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Dr. Murray Will NEVER Cop a Plea in MJ Death

6/25/2011 6:20 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Sources directly connected to Dr. Conrad Murray tell TMZ ... the Doc will not accept any plea bargain from the L.A. County District Attorney in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

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We're told Dr. Murray feels so strongly about his innocence, even a plea with no jail time would be out of the question. 

Fact is ... Dr. Murray shouldn't hold his breath, because no plea bargain has been offered and sources tell us the D.A. will not offer one.

As for Murray's defense ... we're told the centerpiece revolves around the fact that only two people were in the room around the time MJ died, and Murray insists he did not administer the fatal dose of Propofol.

The operating theory of Murray's lawyers -- when the Doc left to go to the bathroom, a frustrated MJ woke up and administered the fatal dose himself in a desperate attempt to get some sleep.

So we ask ...



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Lyell Dmariejrzy

I had thought Michael did slowly kill himself, with all his doctors that enabled him. Rabbi Schmuli has tapes of Michael and he was very unhappy and very aware of his actions. Dr. Conrad is guilty, but not of murder, but of neglect and greed. We lost the King of Pop by so many factors, he was a genius who was very intelligent.

Mr. Clean jealous of kate

It will never ever end, MJ's fans will always think of him as a God who was not a drug abuser, who was a SAINT, and was murdered. Others see him-some as a pedophile, where some kids have never come foward (and yes, I know, the last case was BS, a family smelling $$$$), a con artist that stole tapes from Paul Anka, (big embarrassment for the estate with that BIG Thing with the handcuffs and briefcase escorting the case to be delivered and it was an old so so song of Anka's, and Anka was NICE ABOUT IT). MJ was in deep debt when he died, but he still was a big enabler to his family ('cept Janet, maybe laToya, and not to Reba)Those idiot brothers NEVER GREW UP BECAUSE OF HIM. NEVER LEARNED RESPONSIBILITY. In Debt, he put his mother into a MANSION! She did not need a mansion, a nice house maybe, but not a mansion and all that money a month. HE WAS THE SUPREME ENABLER AND BECAUSE OF THIS, NOT ONE OF THEM HAD THE BACKBONE TO COME FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP HIM COME CLEAN. His death, HIS FAULT, BUT HIS FAMILY STOOD BY AND WATCHED! They did not want to lose their allowances, so it was better not to talk to him then to help him or keep him from DYING!!!! So, in guilt, they blame others!!!!

SUN Scottt

In my opinion Dr. Murray was at worst an "ENABLER", and is not a murderer, quite the opposite. Wether he died with the Propofol or not, it was going to happen sooner than later. I (being a former prescription pain killer addict), know that it was just a matter of time. This addiction leads to 2 things: Jail, or Death, and being Michael Jackson, you don't go to jail....

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Lyell Dmariejrzy

I had thought Michael did slowly kill himself, with all his doctors that enabled him. Rabbi Schmuli has tapes of Michael and he was very unhappy and very aware of his actions. Dr. Conrad is guilty, but not of murder, but of neglect and greed. We lost the King of Pop by so many factors, he was a genius who was very intelligent.

Mr. Clean jealous of kate

It will never ever end, MJ's fans will always think of him as a God who was not a drug abuser, who was a SAINT, and was murdered. Others see him-some as a pedophile, where some kids have never come foward (and yes, I know, the last case was BS, a family smelling $$$$), a con artist that stole tapes from Paul Anka, (big embarrassment for the estate with that BIG Thing with the handcuffs and briefcase escorting the case to be delivered and it was an old so so song of Anka's, and Anka was NICE ABOUT IT). MJ was in deep debt when he died, but he still was a big enabler to his family ('cept Janet, maybe laToya, and not to Reba) Those idiot brothers NEVER GREW UP BECAUSE OF HIM. NEVER LEARNED RESPONSIBILITY. In Debt, he put his mother into a MANSION! She did not need a mansion, a nice house maybe, but not a mansion and all that money a month. HE WAS THE SUPREME ENABLER AND BECAUSE OF THIS, NOT ONE OF THEM HAD THE BACKBONE TO COME FORWARD TO TRY TO HELP HIM COME CLEAN. His death, HIS FAULT, BUT HIS FAMILY STOOD BY AND WATCHED! They did not want to lose their allowances, so it was better not to talk to him then to help him or keep him from DYING!!!! So, in guilt, they blame others!!!!

SUN Scottt

In my opinion Dr. Murray was at worst an "ENABLER", and is not a murderer, quite the opposite. Wether he died with the Propofol or not, it was going to happen sooner than later. I (being a former prescription pain killer addict), know that it was just a matter of time. This addiction leads to 2 things: Jail, or Death, and being Michael Jackson, you don't go to jail....

Lyell Carl

Enabling an addict is a crime, especially when it is a doctor doing it. Yes, Michael, like all people, are ultimately responsible for their own actions. But when others do actions that are obviously harmful (directly or indirectly) to another person they need to be held accountable. Basically, if Murray and other doctors refused to knowingly give him harmful medications Jackson would probably be alive today.

Mr. Clean wow

Dr. Murray accepted the position knowing full well what it entailed. He wanted all the perks that came with the job and along with that came the responsibility. He can't have it both ways. Dr. Murray took an oath to act in the best interest of the patient and he failed miserably. He should lose his license. MJ was a kind and gifted person. He was a humanitarian with a wonderful smile but he wasn't perfect and lived in a "bubble" at times. It's unfortunate he became addicted to painkillers and propofol for he was always against drugs. Unfortunately, it can happen to anyone as only too many know. It's a shame he couldn't find an alternative to propofol for his insomnia or at least taken better precautions.

SUN KikiOttawa

Dr. Murray is guilty of failing to put MJ’s health and wellbeing before everything else. Did Dr. Murray make MJ an addict? No, MJ did that but Dr. M certainly enabled, provided legal access to drugs and assisted MJ in his addiction. He deserves to be punished in an appropriate manner. That is to say, the public trial is not fair as had his patient been Joe Blow from Noweheresville, Arizona, none of this attention would be on him. He did wrong, but the prosecution seems to be geared to who the patient was not what the doctor did. He should be subjected to the same sanctions for his part in MJ’s death as he would in Joe Blow of AZ.

Lyell Stef

MJ was a drug addict...no doubt about it..but Dr. Murray was a doctor who did NOT keep the oath he took when he became a doctor to 'do no harm'. He, along with others, supplied MJ with drugs and in Murray's case, Propofol-something that was NOT to be used outside of a hospital/surgical facility setting and more importantly is NOT used to treat insomnia. Of course he's responsible. He left the room and left his patient while giving him the Propofol. He's an a**. Heaven help the morons who continue to use him as their physician.

Mr. Clean Satish Desai

Here is a suggested defense for Dr. Murray that might get him out of trouble:

Dr. Murray was a paid employee of Michael Jackson's promoter company - whatever the name was. In other words, Dr. Murray was not free to act on his own, as an independent professional who had control on what treatment he can give to his patient, without the fear of loosing his job. He was rather, obligated to follow the instructions of his employer, or else get fired.

As such, Mr. Murray (not Dr. Murray in this case) can not be held responsible for injuries or death caused by his actions which were performed under immediate control of his employer. The state would have to prove that Murray injected certain drug without the consent of MJ, in defiance of MJ's instructions, and with the intention of harming MJ.

To prevent such tragedies in the future, the State of California would have to pass a law prohibiting employment of physicians by their patients.

SUN Ziggy

I love Michael dearly, but he was an addict. I believe he was impatient, and frustrated, and likely gave himself a massive dose when he couldn't get to sleep. Having said that, Mr. Murray illegally brought Propofol into the house. He did not monitor Michael while he was under the influence of the drug, and he left the drug alone with the patient. These careless actions led to the death of Michael, therefore, he is guilty.



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mymjj5.    

I'm a huge fan of his massive talents, but certainly agree that Michael made some really stupid decisions that hurt his career.
Even if you choose to believe he was a child-molester, MJ was the greatest, most successful, most accomplished performing artist that ever moonwalked the earth.
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I'm a fan of their massive talents, but certainly agree that Elvis, John Lennon, and many others made some stupid decisions that hurt their careers. Even if I choose to beleive that Elvis was a child molester, substance abuser, and suffered from bulimia (a form of bull eating) his life and impact was monumental in american pop culture and the world.

Even if I believed John Lennon was a gay, atheist, satanist, eurasian who built his music career from stolen music of black artists like so many before him (Elvis included), he was still a great artist with millions of fans devoted to his legacy.

Everyone should be proud and fortunate to know that such great musical talents will live on forever through their gifts which is all that matters in the first place.

1126 days ago
272.

mymjj5.    

Great post LC4!!!
Hi Cherwood! Part 1 was funnier than part2. Good post though.

1126 days ago
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sofi    

Of the 310 million earned in December 2010,159 has gone toward paying down Jackson's debts,supporting his children and covering funeral and memorial service expenses according to court do***ents.Branca and the other co-executors have also renegotiated and restructured existing financing arrangements and sought out new deals to generate more income.

//blogs.forbes.com/zackomalleygreenburg/2011/06/29/michael-jackson's-400million-afterlife/

1125 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

I don't need/want your self-absorbed opinions, Cherwood.
I wasn't talking about you, narcissist!
LEAVE MY NAME OUT OF YOUR POSTS!!!!
MYOB!!!!

1124 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

No, I don't think Dr. Murray is guilty of killing the King of Pop.
I've said it before and will say it again: Michael Jackson had enough of it all --- the hangers-on --- the pressures to perform --- the sleepless nights --- the expectations and frustrations, etc...
from FAREWELL, a poem I wrote about what I think ended the life of Michael.
Those of us with good observational skills could clearly see that MJ was not in good enough shape for fifty shows --- and he knew it.
I'm sure he did --- the consummate performer he was.
I'm also sure he hid his very best.
If you put all the various pieces together, it is entirely believable that MJ delivered the lethal dose of Propofol to himself, which would let Dr. Murray off the hook --- i.e. not guilty as charged.
Finally, if Michael could speak, he'd say "leave the doc alone --- I am where I wanna be."

1124 days ago
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SaraJane    

@Robyn Hope

Murray is guilty, as a Doctor you don’t give a stack of Benzos at regular intervals and then, do the very perilous deed of topping it off with propovol. It doesn’t work that way in medicine...Michael was unresponsive by the time this was administered.

The standard of care was diabolical from start to finish, if Michael ever had thoughts of suicide he would have done that during that sham of a trial..He could have had enough of it all then - & justifiably so as the cruelty inflicted on him was immeasurable but he didn’t.

So when preparing for his concerts & perform- which he did all of his life you think he suddenly had enough of his life & decided to leave his precious children fatherless????

The real reason Michael is no longer here is because of the despicable category of acts inflicted to Michael BY Murray.

''No, I don't think Dr. Murray is guilty of killing the King of Pop.''

HE IS GUILTY AS HELL!!!

You have obviously NO knowledge of this case...And you are obviously not a fan.

1123 days ago
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juan lopez    

why should murray cop a plea to a murder that never happened? well a murder happened as far as the media/tmz is concerned. MJ IS NOT DEAD

1123 days ago
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juan lopez    

im a firm believer that murray should NEVER cop a plea too because MJ is not dead.

1123 days ago
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mymjj5.    

murray should not cop a plea, because one has not been offered...

1123 days ago
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Cherwood    

-Hey SaraJane, excellent Post! I think it's HILARIOUS how people who clearly have NO frame of reference on Michael want to use their LAME Psychology on him. If she had done ANY research on the 2005 Trial, she would know that it was the only time he may have considered taking his life but he didn't because he was too STRONG for that and because he LIVED for his children......
Just the fact that she wrote this line speaks VOLUMES:
"Those of us with good observational skills could clearly see that MJ was not in good enough shape for fifty shows --- and he knew it"
He had a schedule TAILORED to give him rest and quality time with PPB, and the concert itself was set up with breaks for him throughout. As you stated, Michael had been onstage since he was 6 so no matter how long it had been, it was like getting back on the bicycle for him--he was more at home onstage than off.....
As for Murray, I'm not surprised she's DUMB enough to believe he's not guilty since she's DELUSIONAL enough to think he may have committed suicide....
Must be those "GOOD" observational skills.....LOL x 1000!!
-Robyn Hope-less, your post is why I call you this because you are DETERMINED to make Michael out to be some drugged up weakling that was afraid of life. The only thing bothering him besides the Media, Murray and the rest of the culprits is people like you who have the GALL to call themselves a "fan", then proceed to DUMP all over his legacy. You're right, you weren't talking about me, but I'm talking about you and will continue until you quit talking CRAP on these boards about Michael under the guise of being a fan....
You have NO PROOF of any of what you wrote and what's worse, you haven't done an ounce of Research. And for the record, nobody's fooled by your antics, even the haters know a FAKE when they see it so if you're on here to try to sell us on some LAME website you have, don't waste your time....
And FYI, if you want me to stop talking about you, STOP talking about MICHAEL...because I love him, HE IS MY BUSINESS!!

Cher
MJJ Justice League 2009--WE ARE HERE TO CHANGE THE WORLD!!!
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!

1123 days ago
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juan lopez    

Hey everybody...


Have a wonderful Independence Day! do something you have done in a long time, since your own childhood!

1123 days ago
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Karry Van Zandt    

More importance needs to be acknowledged for the fact that MJ was an addict. If more was dicussed about his disease and less on someone to blame, MJ could help a fellow addict from this tragic event. It was a choice MJ made. If the family would open up about his addiction they may truly save a life. Sickness & secrets = death. I'll miss the music that made the magic of Micheal Jackson.

1122 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

@ Karry Van Zandt

I couldn't agree with you more!

1121 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

@ Sara Jane

If you believe a fan must like and accept EVERYTHING Michael chose to do in his personal life , then to you, I am not a fan.
What I am is a fan sans the "atic".
I am, after all, about intuition and uncommon sense.

1121 days ago
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Robyn Hope    

Didn't mean to say "Michael hid his best" --- spelling error.
MJ hid nothing! He always did his best --- even when the cards were stacked against him.
Ever the consummate artist, but at the end, alas, he couldn't fake it anymore.

1121 days ago
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