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When Elfmans Explode

6/13/2006 4:05 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Jenna ElfmanIf Tom Cruise's recent public displays weren't evidence enough, Scientologists Jenna and Bodhi Elfman prove that they, too, are willing to go to great lengths to defend their religion.

Indie film director John Roecker tells TMZ he was walking to his car with a female friend in LA's trendy Los Feliz neighborhood last Sunday when he was approached by a shirtless man and a tall blonde. "Hey, man, you're making fun of my religion," said the stranger angrily.

Roecker quickly recognized the couple as actor Bodhi Elfman and his wife, 'Dharma and Greg' star Jenna Elfman. Mr. Elfman's ire was apparently drawn by Roecker's self-made t-shirt, which had a picture of Tom Cruise on the front under the caption "Scientology is Gay!" and a 'Stayin'-Alive'-era John Travolta on the back with the words "Very Gay!" For the record, both Cruise and Travolta have said repeatedly they are not gay.

Roecker and his controversial t-shirt

According to Roecker, whose encounter was first reported on LA's KROQ-FM's Kevin and Bean Show, the invective started to fly after he made several references to Scientology theology and its reported central tenent, the story of Xenu.

Roecker says Jenna repeatedly said "What crimes have you committed?" and began screaming at Roecker, "Have you raped a baby?" as motorists on Los Feliz Boulevard drove by in snarled traffic.

Roecker says it appears that Bodhi Elfman prepared to take a swing at him, but thought against it.

Bizarrely, Roecker also says that the Elfmans had a young, twenty-something male companion with them whom they continually instructed to move away and cover his ears whenever references to Xenu were made.

Roecker says this is not the first time he has worn a t-shirt that has provoked similar reactions from fellow devotees of L. Ron Hubbard like Juliette Lewis, Lisa Marie Presley, and actor Hal Ozman, who worked on 'Dawson's Creek' with none other than a certain Katie Holmes. Sources at the Church of Scientology's Celebrity Centre say Roecker is no stranger to them. Several non-celeb parishioners have also complained about Roecker's t-shirts.

Bodhi Elfman's rep Jenni Weinman tells TMZ that according to Bodhi "He was out for a Sunday stroll with his wife, when some guy walks by with a t-shirt on, very prominently attacking his religion. Words were extended and Bodhi and Jenna were personally attacked for their beliefs. As they went about their business, the guy continued to try to illicit negative responses from the both of them. As they walked away he continued to scream propaganda and hate at them. Apparently he spent all Monday calling the press to promote himself."
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76.

cingirl    

I LOVE the shirt. People have worn t-shirts with the pope smoking dope etc. - can't people have a sense of humour - even if it is about their religion?

BTW - Steven Speilberg is not a Scientologist - but a practising and self-identifying Jew. He did, however, tolerate Tom Cruise shenanigans during the filming of shooting of War of the Worlds to keep his leading man happy - something that he later regretted and commented on in an artilce in Der Speigel.

2961 days ago
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michael j norton    

I'm not a Scientologist, but what makes Christianity or Hinduism anymore real than Scientology? I say nothing. I say it's the same. And you have to be willing to respect others AND to let things slide in the long run. A t-shirt making fun of someone's religion is a small inconvience. However, being Buddhist I can totally see where Scientologists feel persecuted. Everytime you turn around in this country someone is making you feel like crap if you're not a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim. When in fact, one is the same as the other.

Michael

2961 days ago
78.

Maryann    

Isn't this America? You believe in your religion, I believe in mine.

2961 days ago
79.

hol    

since when does being an attorney give you a more heightened level of any religion? i didn't realize you spent hours of theology and religion during law school. where else would you get such knowledge?

2961 days ago
80.

lalala    

Scientology = Science FICTION!!! The higher up in this "religion" that you get - the more it makes you jump up and down on Oprah's couch like a monkey.

2961 days ago
81.

Jane    

Scientologists are dangerous and need to be exposed. People in Hollywood are afraid to speak out against them because they are so powerful. They are hiding behind the fake label of a "religion" so they can dodge taxes and (LITERALLY) get away with murder. John is brave; if something happens to him people will take note.
Scientologists: we are watching you.

2961 days ago
82.

charles    

LOL sounds like what they are doing what they are trained to do.
Attack anybody that says some thing about there cult!
Because unlike other real religions that will stand on there
on no matter how hard they are attacked.
Cults don't want the light shinned on it's inner workings to long.
for fear very body will see it for what it really is!

2961 days ago
83.

Patti    

Well said Ky.

2961 days ago
84.

Diamonddille    

Hi again. You did't get my point, as I am obviously an inexperienced writer. But I am a Scientologist for over 30 years, for what its worth, but I think I know what it is and what it is not.
You obviously know nothing of Scientology. That long Xenu Story , taken out of context from perhaps an upper level course in Scientology at OT lll may be laced with a Story that LRH perhaps told to get a point across, but what is that Point? Remember he was a Science fiction writer, he tells stories for a point. Sorry to disapoint you, but that is not what Scientology is.. Remember me telling you that I knew with absolute certainty, that when a person realizes what Scientology is, he becomes one. That holds true.

If you want to keep believing anti-Scientology retoric, fine, but just know that is all it is. That is not Scientology..

My Friend Scientology is in the business of increasing human abilities, it does this by using one of the basic tenants of Scientology. It is a Spiritual Law that states:" When a being sees an exact truth of something it disapears". That law is very powerful. Scientology didn't make it powerful, Scientology didn't make the law .LRH the Founder of Scientology mearly became aware of it. He thru different processses and techniques makes you aware of it. IF you can become aware of it and use it you will be the one to benefit. If you don't want to look that is OK too. But don't put down others because they looked and saw it and became aware of it too.
Truth is what you believe is true, That is also a known axiom in Scientology. It is not a believe system. If others are becoming aware of something and your not, don't knock them.
If I am at the 3rd grade level of Music and you can understand Mozart, it is your realizations that prove to you what you know, they don't do Jack for me. Same as the Realizations at upper levels of Scientology. It is the upper levels that bring about the abilities that you know you know, just like the upper levels in Music.

So Realize that Xenu Science fiction story is not the basics of Scientology. If yu were on that level and you were ready for that level, It would be more than just a story. Remember Scientology is based on Spiritual Laws that at some point can be observed by anyone. You can't take a 3rd grader in the music and by exposing him to Mozaart level music knowledge and expect it to do any thing for him. When a being sees the exact truth of something, then expect it to do something. Hope this shedds a better light on the subject. Scientology is worth checking out for your self, really what you find out from the media isn,nt Scientology. You have to go to www.Scientology.net to start to look. Upper level material in any field of knowledge isn't going to do any thing to any one if they are not ready for it. So making a joke of it to try and distcredit Scientology is only showing the ignorance of the one trying to make it a joke. Scientology is a very real study of the mind . It takes 3 years full time study to get to be an expert on the mind. One in the street isn't going to remotely understand it . But you don't have to undeerstand it if you just want to go in gor processing. The processes will blow your socks off and you don't have to understand them. But go and find out for your self. Don't let the lies keep you from having life changing REALIZATIONS... Realizations are the only thing that will change you. Scientology specializes in change. For every 2% tht you here negitive out here in the media 98% are finding out the truth for themselves. Don't gert left behind. Check it out for your self, by going into the professionals, not he quacks and the media.

The Right side of the page is gone and I can't control or review my writting, so sorry if this looks unprofessonal. My heart is in it, and I hope I can help. It is your eternity and if you want to be in it in a good condition, Fix your Mind...

2961 days ago
85.

PDQ    

Organized religion is for the weak minded. It's part fairy tale, part magic and it's spread by a group of charlatans that want to separate you from your money.

Who exactly are the Elfmans? She hasn't been on TV in a while (unless it was an obscure Hallmark Channel show perhaps) and I can't say that I've ever seen him.

Who in the hell cares what they believe?

2961 days ago
86.

madam bomb    

A religion is just a cult that has won government approval.
(And gets tax exemption to boot!)

Personally I think all organized religions are cults, no matter what (and they should be taxed too!). Yes, some of them do some great "charitable" work and help lots of people out (often in the guise of ministry work). But, I think most of those people would be better off getting some psychological counseling rather than adhering to often frivolous moral restrictions. I agree with the lawyer, Scientology is no different from Catholocism, Judaism, Buddhism, etc. They all have entirely whacked premises which unfortunately often espouse hate, intolerance, strange moral strictures and behaviors (save mainly for Buddhism, although it does have it's moments in history associated with violence and some sects that have intense behavioral limitations).

Religion is for the weak for whom common sense is evasive.
It's really rather easy:
Love one another and work it out
Respect your elders and take care of them
Don't marry your sister
Do no harm
Tread lightly

People who are religious, should keep it to themselves. Shut up about it. Stop bugging the rest of the world, whether they be in your faith or not. Who cares? Get on with life and stop trying to make it so damned complicated. It's too short for all this bickering about when or when not you can eat leavened bread, or where black, or pray to Xenu or Jesus or Vishnu, drive a car on Sundays or what have you.

It's the 21st century and we just seem to be getting worse, not better. Let's move on from these ancient tribal customs and embrace each other for what we are, strange beings trapped on a planet in a universe that is infinite beyond imagination. We don't know where we came from, where we're going, or what they hell we're doing right now. Let's just enjoy it and stop fighting!!

2961 days ago
87.

KarenSundae    

You can't make fun of Jew these days........it's politically incorrect......and hilarious when South Park does it. Everyone takes themselves so seriously

2961 days ago
88.

Bowspearer    

I find it ironic. Most people in most religions generally have a thick skin, but going by past precedents, scientologists are WAY too uptighht. This incident screams Deja Vu of when Tom Cruise sued the creators of South Park and had the scientology episode banned outside of the US. But hey I guess we should all shut up before they personally attack us- or worse.... hit us all with individual class action lawsuits.

2961 days ago
89.

Mich    

REad Rolling Stone"s article on scientology....it really is a cult!

2961 days ago
90.

robbie    

To the lawyer who thinks he has a heightened level of analysis that is superior to the average american:

Get off your high horse.....BIG DEAL YOU PASSED THE BAR EXAM. Being a lawyer doesn't mean that your views on religion are any better than anyone else's.....your message would have been more warmly received had you not placed yourself on some professional demi-god pedestal.....OH AND BY THE WAY....you are in no way a professional of relion, cults, or theology......YOU STUDY LAW.....you should know that.....it would be like having a professional bee keeper testify in a trial as a medical expert. GET OVER YOURSELF

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