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People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray

Murray's Former Patients:

He's the Best Doc Ever

10/26/2011 7:20 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Dr. Murray's Former Patients Testify
Updated 10/26/11 at 9:00 AM
The defense is trying to make the case ... Dr. Conrad Murray is a great doctor with a pristine reputation -- and to prove their point, they're calling several of Murray's former patients to the stand ... each with glowing reviews.

First up ... a heart attack patient named Gerry Causey -- who told the jury, Murray saved his life. Causey said Murray is "the best doctor" he's ever had.

Interestingly, Causey told jurors he didn't want to be sedated during the operation because he was too scared ... so Murray didn't put him under.

He also said Murray took great care in explaining everything he was doing.

Prosecutors made sure to point out -- Murray's treatment was done in a monitored environment with the help of a large staff.

0104_break_mj Patient # 2 -- Andrew Guest
Updated 10/26/11 at 9:15 AM

1025_Andrew_Guest_MJtrialPatient #2 Andrew Guest said Dr. Conrad Murray performed 2 different procedures on his heart in 2002 -- telling jurors, "That man sitting there is the best doctor I’ve ever seen."

Guest said Murray often called him on weekends to check up on him.

During cross-examination, lead prosecutor David Walgren asked Guest, "I don't mean to be flip ... but  he never give you Propofol in your bedroom did he?"

Guest shot back, "I am alive today because of that man."

Patient # 3 -- Lunette Sampson
Updated 10/26/11 at 9:35 AM

1025_Lunette_Sampson_MJtrialLunette Sampson -- who suffered 3 heart attacks in 2008 and 2009 -- told the jury Murray saved her life, fixing another doctor's botched operation.

During cross examination, Walgren suggested Murray was able to fix Sampson's heart because he had access to her medical records ... a privilege Murray never afforded the ER doctors, who scrambled to save Michael Jackson's life.

Patient # 4 -- Dennis Hix
Updated 10/26/11 at 9:50 AM

1025_Dennis_hicks_MJtrialDennis Hix testified Dr. Murray placed about 13 stints in his heart ...  for free.

Hix said Dr. Murray also operated on his brother's heart free of charge ... telling jurors, "I’m 66.  I've gone to a lot of doctors, A LOT of doctors, and I’ve never had one who gave me the care he did."

Patient # 5 -- Ruby Mosley
Updated 10/26/11 at 10:20 AM

1025_Ruby_Mosely_MJtrialRoby Mosley told jurors Dr. Murray couldn't have been greedy because he opened up a clinic in one of Houston's poorest neighborhoods in honor of his father.

Murray fought back tears as Mosley described how he selflessly treated patients who couldn't afford his care.


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Katherine Jackson May Not Be In LA For Dr. Conrad Murray VerdictKatherine Jackson May Not Be In LA For Dr. Conrad Murray Verdict
Posted on Oct 26, 2011 @ 03:00PM print it send it
Splash NewsBy Jen Heger - Radar Legal Editor

Katherine Jackson probably won't be in Los Angeles when a verdict is announced in the Dr. Conrad Murray case, is exclusively reporting.

Michael Jackson's powerhouse attorney, Tom Mesereau told us during Radar Live on Wednesday, that he was going to be with the Jackson family matriarch in London next week for the premiere of a do***entary about the King of Pop's life.

"I will be with Katherine in London next week with my law firm partner Susan Yu, Katherine, Tito, Rebbie, we are going to be in London for the premiere of David Gest's brilliant and wonderful do***entary about the life of Michael Jackson. It's called Michael Jackson: The Life of An Icon and we will all be there for that premiere, so we will probably be in London when there is a verdict," Mesereau said.

PHOTOS: Key Players In The Trial Of Dr. Conrad Murray

"I went to a private premiere of his film, a private screening, of his film a few months ago in Los Angeles at Universal Studios and it's one of the most brilliant, kindest, most sensitive do***entaries about Michael Jackson ever and when I went to see it I was wondering if it was going to be new material or had I seen everything, and I was so moved by this wonderful do***entary. It goes through Michael's ups and downs...I'm glad Katherine will be there for the premiere because it's a very positive piece about a brilliant, wonderful, kindhearted human being that all of us loved," Tom asserts.

Watch The Trailer of Michael Jackson: The Life Of An Icon

Mesereau successfully represented Michael Jackson during his 2005 molestation trial in Santa Maria, California. The do***entary will cover the ups and downs of the singer’s complex life, and include interviews with Katherine Jackson, Tito and Rebbie.

PHOTOS: The Jackson Family Arrives To Dr. Conrad Murray’s Trial

Dr. Conrad Murray's defense is expected to wrap up it's case by Friday, and final arguments could be heard on Monday.

As previously reported, Murray broke down in tears as his best friend and patient testified on his behalf on Wednesday morning.

If convicted of the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson, Dr. Murray could face up to four years in state prison.

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson Through The Years

You can watch the trial live, here, on

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He can cry along with the rest of us that lost our King Of Pop! Anyway you look at it, he was there at the end of MJ's life and was not at all careful how he treated or watched over him being under such a powerful drug! He paid he more than enough to hire a nurse to assist him & assure he could be watched entirely.

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LOL how does any of this excuse giving someone endless amounts of Propofol for a purpose it wasn't meant for? Or not even having paddles around when you know what the stuff can do to people? This guy deserves at least a decade in prison. Reckless in the extreme. He robbed a family and a nation of someone precious, someone who was about to be on the side of the 99%. Let him boo-hoo in prison for a while and remember those screaming kids who watched their beloved dad slip away in front of them. That's the price you pay as a doctor who's so star struck he's willing to go along with whatever his patient asks, even when you know how wrong and terrible what you're doing is.

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Michael Jackson Tops List Of Forbes Top Earning Dead CelebritiesMichael Jackson Tops List Of Forbes Top Earning Dead Celebrities
Posted on Oct 26, 2011 @ 12:00PM print it send it
WENNBy Radar Staff

Michael Jackson has been named the highest-earning dead celebrity of the past year.

The late Thriller hitmaker - who died in June 2009 aged 50 - has topped Forbes' annual list of the Top Earning Dead Celebrities for the second consecutive year after his estate brought in $170 million between October 2010 and October 2011 from sales of his music and his stake in the Sony/ATV catalog.

The estate of the Beat It singer - whose earnings dropped from $275 million 12 months ago - is set to take half of the profits from the Cirque du Soleil theatrical production Michael Jackson: The Immortal World Tour, which started earlier this month.

PHOTOS: Michael Jackson Through The Years

Elvis Presley's Cirque du Soleil show Viva Elvis helped him to second on the list with a posthumous fortune of $55 million in the past year, and the estates of Beatles legends John Lennon and George Harrison - who placed fifth and 13th respectively - also benefited from similar productions.

Dame Elizabeth Taylor - who died in March - made her debut in the list, appearing in joint fifth after making $12 million, while the late actress' estate will earn more money this year when her jewels, artwork and gowns go up for auction on December 16.

PHOTOS: Stage Shots of Michael Jackson Performing

Iconic actress Marilyn Monroe placed third on the list, while Peanuts creator Charles Schulz was ranked fourth.

Full list of Forbes Top Earning Dead Celebrities:

1. Michael Jackson - $170 million

2. Elvis Presley - $55 million

3. Marilyn Monroe - $27 million

4. Charles Schulz - $25 million

5. John Lennon - $12 million

5. Elizabeth Taylor - $12 million

7. Albert Einstein - $10 million

8. Theodor Geisel - $9 million

9. Jimi Hendrix - $7 million

9. Stieg Larsson - $7 million

9. Steve McQueen - $7 million

9. Richard Rodgers - $7 million

13. George Harrison - $6 million

13. Bettie Page - $6 million

13. Andy Warhol - $6 million

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Roby Mosley told jurors Dr. Murray couldn't have been greedy because he opened up a clinic in one of Houston's poorest neighborhoods in honor of his father.

Murray fought back tears as Mosley described how he selflessly treated patients who couldn't afford his care.

Government grants, tax write-offs and fraudulent medicaid billing. You can't be serious thinking murray has done anything for anyone that did not benefit him personally?(jmo). If murray provided treatment for this crowd, it was done in the proper setting with the proper equipment and qualified staff. That's the primary reason this cast & crew survived conrad murray.....or they're all a bunch of liars and murray doesn't have a clue who these terrible actors are...

Therefore,unless Murray treated this group in their home(s) with diazepam (Valium), lorazepam (Ativan) and midazolam (Versed) and Propofol during a 10-hour period throughout the night and morning, without proper equipment, without staff to monitor them; and they all walked away with their full perceptual powers of the mind ...

...........Their Statements are M-O-O-T!!!

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Conrad Murray walked around free for over two years gloating by the pool in malignant pleasure, complete with shopping speers, and photo opts glalore. compliments of the he wants to tear up?????
Spare me the crocodile tears Murray. you are forever a liar and a murderer!!

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Dr.Conrad Murray    

Today was a very touching & emotional day for me,I would like to thank all my friends & supporters on TMZ, I appreciate all your love for me during this most difficult time for me.

God Bless
Dr.Conrad Murray.

mymjj5,-I would really like to spank your hot little bare black ass,contact me through my office.

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Conrad Murray trial week 2. MICHAEL JACKSON’S LAST MESSAGE TO US
October 3, 2011
tags: Dan Anderson, Detective Myers, Detective Smith, Dr. Richelle Cooper, Dr. Thao Nguyen, Elissa Fleak, Hamid Towfigh, Martin Blount, Michael Jackson's tape, Nicole Alvarez, Sade Alding, Sally Hirschberg, Stacey Ruggles, Steven Marxby vindicatemj
.Here is Michael Jackson’s dying message to the world
The fact that the message was taken on May 10, 2009 when Conrad Murray was routinely giving him propofol or something else to sleep – and was recording him at that – does not change anything.

Michael was falling asleep and that is why his voice sounds like he is passing away from us.

At moments like that people are unable to lie. They tell the truth only and speak of things which are most essential to them.

And in his dying hour Michael Jackson was speaking of the pain he was feeling for the world – for you, me, all of us – and our children who should be able to change it all.

His last thoughts were not about making millions, they were about giving them away for the biggest in the world hospital for children – which would have a game room and a movie theatre so that children don’t feel sick and depressed there.

He knew that joy for the children is their best remedy.

Before stepping into eternity he was still thinking of children’s well-being as his biggest dream. He understood them so well.

He was pure as a child. And he was talking about God.

Though I am asleep…

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Half a day has passed since the ****tering tape was played in the courtroom and its full text was uncovered to the world, but it is still not receiving even a fraction of the attention it deserves.

The media quotes only tiny pieces of the text accompanied by a heavily slanted comment or prefers to silence it altogether. No more gleeful CNN repetition of the tape every 5 minutes, no more Piers Morgan savoring his primitive and distasteful story four times a day, no more happy pundits popping up on the screen every half an hour to dirty Michael – no, everything is extremely modest, cold and meaning to imply that “it is is no longer the news”.

What is news to them is Steve Jobs’s death which serves as a pretext for forgetting about Michael Jackson’s tape. But this way they are showing us that their desire to bury Michael is so big that they are even ready to give up the golden opportunity of reporting an absolutely smashing link between these two pieces of news – I mean the iphone which was invented by Steve Jobs and the fact that it was exactly an iphone which allowed to extract Michael’s priceless recording and Murray’s correspondence with insurers and AEG on the day of Michael’s death.

The recording was retrieved at the end of July as a complete miracle – it was almost three months after the event (as it was recorded on May 10 but analyzed at the end of July) and restoring its data became possible only due to iphone’s unique possibilities of a small computer. One would think that Michael’s recording would be a perfect way to show Steve Jobs’s legacy at its best, but the media thinks different – they totally ignore this point though it is the most logical thing to speak of under the cir****tances!

When Jane Velez-Mitchell couldn’t resist expressing her natural emotion upon hearing Michael’s tape and saying what she really thought about it ( that “maybe MJ fans were right all along and this man could never hurt a child and he was never a p-le”), she was immediately restrained by Stacy Brown who tweeted her that “she didn’t do their profession a service” – which literally means that telling the truth about Michael Jackson is doing a disservice to the media.

In other words they are now openly telling us that the only right thing for the media to do about Michael Jackson is to cover him with dirt, while everything else will be a “disservice” to their profession. This is no news to Michael’s supporters and it is only the openness with which it is being revealed now to the general public which is so surprising.

At least no one will be able to say now that the media has no agenda against Michael – it has become so obvious and even glaring that it is simply impossible not to notice it.

Michael’s tape is the biggest possible news ever. He is talking to us from behind the grave and is expressing his innermost thoughts which are revealed to us at a moment when people cannot lie in principle. The media twists and cuts it, misinterprets and gives all sorts of crazy explanations to it, speculates or squeezes out only drops of information from it – in short they are doing everything which is in their power, except the simplest and easiest thing to do which is providing the full text of it.

The reason for that is because Michael’s tape is so eye-opening an experience that it is capable to ****ter within seconds the wall of lies mounted around Michael Jackson by generations of the tabloid media.

Here is the full text of it:

MJ: Elvis didn’t do it. Beatles didn’t do it. We have to be phenomenal. When people leave the show, when people leave the show, I want them to say, “I’ve never seen nothing like this in my life. Go. Go. I’ve never seen nothing like this. Go. It’s amazing. He’s the greatest entertainer in the world”. I’m taking that money, a million children, children’s hospital, the biggest in the world, Michael Jackson’s Children’s Hospital. Gonna have a movie theatre, game room. Children are depressed. The – in those hospital, no game room, no movie theatre. They’re sick because they’re depressed. Their mind is depressing them. I want to give them that. I care about them, them angels. God wants me to do it. God wants me to do it. I’m gonna do it, Conrad.

CM: I know you would.

MJ: Don’t have enough hope, no more hope. That’s the next generation that’s gonna save our planet, starting with – we’ll talk about it. United States, Europe, Prague, my babies. They walk around with no mother. They drop them off, they leave – a psychological degradation of that. They reach out to me – please take me with you.

CM: Mmnh-mmnh.

MJ: I want to do that for them.

CM: Mmnh-Mmnh.

MJ: I’m gonna do that for them. They will be remembered more than my performances. My performances will be up there helping my children and always be my dream. I love them. I love them because I didn’t have a childhood. I had no childhood. I feel their pain. I feel their hurt. I can deal with it. Heal the World, We are the World, Will You Be There, The Lost Children. These are the songs I’ve written because I hurt, you know, I hurt.

(13 seconds: silence)

CM: You okay?

(8 seconds: silence)

MJ: I am asleep.

Despite the fact that Michael’s message came to us in fragments it is still so deep and powerful that I don’t even venture to give my interpretation of it as any comment will fall short of the original.

All I can say is that those who were still in doubt as to his innocence can now safely come down on his side of the fence as under a deep sedation like that it is impossible to pretend or lie. Michael’s words were coming from the very deep of his subconscious mind and therefore expressed the very essence of his soul.

And Michael was talking about the world in general and not of his children only – he was talking about millions of children who will probably be able to save us from the state of total degradation we currently find ourselves in.

The world terribly let Michael down and he had no more hope in it, except the children and the next generation of people. He placed his last hopes in the hands of a doctor whom he evidently trusted as he shared his thoughts with him in the final moments of his conscious life. And this is what this doctor did to him.

Are we indeed hopeless?

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Day 5. September 3, 2009

This is a place to collect all information about week 2 in Conrad Murray’s trial. There is not much to write at the moment as we are still watching the testimonies. Please don’t support the tabloid media and go here for live stream of the trial:

Since there is a small break now let me first post a piece about the testimony of paramedic Martin Blount, given on day 4 of the first week which we didn’t cover earlier (now this information has been added to the first post too).

It turns out that Martin Blount not only saw some vials scattered on the floor and saw Murray putting them into a bag, but he also saw that those three vials of lidocaine were open which can mean only one thing – that Murray used them!

Lidocaine goes together with propofol as it eases its burning sensation, so if he used three vials of lidocaine how much propofol did he use then?

The quote from shows that the ratio in which Lidocaine is mixed with Propofol is 10:1. And this means that if three vials of lidocaine were found open, the amount of propofol used should be ten times as much!

Lidocaine is used to reduce pain associated with propofol injection, either mixed with propofol or preceding it as a separate injection. Mixing 20 mg of lidocaine with 200 mg of propofol is unlikely to affect the dose of propofol required for the induction of anesthesia.
“Los Angeles paramedic Martin Blount — who was among the responders to the 9/11 call on the day of Michael Jackson’s death — testified at the involuntary manslaughter of Dr. Conrad Murray on Friday that there were three open vials of the anesthetic lidocaine in Michael Jackson’s bedroom when they arrived at the scene.

Blount described how the vials were scattered on the floor of the room. He also testified that, when asked by fellow paramedic Richard Senneff about drugs that he administered to Jackson, he made mo mention of lidocaine.

Blount also testified that he saw Murray scoop up three of the bottles and put them into a black bag as they prepared to transport to the hospital.

According to Blount’s testimony, Murray was in a hectic state as emergency responders arrived in the bedroom.

“He was a little flustered; he was sweating profusely and he was agitated,” Blount told the court.

Blount described Jackson’s eyes as “fixed and dilated” when paramedics arrived.

“I felt he was dead, ma’am,” Blount told the prosecutor.

According to Blount, Murray made a phone call in the ambulance as they transported Jackson to the hospital at UCLA.

“It’s about Michael, and it doesn’t look good,” Blount recalled Murray saying.

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Do, did or were any of these "former patients" ever diagnosed with Vitiligo, Pluresy, Lupus, or suffered 2nd/3rd degree burns????? How about insomnia???? I'm hearing heart attack but nothing about Vitiligo, Pluresy, Lupus, 2nd/3rd degree burns or Insomnia.......

Yet the defense wants to compare their health and level of care to the total failure of proper treatment for Michael Jackson?????

Is this farce of a trail near the end? I don't blame Mrs. Jackson if she's not there for the reading of the verdict. This trial is nothing short of disdainful.
Yet for some reason, I know she'll hold her head high and where grace on her sleeve as always throughout her adult life.

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Another piece of news which we totally overlooked last week is a statement made by a former Deputy DA Hamid Towfigh who had an absolutely killing argument against the Defense theory – that MJ supposedly self-administered propofol.

Please watch the video of Jane Velez-Mitchell talking to Hamid Towfigh:

It is also interesting that what Hamid Towfigh says is very much in line with Martin Blount’s testimony about the three open vials of lidocaine. Here is my transcript of Hamid Towfigh’s words (please correct the mistakes if any):

Towfigh: In their opening statement of the defense they are telling us if their theory was based on self-injection or self-ingestion by swallowing the propofol. That’s very interesting. But under both reasons they’ll fail.

First of all propofol or deprivan is only vial available [ ] .. if you swallow propofol it will not cause the reaction of death. That’s in the medical literature, you can ask Dr. Sanjay Gupta about this.

Velez-Mitchell: What about Michael Jackson somehow making an injection or opening the drug?

Towhigh: This is not possible, because according to the Coroner’s report Michael Jackson had a general anesthesia level of propofol in his blood. If you ask anesthesiologists they’ll tell you it is about 200mg or higher of propofol. The syringes that were in the room of Michael Jackson were 10cc syringes which is the equivalent of 100mg. That means that he would have had to inject himself twice — 200 mg of propofol to get the levels that the coroners said he had.

That is not possible, because after the first dose that Michael Jackson supposedly gave himself, he would have passed out.

And besides propofol is a very painful drug. That’s why they mix it with lidocaine. Michael Jackson had lidocaine in his system. They mix propofol with it because when it goes into your body it’s very painful. So had Michael Jackson self-administered this (which he didn’t) he would have screamed [ ] and Conrad Murray would have heard him in the other room.

Velez-Mitchell: I think that what you are saying is brilliant. [ ] He had so much propofol in his system according to the autopsy report that it was enough for major surgery. He would have had to use two bottles [in a shot, drip or whatever]. And at the time of administering the first one he would have been knocked out so that he couldn’t have been awake to administer the second one. Is that what you are saying?

Towfigh: Exactly.

Velez-Mitchell: Wow!

Wow indeed! What a killing argument!

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Now it is time to go on with the trial. For anyone who couldn’*****ch the testimonies on line here is an excellent blog called JustMeSTKK’s Channel (recommended to us by Deborah Ffrench, thank you) which makes daily recordings of the trial proceedings: The channel is doing a great job and has been added to our blogroll for easier access.

Dr. Richelle Cooper‘s testimony started on day 4 and proceeded on day 5 of the trial. Here are the first reviews:

Dr. Conrad Murray Trial Continues With ER Doctor Testimony

Posted by: Laura Vess

The Dr. Conrad Murray trial continued on Monday with testimony from ER doctor Richelle Cooper about pop superstar Michael Jackson‘s death. Cooper testified in court on Friday that Dr. Conrad Murray never told hospital staff he had given Michael Jackson a dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol before the singer went into cardiac arrest.

Dr. Richelle Cooper, who was part of the team that attempted to resuscitate Michael Jackson at the Ronald Reagon UCLA Medical Center, said Murray only told her he had given Jackson two small doses of the sedative lorazepam. She said that Murray made no mention that he had been dosing Michael Jackson with propofol for several months to help him sleep.

According to her testimony, Dr. Cooper claims she gave paramedics permission to declare Michael Jackson dead at his mansion, but Dr. Conrad Murray insisted the singer be taken to the hospital for additional resuscitation efforts. A paramedic at the scene previously testified they believed Jackson was dead for at least 20 minutes before emergency personnel arrived on scene.

When Michael Jackson arrived at UCLA Medical Center, Dr. Cooper said her “assesment when he arrived was that he was clinically dead.”

The Death of Michael Jackson: Conrad Murray Trial Week 2

Dr. Conrad Murray’s manslaughter trial moves into its second week this morning as prosecutors continue questioning of emergency room doctor Richelle Cooper who who pronounced Michael Jackson dead on June 25th2009. “He was clinically dead,” said Cooper during Friday’s session, “He did not have a pulse.”

Cooper was the first physician to see Jackson in the UCLA trauma room. She testified that Dr. Conrad Murray never revealed that the pop star had been treated with propofol. Her colleague, Dr. Thao Nguyen is scheduled to testify today. At a preliminary hearing in the case, Nguyen remembered how a “devastated” Conrad Murray looked in the E-R, urging her, “not to give up easily and try my best to save the patient.”

Also on today’s witness schedule: cell phone company representatives from AT&T and Sprint who will present phone records do***enting Murray’s calls the day Jackson died – including one Conrad Murray made to his friend, Sade Anding in Houston. She’s expected to testify this week that on that fateful day Murray “sounded like something was wrong. He didn’t sound like himself, to me, at all.” Earlier this year, she told GMA about the doctor’s mysterious phone call. “I heard, like, coughing like (imitates coughing) and, like, mumbling of voices. He never got back on the phone and then I hung up.”

On Friday Dr. Cooper revealed that Conrad Murray told her that he was treating the singer for dehydration and that Jackson had no history of health problems. “I asked what happened,” said Cooper of the moment when a clinically dead Jackson was wheeled into the UCLA emergency room on June 25, 2009.

“I was told that Mr. Jackson had been working very long hours and Dr. Murray thought he had been dehydrated and that he had given the patient an IV and administered 2 mg of lorazepam and later gave him [another] 2 mg and observed the patient to [cardiac] arrest,” she said.

Murray’s defense team now admits that Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of the creamy anesthetic propofol but argues that Jackson himself took an additional dose of propofol and a sedative without his doctor’s knowledge, leading to his death. Propofol is typically administered in a hospital setting.

Murray told Cooper that the only medications that Jackson took regularly were valium, an anti-anxiety medication, and Flomax, which is used to treat an enlarged prostate or someone suffering from a kidney stone.

By the time Jackson reached the emergency room, he had been in cardiac arrest for at least 40 minutes and Cooper could find no pulse, all signs of a “dying heart,” she said. Paramedics testified that Jackson appeared dead when they reached the home, indicating he could have been in cardiac arrest for a period of time before the 911 call was made by a Jackson bodyguard.

According to Cooper, Murray told her that Jackson had no history of cardiac trouble, blood clots or drug use, and hadn’t complained of chest pain or exhibited seizure activity. Cooper further told the court that she witnessed no signs of physical trauma on Jackson’s body.

Murray told Cooper he had been treating Jackson for dehydration, as he had been working long hours, according to the physician’s testimony.

Asked by prosecutors what Jackson’s condition was when he arrived at the hospital, Cooper concurred with what emergency responders had testified earlier in the day — that Jackson was already gone.

“His condition was as described by the paramedics — he was clinically dead,” Cooper testified. “He did not have a pulse … his eyes were fixed and dilated.”

According to Cooper, Jackson’s heart rhythm was “was slow and wide with no palpable pulses” — what Cooper called the “sign of a dying heart.”

Murray contends only 10 minutes elapsed between the time he found Jackson unresponsive and the time 911 was called, but prosecutors insist Murray waited at least 25 minutes before instructing another Jackson employee, Alberto Alvarez, to call 911.

Unfortunately the media does not report the testimony in detail so I will have to use my notes trying to focus on the most striking points.

Dr. Richelle Cooper says that despite all medication given to the patient and continuous CPR effort from technicians on a rotating basis – all of which lasted for an hour and 13 minutes – she had to pronounce Michael Jackson dead at 2.26 pm. It was the second time she pronounced him dead, the first being at 12.57 when the paramedics reported to her on the phone about their futile attempts to revive the patient.

Though Murray claimed he had found a pulse Dr. Cooper could never feel a spontaneous one. Spontaneous pulse is different from the one induced by compression (which they could hear) as it is the natural heartbeat, and it was this spontaneous pulse which she could never palpate.

Upon arrival at the hospital each patient is given a unique number label which marks all blood samples and specimen taken (so there is absolutely no chance that the specimen of one patient are mistaken with someone else’s).

Walgren asked Dr. Cooper if she was surprised to a see a condom catheter on the patient and she said that it seemed unusual for a 50year old male who was reportedly healthy and was coming from a home setting. However it is absolutely common to attach a collection bag for urine to a catheter during hospital procedures and surgery.

She specifically mentioned that the collection device used on MJ was empty. This is a fact which should be stuck onto Nancy Grace’s forehead as I hear she keeps saying that “he was lying in his urine”. Well, this is what Nancy Grace is all about and this is her sick fantasy which she reports as news to some gullible people – while we prefer to listen to Dr. Cooper and the exact words of Dr. Cooper are: “There was no urine in the collection bag”, which means that the patient was dry.

Dr. Cooper did not request Murray to sign a death certificate because Michael Jackson was her patient at that moment. But since she couldn’t determine the cause of death she realized it was a coroner’s case which would be referenced to a coroner’s office for autopsy and investigation.

When asked who recommended a social worker to talk to the children she said that a social worker’s involvement is a standard protocol. She personally checked on the children and found them crying. They were fairly hysterical, she said (poor kids).

Defense lawyer John Flanagan tried to imply that the doctor did not do her best because she had already pronounced the patient dead at 12.57 and knew in advance that the efforts would be futile. She disagreed saying that there was a doctor on site who said he had felt a pulse and this conflicted with the paramedics’ information, so she realized it should be her decision and her determination. Despite the fact that she pronounced Michael Jackson dead twice the actual time of his death is unknown to her.

After the paramedics reported to her the patient’s clinical death she said she allowed Dr. Murray to assume control over the patient while he was taken to the hospital (and we all know how Murray exercised that control – he was talking on the phone in the ambulance car!). When the patient arrived he was in a state of clinical death.

Definition of clinical death from Wiki:

“Clinical death is the medical term for cessation of blood circulation and breathing, the two necessary criteria to sustain life. When the heartbeat stops, a person is suffering clinical death – by definition. But consciousness is not lost until 15-20 seconds later. Most tissues and organs of the body can survive clinical death for considerable periods. Blood circulation can be stopped in the entire body below the heart for at least 30 minutes, with injury to the spinal cord being a limiting factor.[4] Detached limbs may be successfully reattached after 6 hours of no blood circulation at warm temperatures. Bone, tendon, and skin can survive as long as 8 to 12 hours.[5]
The brain, however, appears to ac***ulate ischemic injury faster than any other organ. Without special treatment after circulation is restarted, full recovery of the brain after more than 3 minutes of clinical death at normal body temperature is rare.[6][7] Usually brain damage or later brain death results after longer intervals of clinical death even if the heart is restarted and blood circulation is successfully restored. Brain injury is therefore the limiting factor for recovery from clinical death”
Dr. Cooper said that during the one hour 13 minutes resuscitation efforts she didn’t see any signs of life. “Mr. Jackson died long before he became a patient,” the doctor said.

She said she was trained to administer propofol but she uses it only as procedural anesthesia (to relieve the pain during certain procedures to make the patient comfortable) but not for general anesthesia. The amount of 25mg Murray reportedly gave to Michael Jackson was too small a dosage to achieve any level of sedation. Various factors are taken into account when deciding on the dosage – whether there were no other medications, the weight of the patient, etc.

For a 60kg man like Michael Jackson the 25mg dosage was totally insufficient. The most it would last would be 7-10 minutes. The standard dose of propofol is 1mg per 1 kg, so a 60kg patient should have 60mg as a starting dose and this would wear off in 10 minutes.

For procedural purposes propofol is given to patients to the point when they are not aware of the pain, but their breathing has not stopped yet as under general anesthesia. Additional medication like Lorazepam is a factor which should be also taken into account.

John Flanagan of the Defense introduced the idea that Dr. Cooper should have asked at what time Lorazepam had been administered by Murray. She said she made an assumption from Murray’s words that he had given Michael Jackson Lorazepam and then witnessed the heart arrest and then called 911 (so that everything happened within minutes).

When asked whether she remembered what Murray’s demeanor was she said she didn’t focus on that. When Murray arrived she asked him “What happened?” and Murray answered that Michael Jackson was working very hard and was dehydrated. ”Dr Murray reported the patient had been in his usual state of health, not ill, but had been working very hard, and he thought he may be dehydrated,” she said.

The only medication he mentioned to her was 4mg of Lorazepam (given in two portions as 2mg and 2mg) after which the patient reportedly went into arrest. This was Murray’s answer and she based her treatment on that.

Dr. Cooper asked Murray questions about prior treatment because she was interested in the best medical history – at that moment she didn’t know the reason for the cardiac arrest (which may have many causes). That is why Murray’s demeanor was not a priority for her – she was focusing on what he said. Prosecutor Walgren asked Dr. Cooper if she would have preferred to have medical records from Dr.Murray. She would, but she was also assuming that Murray was not lying to her.

She said that according to standard protocol if within 20 minutes of resuscitation effort there is no change, the patient is pronounced dead. “Would you do the same procedures for any person in the street?” asked Flanagan and she said yes.

When Flanagan asked her a dozen questions whether it was possible for the doctor to determine the condition of the patient by eye, she said that the common danger of administering propofol is a stop in breathing – and under sedation patients breathe slower, so doctors can easily miss the first signs of the problem. That is why proper equipment is required as even using a pulse oxymeter to register the problem would be too late.

This was a damning testimony

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mymjj5,-I would really like to spank your hot little bare black ass,contact me through my office.
Sorry, no defense will be found there either. Yet it's just as credible as anything else presented by the defense....


night all!

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The representatives of two telecommunications companies commented on the calls made from and to Conrad Murray’s two cell phones. They said they could tell the time and duration of the incoming and outgoing calls but couldn’t say whether it was a conversation or a voice mail or what the contents of text messages was. When a call is more than 35 sec. it is rounded to a minute. Moreover if the records say that the call lasted for 7 sec. (for example) it can mean that the call just rang for 7 seconds.

It is also impossible to identify the caller or to whom the call is being placed. However the subscriber for both cell phones is Conrad Murray.

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The second doctor who attended to Michael Jackson at the ULCA hospital was Dr. Thao Nguyen. She is a cardiologist, who was at the time a cardiology fellow at the hospital taking care of patients who were critically ill. She went to the emergency room where Dr. Cooper introduced her to Dr. Murray.

Murray introduced himself as a personal physician for Mr. Jackson. (I like all these people calling Michael Jackson Mr. Jackson. It is such a welcome change from the past, though it’d better be done it when he was alive).

Murray said to her that Mr. Jackson was very tired and asked for medication to go to sleep. He gave him intravenously 4mg of Ativan (another name for Lorazepam).

She asked him if any other narcotics or sedatives were also given. He said to her, “Nothing. Nothing else.“

She wondered when Lorazepam was given and he said he didn’t know. When she asked what happened next he said he left and when he returned Mr. Jackson was not breathing. He didn’t know the time of when this happened.

She asked how much time passed since the patient was down until the call was made to to 911. He did not remember that either. He said he didn’t have a concept of time. He didn’t have a watch.

Murray never mentioned propofol to Dr. Nguyen though she specifically asked him about other sedatives.

She called Dr. Cruise and discussed the situation with him. He came down and Murray told him that he found a pulse. Neither of them could confirm it. Murray repeated to him what he was also saying to Dr. Nguyen, that “they should not give up easily and try to save Mr. Jackson’s life“. However from the brief conversation with Dr.Murray she had her concerns over the situation – she saw what Dr. Cooper’s team was doing and the initial code (a set code of actions taken by doctors) should have already been able to resuscitate the patient, but it was not.

It wasn’t Murray who raised a request for the balloon pump to be used – it was just the next step to proceed. But she realized that their case was not that of “too little, too late”- no, it was the case of just being too late. Since Murray was not able to give her the time interval what she feared was that they were running too late.

Dr Nguyen explained what a balloon pump is. In case of a drug- induced cardiovascular collapse (when some drug caused the heart to stop) the balloon pump can be inserted into an aorta and serve as a kind of a ventilator. However they were very doubtful it would be successful at that point because it didn’t look like time was on Mr. Jackson’s side. He looked lifeless.

They did move forward with the balloon pump to show good faith even though they suspected that it was futile. The procedure of inserting the balloon went very smoothly – but as they suspected they didn’t achieve anything, it didn’t bring back life.

Before applying the balloon pump the doctors made an agreement with Murray that it would be the last attempted procedure on Mr. Jackson. Shortly thereafter Michael Jackson was pronounced dead.

John Flanagan of the Defense asked at what time she had gone down to the emergency room. It was 1.35 and she already knew that the patient was Michael Jackson as Dr. Cooper had paged her about it. Dr. Nguyen addressed Murray because he was the primary source of information. Murray said Mr. Jackson asked him for a sleeping aid to help him sleep and Murray’s exact words to Dr. Nguyen were that he had given him “Ativan, 4 mgs IV” .

He neither told her that it was given as two separate dozes nor did he mention Valium. To all her questions about sedatives he answered negatively. From his replies to her questions she had some concerns. Number one concern was that time was not on their side, number two was that it was quite uncommon to use IV for treating insomnia and the Ativan administered was not a very large doze (so it was strange that it would provoke such a reaction).

Typically 4mgs of Ativan would be enough to put the patient to sleep, especially if administered IV, she said. The usual indications for treating insomnia would be 2mg to 4 mg taken as a pill (by mouth). If 2mg were given by IV the effect would be pretty quick, working on the patient in 5 – 7 minutes. But those who are habitual users of the drug have a higher drug tolerance and it will take them longer. That is why doctors start it low and then go up until reaching the desired effect.

Generally if the patient is able to fall asleep after 2 mg of Ativan he will sleep for hours after that as the half-life of Ativan is 14 hours plus-minus 5 hours. “They won’t wake up at 1 in the morning and ask for a little bit more”, she said. People who have developed very high drug tolerance would require a higher doze with time to reach the desired effect. Unfortunately the toxicity threshold that can be tolerated by the brain, heart and lungs does not increase with the tolerance threshold, Dr. Nguyen said.

Suddenly Flanagan began taking about the 20mg doze of Ativan (which is an insinuation that MJ could take it himself). She said that 20 mg of Ativan administered by IV would be a very large doze. Ativan does not cause directly respiratory depression – it does not stop you from breathing and make your heart collapse and not pumping. What it does is working on the brain and making the brain sleepy. And that brain would be so sleepy that it would not tell the diaphragm to breathe and therefore the patient’s respiration will stop.

When Ativan is administered by IV they typically put a patient on a cardiac monitor and have a nurse watch the whole procedure.

I didn’t like Flanagan’s questions “When you do Ativan by IV the effect is very quick and when you do it orally it the effect takes longer?” which is an obvious shot against Jackson again. He also focused on things like “during that interval the patient’s speech will become slurred, won’t it”. After making sure that Ativan does have an effect on the patient’s speech Flanagan raises propofol.

Dr. Nguyen is certified to use propofol too. The sign by which she would tell that propofol took effect is when the patient would not respond to verbal stimuli (doesn’t talk any more). “So when the patient is sedated on the propofol he is not talking?” asks Flanagan. “And you never hear slurred speech from a patient under propofol, do you?” he insists.

Dr. Nguyen: “Before the success of induction you can still hear the patient talking, but after the induction you will not hear him any more”.

Flanagan: “And when he wakes up you don’t hear any slurred speech, do you?”

Dr. Nguyen: “No. Patients wake up totally refreshed and with no slurred speech as in the case of other sedatives like Ativan”.

Flanagan: “So the induction of Propofol is quick, isn’t it?”

Dr. Nguyen: “Yes, quick on-set, quick off-set.”

But then she adds a statement which Flanagan didn’t want to hear. She says: “It really depends on the dosage. Patient’s protocol is start slow every ten seconds and within minutes the patient will be ready for the procedure”.

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Let me say the following here.

“Within minutes” is a very long period in these cir****tances and it means that when propofol is being administered it is possible for the patient to still talk – in a slow manner and slurred voice which we heard in Murray’s record of Michael’s speech. The Defense is trying to show that MJ could talk like that only under the influence of another drug, Ativan or whatever, but Dr. Nguyen firmly says that it might be propofol and everything just depends on its dosage.

In fact Dr. Cooper also spoke about the use of Propofol for lesser procedures and not general anesthesia. For minor procedures propofol will not put a patient under sleep but will make him “just comfortable” - and this means that he will still be able to talk!

So in the first stages of administering propofol patients do talk and talk like Michael Jackson did in that recording made by Murray! Dr. Gershon, chief anesthesiologist of Grady Memorial Hospital, said on CNN that he hears patients talk like that every day!

This is something Flanagan didn’t want to hear so he immediately diverted everyone’s attention from that point to Murray’s demeanor and him being “devastated”.

To avoid numerous repetitions which occurred after that let me state only the main points of the remaining of Dr. Nguen’s testimony:

Murray said to Dr. Cruise that he found a pulse but didn’t say when. Dr.Nguyen thinks that Dr. Cruise didn’t ask him about the time (because everyone assumed it was “just now”)
it wasn’t Murray who asked for the balloon pump procedure but Dr. Cruise who initiated it. The balloon pump was used 5-7 min. after Dr. Nguyen had gone downstairs.
after the balloon pump failed Murray agreed to pronounce Michael Jackson dead
besides Propofol, Atrivan can also cause depression of breathing because it depresses the brain. Ativan, however, has an antidote (flumazenil)
this antidote should be close at hand. For it to be successful it should be used within 2-3 minutes. After that the window of opportunity closes. It isn’t fatal yet but is losing valuable time in terms of preparing for the next step
if the antidote did not arrive in time, they will have to do intubation
however 4mg of Ativan (Lorazepam) will not require an antidote as this dosage is not the one to make trouble.
When answering David Walgren Dr. Nguyen said that during administering propofol at least three people should be present. It should be the hospital setting and not just anywhere in the hospital but in a designated place with designated personnel and a crash cart of equipment available there.

Walgren returned to the point raised by Flanagan and asked her what she meant when she said that in these types of procedures anything can happen. He reminded her of mentioning over-sedation with Ativan. In reply she talked about both Ativan and Propofol:

“When we think of using a sedative or a narcotic we think of the desired effect to achieve, but before that we always have to think of what’s the worst-case scenario. So we always have to prepare for the worst-case scenario before we even gave the drug. Whatever the indication is – be it for procedure, be it for insomnia – before even giving drug to the patient we prepare for the worst scenario.
What is the worst scenario? Propofol can cause severe lung collapse, respiratory, breathing collapse, they could cause cardiovascular collapse, and propofol does not have an antidote, so we have to prepare for the worst before we even administer it. And that is why we take great care to get all the personnel, all the equipment ready inside the room before we even start administering it.
Walgren: So that you are prepared for any consequences?
Dr. Nguyen: Yes, it is a must.
Dr. Nguyen’s very enlightening testimony is found in part 5 and the part preceding it:

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The last doctor to testify that day was Dr. Joanne Prashad, whose testimony was actually a tribute to Murray’s very good memory. On June 25 she consulted Murray over the telephone about one of his patients and even without any medical records available to him Murray was able to recall what course of treatment the patient was undergoing and when it was to be over. She sounded impressed. Her call came at 10:22 and lasted for 2 minutes or so.

The reason why the Prosecution called her as a witness is to show that at 10:22 Murray was quietly talking on the phone and that his memory was excellent – so all that crap he told to Dr. Nguyen about not remembering anything is just a very big and intentional LIE.

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Day 6. September 4, 2011

The day started with a very short and very important testimony of Murray’s employee whose name is Stacey Ruggles. She was shown a print-out of Murray’s telephone conversations on June 25 and asked whether she spoke to him that morning. She did.

at 10.34 she called him and talked for 8 and 1/2 min. and then he called he back at 11:07
“Is the call made on 10.34 was to your telephone…?” – ”Yes”.

“And your conversation with Dr. Murray lasted for approximately 8 and a half minutes?” — “Yes”.

“And at 11:07 Dr.Murray called you back?” — – “Yes”.

“Did you speak with him?” —”I believe so”.

“I have no more questions”, said Ms. Deborah Brazil.

The reason why the prosecutor had no more questions will become clear at the end of this post which brings us to the testimony of Detective Scott on Day 9 of the trial.

On that date a tape of Murray’s interview with two detectives was played in court in which Murray gave a detailed timeline for his actions on June 25. Over there he claimed that in the period between 10.30 and 11.00 he was closely monitoring Michael . At 10.40 he began administering propofol, it took him 3 to 5 minutes to make the injection, the 25ml he gave him were enough for 15 minutes of sleep only, so at 11.00 he noticed that Michael was not breathing.

This is his version of the story which will still need to be analyzed. However whatever his motives for telling the above were, the real timeline is as follows:

she called him at 10.34 Los Angeles time and spoke to him for 8 1/2 minutes – which takes us to 10.43
and at 11:07 he called her back and it wasn’t an email or voice mail – no, they did talk to each other
and this despite that fact that according to Murray’s own timeline his patient has been lifeless already for 7 minutes or so!
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After such a discovery it is hard to proceed but I will try to.

Day 6 brought us a stream of Murray’s girlfriends – all of them young and attractive. Most of them got acquainted with him in bars and night clubs which made me wonder when this so-called doctor was working and attending to his family and children. All the girls had some kind of communication with Murray on the night of Michael’s death either by email or phone.

The girls were marvelously reported by the ABC news, so this is where I will take most of the information.

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