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MTV on Hook

for 'Teen' Violence?

12/29/2010 9:00 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

The gloves came off today in the TMZ newsroom over MTV's role in the Amber Portwood domestic violence case. Thankfully -- unlike that "Teen Mom" episode -- no one got punched in the head.

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If MTV is on the hook for anything, it's killing rock and roll. We've come a long way - from The Buggles to Miley Cyrus? Sigh.

1395 days ago


Deaths of little children, killed by their mothers is egregious, yet the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry disingenuously tries to make us believe that women don't abuse men too. According to the U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services and DOJ statistics, more kids are killed by neglect and abuse in a year (1,760... in 2007), than all the female intimate partner homicides in a year. Mothers are the single largest group of kid killers, according to HHS, and they have a rate twice that of fathers. Nowhere near the money is spent to protect kids from kid killing mothers as is spent by the domestic violence industry to protect women. The taxpayer funded d.v. industry is a bastion of misandrist vilification, falsely accusing men of being the overwhelming cause of d.v., and empowering violent women to commit further domestic violence. The corruption of the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry is characterized in "Los Misandry" at Youtube.

1395 days ago


If you want to go after the biggest batterers in America, go after the misandrists running the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry as shown in Los Misandry at Youtube. Wake up!

1395 days ago


Domestic violence will never end as long as the whole truth about it is misrepresented to comply with feminist ideology. V.P. Biden recently called violence against women, "the very worst abuse." The very worst abuse is valuing one life less than another for having been born the wrong gender. Under domestic violence law, the wrong gender is men. Shelter and services are virtually non-existent for male victims of domestic violence. Options out of a bad relationship, that women have, are often not available to men. Men wind up gender profiled and falsely accused by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry, because of gender feminist ideology controlling the d.v. industry. Men are often battered by domestic violence, and then battered again by the taxpayer funded, domestic violence industry as shown in "Los Misandry" at Youtube.

1395 days ago


Women's domestic violence against men is grossly under reported, while male victims are still routinely being ignored by the taxpayer funded domestic violence industry. Credible research overwhelmingly shows that the ratio of domestic violence is at least 50/50 between women & men. Go to Fiebert Bibliography. According to one study by researchers who work at the CDC, in 70 percent of domestic violence incidents, where the d.v. is not mutual, it's women who initiate the d. v. Go to Respecting Accuracy in Domestic Abuse Reporting. Click on the link under the red & blue pie chart. D.v. law follows a gender feminist agenda over facts & does great harm to many innocent men & also many violent women. Go to Youtube, “Los Misandry.”

1395 days ago


I have 2 teenage daughters and I love Teen Mom. I think it is a great way for young girls to see how life would change with a baby. But I do think MTV should have handle the situation better. That clip did not need to be seen by all. They are in control and should have tried to intervene with some type of counseling. You have youngs kids that are having babies and suddenly their lives are splashed on the tv screen... by their own choice. I just hope that in the future MTV will make better decisions about some of the material and stop filming when the situation gets out of hand.

1395 days ago


MTV isn't the first, nor will they be the last to promote and profit from the dis-function that "reality" embodies now days...
TLC ALLOWED Kate to abuse Jon, then ran him through the wringer while promoting her and look what she's become - her true money hungry/child ignoring self...The kids are suffering, showing signs of aggressive behavior and she shrugs it off while Jon is still labeled the "Bad Guy"...
As for this farce of a show - nothing like glamorizing a bunch of sex-crazed teens who lack common sense and proper judgment that end up pregnant...Toss a bit of quasi-fame into the mix and they're setting the stage (pun intended) for even more improper behavior as displayed by Amber & Gary BOTH...She clearly has issues that are deeply seeded and should be addressed with intensive therapy, not jail...He is more than content in playing the "victim" while enhancing his own "star-power"...It's far past time to end their run, and yes, MTV and the shows creator (Morgan J. Freeman) bear a large part of the blame for their part in it all...They should have intervened instead of continuing to film it...At the very least, they are guilty of being accessories to any crimes committed in their presence, and of failure to report a crime that occurred during filming...

1395 days ago


Domestic violence is not funny. It doesn't matter if he is an over-weight teen he was being slapped, punched, and kicked. He doesn't deserve to be treated that way. I think the show should be canceled and the two women who work for TMZ should be ashamed of themselves. One only cares if the show gets canceled, the other one thinks it's okay to call the kid fat and downplay the abusive. So, would it still be funny if he was hitting on the girl instead?

1395 days ago


On another note Harvey, I think it's time you lined out your staff on just what comments are inappropriate ("She slapped the fat kid in the head") and what's not...
I would start by reminding them of their positions, and how detrimental their choice of words can be in the age of political correctness...(See Mel Gibson)
I support your position 100% Harvey - MTV is culpable and should face consequences for their failure to act on behalf of the child...It is NEVER "entertainment" when violence is occurring in front of an innocent child and the maturity level of your staff begs to question what if it were their kid?...
Serious reprimands are in order at TMZ, and maybe a class or two on the effects of violence in the home on children, and how not to offend your viewers with tasteless comments that minimize the magnitude of the situation...
An apology is in order from the staffers who surely offended many viewers, both as over-weight people and victims of domestic violence...
We'll see if any apologies are given...I'm counting on YOU, Harvey, as their Boss to address their improper behavior accordingly...

1395 days ago

Peter Sc    

MTV should be hold responsible. They should have reported the crime right away. Of course she should be punished now, but putting her in jail for an incident which took place months ago and forbidding her to see her husband now, where he is of the opinion that they have moved on, is almost a joke.

And it is MTV that is making a joke out of the law, because had she been put in jail when the incident took place, she whould have realized that she needs therapy to deal with her problems which would have meant that she would have been the submissive, silent housewife women in general should be.

I also blame her parents for not sending to a good Christian boarding school secluded from everyone so she could learn to cook and obey her future husband. In Oregon and Arizona they have two good boarding schools where they can kill wild dreams about own career at teenage girls and make them housewives insted.

It was awful to watch. Not even films from earth quakes was as shocking.

1395 days ago

don rychlick    

D.V is never funny! the women at tmz need to grow up! MTV is on the hong for not reporting this Right away! love don

1395 days ago


I just watched your show, and on the show two of the girls that sit where the blond surfer looking dude(sorry don’t mean to stereotype) sits also where laughing at the story. At the end the blond said, she just slapped a fat kid on the back of the head. And then the brunet laughed. I wonder this if the roles were reversed and the dude was punching the girl in the face would it be as funny? Would it have been funny if one of the guys on the show said, he just slapped the fat girl on the back of the head and one of the other guys on the show laughed? I bet that that would not have been allowed on the air or it would have been edited on air. But since it was a chick beating on a dude it was ok. I am glad mother taught me if a woman is man enough to hit a man then the man has all right to hit back. It should not be acceptable that a woman can hit a man.

1395 days ago


This show should be canceled. Making celebrities out of these idiots. Use a condom! Please stop breeding. And I agree with the rest of the post here. If he where to hit her like this all hell would break loose.

1395 days ago


To that uneducated woman on TMZ who thinks it is funny that a "Fat Boy" gets slapped on the back of the head, you need to educate yourself on domestic violence. There ARE men out there who are victims. There ARE men that will not lay a hand on a woman and will not report violence done to them because of the stigma of a man being abused by a woman. If he had slapped her on the back of the head, would you still find that funny? I tend to think you would have a total change of heart. I really think you owe him and the viewers an apology for that comment!

1395 days ago


Harvey, you're absolutely right. Your staff, unfortunately, is part of the problem; they're the audience for this reality show crap that masquerades as entertainment. Keep the film running and make celebrealities out of idiots.

The attitude toward the domestic violence in your newsroom is absolutely horrific. It's okay because she was hitting him; it's okay because he's "the fat guy." So what if the child was present? Keep the cameras rolling. Are you kidding me? What's wrong with your staff?

Maybe you need to bring in some professionals to train your staff on what's acceptable and what's not--I hope none of them ever find themselves in the position of being victims of DV because if they do they'll soon discover that it's NOT funny and it's NEVER acceptable, regardless of who's doing the hitting.

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