in order that no matter what YOU ask the Father in my name he might give it to YOU.

Refinement:

(Proverbs 4:17-19) . . .. 18 But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established. 19 The way of the wicked ones is like the gloom; they have not known at what they keep stumbling.

(Philippians 1:9-11) 9 And this is what I continue praying, that YOUR love may abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment; 10 that YOU may make sure of the more important things, so that YOU may be flawless and not be stumbling others up to the day of Christ, 11 and may be filled with righteous fruit, which is through Jesus Christ, to God’s glory and praise.

(1 Thessalonians 5:18-22) . . .For this is the will of God in union with Christ Jesus respecting YOU. 19 Do not put out the fire of the spirit. 20 Do not treat prophesyings with contempt. 21 Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 22 Abstain from every form of wickedness.


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885.

missblyden    

Comment to: Do The Research: If you are a witness remember that an answer when mild turns away rage. People are watching our behavior. We must reflect the God we serve and His Son. Even when it is not easy.

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