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Mel's Lawyers Want a Shot at Oksana's Key Witness

10/19/2010 10:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Oksana Grigorieva has enlisted a secret weapon in an attempt to strip Mel Gibson of overnight visits with their daughter, but TMZ has learned Mel won't give up that right without a fight.

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We're told Mel's attorneys have filed a request to depose Dr. Shawn McCoy, a licensed clinical social worker who specializes in child custody evaluations.

Sources tell us McCoy was hired by one of Oksana's previous lawyers -- and submitted a declaration to the court ... which said that, generally speaking, infants should not be with the father overnight when the parents are separated.

Oksana's attorneys could have a tough time convincing Judge Scott Gordon of that. We're told Mel's had one overnight visit with Lucia per week for the past several months and there have been no problems -- so his attorneys will argue that McCoy's generalization simply does not apply here.

Sources tell us yesterday Judge Gordon gave Mel's lawyers the green light for the depo.


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Kilmerfan     

And what happened to the key witness, Tony? lol


Posted at 5:30 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by Shell

He is on his honeymoon with Sailor Moon. She was under bed too

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92.

Alcamedes    

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Does anyone believe OG when she stated in the People article that she wants Mel to be part of Lucia's life?

This seems rather contradictory.

Posted at 5:35 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by fuddyduddy


Talk about credibility issues, I would laugh If Lisa stated her address to the court like this:

"Your Honor, My name is Lisa Bloom and I represent Oksana".

"Your Honor, we believe that this declaration from Dr.McCoy to the court which states that, generally speaking, infants should not be with the father overnight when the parents are separated",

"and these visits should be discontinued as my client feels they are a danger to the child".

and then of course Mel's lawyer would stand up and say: "Your Honor, Feel free to have a read of People magazine with our compliments, while you decide on this matter"

1280 days ago
93.

Swede    

Oksana also said in the People article that she wants to be friends with Mel. I dont think she knows what beeing a friend means!

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94.

fuddyduddy    

KM...I think the court will view something like this tactic of hers as parental alienation. That will go against her big time. She is looking for ways to interfere with the relationship of Mel and Lucia.

Child support...yes, we'll see how that plays out. But after all is said and done, she will end up with much, much less than what she had. Plus, she will have ruined her image in the public eye.

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fuddyduddy    

Swede...who needs friends with enemies like that?

1280 days ago
96.

fuddyduddy    

Maybe I got that turned around...who needs an enemy with a friend like that!

LOL!

I need more caffeine! Brain is in slow-mode! LOL!

1280 days ago
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little aussie reader    

Oksana also said in the People article that she wants to be friends with Mel. I dont think she knows what beeing a friend means!

Posted at 5:45 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by Swede

The only females around her are paid - nuff said.

KM...I think the court will view something like this tactic of hers as parental alienation. That will go against her big time. She is looking for ways to interfere with the relationship of Mel and Lucia.

Child support...yes, we'll see how that plays out. But after all is said and done, she will end up with much, much less than what she had. Plus, she will have ruined her image in the public eye.

Posted at 5:45 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by fuddyduddy

I have a feeling she has already ruined her "image" in the public eye. Remember, none existed pre Mel. She was no-one. Let's hope she returns to "no-one".

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98.

KM    

fuddyduddy

I went through PAS....Dr. Amy Baker is a wonderful source of info and help getting the courts to accept this as a real problem...Mel's attroneys should look her up.

1280 days ago
99.

KM    

Dr. Baker is a nationally recognized expert in parent child relationships, especially children of divorce, parental alienation syndrome, and emotional abuse of children.

Dr. Baker is available as an expert witness and for print, radio, and television interviews.

Email: AmyJLBaker@aol.com
Phone: (201) 321-9874

1280 days ago
100.

Bard59    

Another good move. Let's offend all the fathers now. Is this Dr. for real?

1280 days ago
101.

KM    

What is PAS?

Dr. Amy J.L. Baker speaks about PAS
on Good Morning America

Dr. Amy J.L. Baker speaks about PAS
on WABC TV

Dr. Baker interviewed
on WPIX TV
Parental alienation syndrome occurs when a parent emotionally manipulates a child into turning against his or her other parent, in the absence of abuse or neglect.

Dr. Amy J. L. Baker's book, "Adult children of parental alienation syndrome: Breaking the ties that bind (W.W. Norton, April 2007) is based on research interviews with 40 adults who has this experience as children. The book provides the first glimpse into this phenomenon from the perspective of those who have lived it.

The book describes PAS as a form of emotional abuse, explains the strategies that alienating parents use, compares alienating parents to cult leaders, identifies eleven catalysts that can trigger the realization that one has been a child victim of PAS, and describes the long-term effects of PAS.

The book is written for targeted parents, adult children of parental alienation syndrome, and the mental health and legal professionals working with these populations. Dr. Baker is a researcher and developmental psychologist with expertise in parent-child relationships, child welfare, and parental alienation syndrome. She is the author of several books and over 50 scholarly articles.

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102.

hmpf    

Oksana, take the rat down...1 out of 3 women are victims of domestic violence and crazy mel is going down. Domestic Violence still is in the shadows of our social consious. The media needs to do a better job of educating the public..men and women..http://www.psghelps.org/AboutDV.asp

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103.

Shell    

Another good move. Let's offend all the fathers now. Is this Dr. for real?

Posted at 5:51 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by Bard59
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No sh.it. Isn't it absurd? I wonder where they found this ignorant supposedly education man to say such drivel. It's so insulting. It pisses me off for all the fathers in the world. I want to smack this McCoy dude.

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104.

Alcamedes    

Oksana, take the rat down...1 out of 3 women are victims of domestic violence and crazy mel is going down. Domestic Violence still is in the shadows of our social consious. The media needs to do a better job of educating the public..men and women..http://www.psghelps.org/AboutDV.asp


Posted at 5:54 AM on Oct 19, 2010 by hmpf


So even though she doesn't have the traits that a DV vcitim has. You assume that she is a victim?

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105.

KM    

‘To turn a child against a parent is to turn the child against himself.’
Thursday, June 25, 2009
By Robert Franklin, Esq.
Here’s an excellent video on PAS (TVO, 6/12/09). It’s a Canadian public affairs TV show called The Agenda with Steve Paikin. The guests are psychologists Dr. Amy Baker and Barbara Fidler, Toronto Family Court Justice Harvey Brownstone and Toronto Family Attorney, Jeffery Wilson. The discussion is excellent and informative.

There are several main points worth repeating. First, PAS is now being considered for inclusion in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, although none of the panelists knew if it would be included.

Second, whether PAS is officially a syndrome or not, it is a very common occurrence among divorced parents and married parents. Justice Brownstone said that he sees it in his court every day to some degree or other. Another Toronto judge recently complained in the Globe and Mail that PAS cases take up a disproportionate amount of family court time. That’s true in part because the cases never end; the alienating parent continues to alienate and the other parent tries to stop it, resulting in a series of court hearings that only stops when the child becomes an adult.

Third, Dr. Richard Warshak’s program designed to reconnect parents with alienated children has shown very promising preliminary results. Of 22 alienated children, 21 successfully reconnected with the non-custodial parent. Of those, 17 were long-lasting, and of the four that relapsed, it was determined that they had been allowed renewed contact with the original alienator too early. (Anti-PAS/anti-dad commentators attempt to denigrate Warshak’s work by calling it “deprogramming.” But apparently he’s having some promising results.)

Fourth, Dr. Baker has studied adults who were alienated as children by a parent, and found that they often experience serious depression stemming from the alienating family dynamic. Baker also emphasized that to turn a child against a parent is to turn the child against him/herself, since the child’s wellbeing requires both parents. Many of Baker’s subjects said that, as children, they had wished the non-custodial parent had “called their bluff.” In other words, they knew at the time that they didn’t believe what they were saying about the non-custodial parent, and wished someone had seen through it.

The video is 37 minutes long and well worth it.

Thanks to Dr. Amy Baker for bringing it to our attention.

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