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When Elfmans Explode

6/13/2006 4:05 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Jenna ElfmanIf Tom Cruise's recent public displays weren't evidence enough, Scientologists Jenna and Bodhi Elfman prove that they, too, are willing to go to great lengths to defend their religion.

Indie film director John Roecker tells TMZ he was walking to his car with a female friend in LA's trendy Los Feliz neighborhood last Sunday when he was approached by a shirtless man and a tall blonde. "Hey, man, you're making fun of my religion," said the stranger angrily.

Roecker quickly recognized the couple as actor Bodhi Elfman and his wife, 'Dharma and Greg' star Jenna Elfman. Mr. Elfman's ire was apparently drawn by Roecker's self-made t-shirt, which had a picture of Tom Cruise on the front under the caption "Scientology is Gay!" and a 'Stayin'-Alive'-era John Travolta on the back with the words "Very Gay!" For the record, both Cruise and Travolta have said repeatedly they are not gay.

Roecker and his controversial t-shirt

According to Roecker, whose encounter was first reported on LA's KROQ-FM's Kevin and Bean Show, the invective started to fly after he made several references to Scientology theology and its reported central tenent, the story of Xenu.

Roecker says Jenna repeatedly said "What crimes have you committed?" and began screaming at Roecker, "Have you raped a baby?" as motorists on Los Feliz Boulevard drove by in snarled traffic.

Roecker says it appears that Bodhi Elfman prepared to take a swing at him, but thought against it.

Bizarrely, Roecker also says that the Elfmans had a young, twenty-something male companion with them whom they continually instructed to move away and cover his ears whenever references to Xenu were made.

Roecker says this is not the first time he has worn a t-shirt that has provoked similar reactions from fellow devotees of L. Ron Hubbard like Juliette Lewis, Lisa Marie Presley, and actor Hal Ozman, who worked on 'Dawson's Creek' with none other than a certain Katie Holmes. Sources at the Church of Scientology's Celebrity Centre say Roecker is no stranger to them. Several non-celeb parishioners have also complained about Roecker's t-shirts.

Bodhi Elfman's rep Jenni Weinman tells TMZ that according to Bodhi "He was out for a Sunday stroll with his wife, when some guy walks by with a t-shirt on, very prominently attacking his religion. Words were extended and Bodhi and Jenna were personally attacked for their beliefs. As they went about their business, the guy continued to try to illicit negative responses from the both of them. As they walked away he continued to scream propaganda and hate at them. Apparently he spent all Monday calling the press to promote himself."
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31.

captcoyote    

Personally I am a devout Catholic, but I do not get insulted by jokes made about Catholicism. I watch "South Park", and I saw some of the stuff they wrote about my faith, and thought they said some very funny things. (They have done at least tow shows that I watched.) I figure I can't make fun of other people's religions unless I am willing to have people poke fun of mine. Part of the reason we have wars is because people have to have a sense of humor with regard to their own faith. I always remember that God has a sense of humor, after all he listens to our prayers.

2971 days ago
32.

Danr    

Screw Scientology, but what's up with the gay bashing?

2971 days ago
33.

Steve Hodges    

Jenna who?

2971 days ago
34.

jim    

I read "Dianetics" too. It was 1/3 practical and sensible, 1/3 interesting speculation, and 1/3 complete insanity.

But that's their right if they want to believe in it. If they want to pay money to believe in it, even, that's still their right.

What gets me is how sensitive so many Scientologists are to being made fun of. That's what makes the Elfman's response as being reported by this guy so believeable. Cruz flies into lawsuit mode, "South Park" loses Isaac Hayes, when Hayes had no problem with them mocking every other belief system on the planet...

Just like Fundamentalist Christians, they seem to think they're the only people being made fun of.

Someone should tell them their defensiveness makes them more suspicious than just letting people make jokes.

In any case, this is America, and God bless us, we have the right to make fun of anyone we want, including and most especially any religion at any time we feel like.

2971 days ago
35.

Jaime    

Scientology is a religion only insofar as its leaders have managed to engage a large number of followers. I have read much of the "doctrine", but a search of associated articles seem to impress little more than the "church's" constant efforts to feign legitimacy by petitioning for tax-exempt status in county's where they manage to create a large enough presence. It would seem than any school of thought, given enough effort and celebrity influence can earn funds for a library and multiple "cultural centers" free from local and federal taxes, as well as receiving protection under state and federal discrimination laws.

Freedom of speech is great. We also have the freedom to ignore and or activly voice our opinions of a Sci-Fi authors rantings. Trekkies are looking so much cooler to me everyday.

2971 days ago
36.

Big Daddy    

Now if only we can get people to do the same thing with all religions, cuz they are all just as ridiculous as this Xenu crap.

2971 days ago
37.

Jon    

What's with Jenna? Has her new sitcom been slumping? Why is she getting so bent out of shape about a stranger's t-shirt. Scientologists
strike me as a dubious bunch, especially after its celebrity
members act bizarrely (Tom Cruise jumping on a couch
and insulting Brooke Shields for no apparent reason) This is
just another example of weird scientologist theatrics.
Do scientologists have a persecution complex as members of
a minority religious group?

2970 days ago
38.

Steve    

Scientology is no more ludicrous than any of the other predominant belief systems.
All Hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Pax, Steve

2970 days ago
39.

Harry    

There's an interesting discussion about the Elfman episode on XENU.NET:
http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=19002

http://www.xenu.net is very informative website about the scientology "church" seen from the critics perspective. The forum is filled with both critics and members of the CO$.

2970 days ago
40.

Rasta Avatar    

Stupidology is for stupid people. Not completely stupid but just kind of weak minded, not well educated, and easily led astray by big words, yet at the same time huge egos so they believe that their decisions are foolproof. There may be many celebrities who claim to be scientologists but I can guarantee that many if not most of them are just pretending so that they can become home-boys with Cruise, Travolta etc.

What can you say about Stupidology that hasn't been said 10,000 times already? The celebrity dummies who buy into that scam give the rest of us a glimpse into the intellectual level of your average celebrity i.e. space cadets. Probably the result of spending so much time worrying about "making it big" and then "staying hot" that they develop a lot of mental fatigue and stress which leaves them open to predator stress release programs and "healers". The celebrities who actually believe in Stupidology probably gained some reliief from the stress of show biz from scientology before they ever knew anything about it. They were probably introduced by a friiedn to stress reduction techinques they use and the big dummies probably thought the Stupidologists "must know what they're talking about because they made me feel better" duh. Like stupid puppies they got suckered by people who fed them snacks when they were hungry and now they are devoted to their masters.

Hey but they're not the only stupids in Hollywood. Brad and Angelina are big fans of Ayn Rand. The Ayn Rand philosophy is called "Objectivism" and the groups that promote her and her philosophy are groups like the "Ayn Rand Institute" and the "Objectivist Center" who are both competing for followers and hate each other's guts.

Other famous Ayn Rand believers

Jennifer Aniston
Christina Ricci
Rob Lowe
Sandra Bullock
Blossom star Mayim Bialik
Jerry Lewis
Alan Greenspan (a close associate and dsiciple of Rand)
John Stossel
Hillary Clinton
And many more celebrities and well known people in government and media.

If you want to know what Ayn Radn is all about see these critiques

http://victoria.tc.ca/int-grps/books/techrev/bkatshrg.rvw

http://www.strangewords.com/archive/ayn.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20020124040704/http://www.linguafranca.com/9909/rand.html

It's essentially selfishness trying to be disguised as a philosophy for stupid rich people.

Brad and Angelina are said to be trying to get Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" produced with Oliver Stone as producer.

There is a scientology connection to all this. Before scientology existed there was it's forerunner dianetics. Dianetics was very popular throughout colege campuses in the 1950's and early 60's before Hubbard changed it into scientology. Dianetics lost a lot of followers to the Objectivist movement when it became popular on campuses in the eary 1960's.

2970 days ago
41.

ksd    

I disagree with Roecker. Scientology is so uncool that it must obviously must be hetero!

2970 days ago
42.

RobNichols    

Religous beliefs or the lack of them should be a highly personal thing. If there's one certainty in life it's that any set of beliefs will be judged ludicrous, idiotic, simplistic, or imbecilic by a large number of people with wildly divergent perspectives. When public life in America was much more civilized, people actually avoided making such pathetically annoying and transparently grandstanding pronouncements about their beliefs. They were mature and intelligent enough to understand that it was none of anybody else's business. Besides, anyone who does take an abiding interest in the beliefs of others is almost certainly up to no good, and should be locked up or lobotomized on general principles of public safety.

2970 days ago
43.

MJM    

I am sorry to say Robyn, but for an attorney you seem to know so little about Scientology.
First and foremost Scientology is in no way a religion, well as religious as a cult can be. It's not a coincidence that the "Church of Scientology" isn't as far as I know actually a registered church in the US, because it requires members to pay a fee. In Germany it is even banned, because it is a cult. Freedom of speech in all honour, but it should only go so far. And if you consider parts of Scientology more believable than other religions, please feel free to smack yourself.
This sentence for instance: "Or deflowering X number of virgins in heaven after you blow people up."
Is ignorant, because that is simply just the interpretation of the fundamentalists, just like the crusades. These things are done by abusing a religion. Theoretically Scientology can be abused (if that isn't already the case) to squeeze the last bit of money out. It is such a tightly knit organisation, no one would notice. After all, it is just an invention of a science-fiction author who had a dream or vision of some kind.

Please, re-educate yourself before posting such comments and posting with your job.


P.S.: please mind the tad bits of humour I sprinkled in this post.

2970 days ago
44.

jodylynn    

Where can I get one of those shirts? Love it!
Too funny.

2970 days ago
45.

sallyrover    

Hilarious! Anything to tear down this chuckle-headed cult is beautiful. John, can you make me one of those shirts too?!

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