Second Autopsy Critical in Carradine Death

David CarradineSources tell TMZ the second autopsy of David Carradine's body will be conducted in a matter of days, and two issues are on the line -- cause of death and life insurance.

As for cause of death, here's what we're hearing ... if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, typically people who do this will put a cloth or something between the neck and the skin to avoid marks that would be difficult to explain. There's a picture that was published in a Thai newspaper showing the body hanging. We will not publish it, but we do not see evidence of anything between the neck and rope. To the contrary, the photo shows redness in the right shoulder area, next to the neck.

Another issue -- if this is truly a case of auto-erotica, generally there would be a magazine, video or something of a sexual nature within eyeshot to stimulate arousal. If nothing like that is around, it's suspicious. The photo does not show any obvious signs of sexual material in the area, however there appears to be something that looks like some sort of picture that may have been taped on the wall. We can't see exactly what it is.

Also -- the notion behind auto-erotica is that oxygen is restricted to heighten orgasm, but the subject generally has a ladder, stool or something like it to restore oxygen. The photo does not show a ladder or stool, but the body is almost in a sitting position. We do not know if any items were moved before the picture was taken.

One of the biggest mysteries -- the photo in the Thai newspaper shows that Carradine's hands are tied above his head (which we reported Friday), yet Thai police say no one was with him in the room. The question -- how's that possible?

As for the second autopsy, it's often harder to determine cause of death because the body has already been through a procedure, but the advantage of the second autopsy is that there's more info and, as one source put it, "you can be more focused in terms of what the issues are."

David CarradineNow, as for life insurance -- most policies provide that the policy is void if the cause of death is suicide, but if it's an accidental death insurance companies are not only required to pay out ... some policies provide that the beneficiaries get twice the payout.

Short story .. a lot will be riding on the second autopsy.



Tags: auto-erotica, autopsy, david carradine, DavidCarradine, dead body, DeadBody, death photo, DeathPhoto, hanging, life insurance, LifeInsurance

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46. R u serious? U can't show the photos? You rushed to show the pics after Rhianna got her ass whooped! Now you have some faux conscience OVER these photos? GTFOH!!

Posted at 4:21PM on Jun 7th 2009 by R u serioous?

47. It might him in the photo. He might have colored his hair for the movie he was filming. What I don't understand is how does one tie themselves up with hands above the head? That is the puzzle here. I personally think it was accidental but a person was in the room with him and panicked and ran. That is what I think. Cause I don't know how he could have tied himself up in that position.

Posted at 4:12PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Lisa

48. How the hell would he be jacking off with his hands tied above his head?

Posted at 4:30PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Mark

49. I love the retards that post links that have nothing to do with this story. you freaking ass holes!!!!

For what I've seen the pics are to small to even see if it David. But the hands were tied above the head, how the fck did he tie himself. This wasn't a suicide, someone must of tied him. And I read that the country that he was in is known for Americana pervs who go to that country to have sex with children and prostitutes....


Gross!

Posted at 5:05PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Priceless

50. The closet bar wasn't very high...why didn't he just stand up?

Posted at 5:21PM on Jun 7th 2009 by jill

51. I saw the picture and it is very hard to tell if it is him but I noticed on the bed that there is a towel or something with blood. I looked at the picture on the website for that particular paper and I also looked at the website for the hotel with pictures of the rooms. I don't think that is of him because also the room looks very small and congested.

Posted at 5:26PM on Jun 7th 2009 by originalkat

52. 53. Here is the actual, uncensored photo if you would like to see it (I vote accidental not suicide):

http://tinyurl.com/carradinephoto

Posted at 5:33PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Patty
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that's a phony link.. are you getting paid to post that link based upon the number of hits it gets ?

Posted at 5:39PM on Jun 7th 2009 by drmd

53. 52. I saw the picture and it is very hard to tell if it is him but I noticed on the bed that there is a towel or something with blood. I looked at the picture on the website for that particular paper and I also looked at the website for the hotel with pictures of the rooms. I don't think that is of him because also the room looks very small and congested.

Posted at 5:26PM on Jun 7th 2009 by originalkat
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I agree with you and the person in that 'death photo' looks like it might be a younger person

Posted at 5:41PM on Jun 7th 2009 by drmd

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Posted at 5:45PM on Jun 7th 2009 by lukebandit_says

55. "the notion behind auto-erotica is that oxygen is restricted to heighten orgasm, but the subject generally has a ladder, stool or something like it to restore oxygen. The photo does not show a ladder or stool, but the body is almost in a sitting position. "

A ladder or stool does NOT restore oxygen, TMZ :)

Oxygen intake was restricted by the rope around his neck. As he was in a sitting position, all David would have had to do was to STAND UP to flex the rope ( losen it up), and be able to breath. I suspect he passed out before he could do so, and by passing out, he slumped over, which put more pressure on his airway, preventing breathing and thus causing death.

Posted at 5:52PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Herabird

56. I'm sure that little Chinese Kung-Fu master with the pebbles in his hand didn't see that coming.

Posted at 6:13PM on Jun 7th 2009 by thinkaboutit

57. I think when it's all said and done, we'll come to find there was a Thai hooker in the room with him and she boogied when she figured out it had gone too far...Have you ever tried effectively tying your own hands?...Have you tried tying them above your head, possibly over a closet bar?...
Carradine had assistance from someone, or he would have been able to wrangle himself out of the bonds...

Posted at 6:07PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Hussie

58. Posted at 5:45PM on Jun 7th 2009 by lukebandit_says

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I passed your info on to many others

Posted at 6:17PM on Jun 7th 2009 by petrescue

59. With many people into fetishes, there is no need for porn magazines, videos or other means of arousal, for the fetish IS the arousal. Self bondage is really not that rare either, and simple to get into, slip-knots, planned release methods, etc, are common.
This cod is highly likely, and if indeed the wig, fish net clothing and other fetish wear are true, this is an unfortunately public revelation of a private matter -leading to a tragic end.

Posted at 7:19PM on Jun 7th 2009 by Patrice

60. I'm sure for a $$$ Dr Baden will customize an autopsy report for the family.

Posted at 7:33PM on Jun 7th 2009 by drmd

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