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Seven Docs Cleared in MJ Probe ... Not Dr. Murray

7/29/2010 5:45 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Dr. Conrad Murray is still the lone suspect in the death of Michael Jackson after state investigators announced today that seven other physicians will not be charged.

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Attorney General Jerry Brown had launched a probe of seven other doctors who treated Jackson -- mainly looking at the prescribing practices of the physicians.

One of the doctors on the list has been reported to the California Medical Board for prescribing drugs to an alias for Michael. That doctor was not named.

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neicey    

why are they hiding the identity of this doctor?

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janalal4    

Humppphh!! Well just how HARD did they look?! Anybody check out that sketchy Dr.Neil Ratner. How can anyone watch that video where Dr.Sanjay Gupta interviewed him at his Woodstock,NY home & NOT think that guy didn't seriously have something to HIDE?! Here's the video if anyone is interested. This was the anesthesiologist who travelled with the HisStory tour where witnesses spoke of his 'rack of equipment' that 'looked like stereo equipment'(sounds like probably EKG, pulse ox, CO2 monitors, vital sign monitors,etc-basically what Dr.Quacki SHOULD HAVE BEEN USING!), that he would "bring Michael up in the AM & take him down in the PM"-yep, THIS was 'the man'. Too bad MJ didn't ask HIM to accompany him to London or maybe he DID & the guy refused? Should would love to know the answer to that question. Here's the link to the Gupta/Ratner interview. Recently discovered that MJ's 'friend'(remember that shady 'interview' MJ did with Brett Ratner?- where it looked like the camera was hidden & MJ didn't know he was being video'd?) Well Brett Ratner turns out to be this anesthesiologists nephew. Hmmmmm.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/03/jackson.wrap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo

WOW! How can anybody watch this guy & NOT be convinced that the 'services' he provided definitely included that of Propofol?? I suppose suspecting & having 'evidence' are 2 very different things.

This guy is now retired & makes a living 'baking bread' in some 'organic/gourmet' bread shop with his wife Lee Ann. Not sure if he actually owns the shop or what. His license was taken away for 3 years in an inrelated investigation involving Medicare fraud between the years of 2002-2005. Interesting. I'm really not sure if he ever returned to practice following this but perhaps he did not have an 'active license' & that is why MJ was unable to hire him? Maybe the guy just figured that he 'dodged a bullet' doing this for MJ in the past & he'd best 'keep his nose clean' for awhile:)

Here's another page with info on Ratner. Scroll down to bottom for the links.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/my/node/413753

I used to work for Medicare as a 'Utilization Review/ Quality Assurance' nurse & worked with the Dept. of Justice investigating docs here in Florida for Medicare/Medicaid fraud. I would do the 'initial reviews' & give the agents my summary as to whether I thought any wrong-doing had occurred & recommend the cases to them which I believed deserved a more in-depth look. We would then go back & forth with them coming back to our office periodically as their investigation progressed & I'd sit down with them whenever they had questions that required more 'medical info'. Probably THEE most interesting job I've ever had as a nurse. Just a fun little fact here: What they say about federal agents having 'no sense of humor' is absolutely NOT TRUE! They were some of the most 'fun' & 'funniest' guys I've ever met. Not the 'uptight schmucks' portrayed on television & in the movies. They are also extremely generous & must have one MEAN 'lunch expense account'! Best eatin' I ever did on a job:)

I've always believed that Murray was NOT MJ's 1st choice when it came to a physician...ALWAYS. I think he merely 'settled for Murray' as a desperate last resort. Either THAT or his judgement had become seriously impaired. It certainly wouldn't have taken a very extensive background search to discover that this creep was extremely 'shady'. The 'Smoking Gun' even has a photo on their site, a mug shot actually, from his arrest for domestic battery. A 'credit check' would have revealed the mans financial woes. However, perhaps MJ was well aware of these & used it to his own advantage when he hired him. Afterall, the 'Quackster' DID request 1 million/month initially. LOL- MJ must have told him to 'go pound sound' over THAT ONE! Murray THEN settled for $150,000/month. THAT ALONE should have clued MJ in right there! MJ 'wanted what he wanted' though. What a horrible decision but when your asking for 'under the table' services, he surely must have understood that you assume a certain amount of 'risk'. I'd bet that when he began searching for a physician to provide the Diprivan, he was probably shocked to discover that, unlike back in the 80's & 90's, things had very much CHANGED & that there just were NOT the same # of docs willing to take such a terrible 'risk' with their licenses in order to give MJ what he was asking for! I think MJ thought that drugs were as readily available as they were in the 80's & anyone old enough to remember the 80's knows EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO HERE:)

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An interesting, totally unrelated bit of info here: Have you guys seen the La Chappelle art exhibit photos of the work he did using MJ as the subject?? Here's a link to some photos from the exhibit. The 'Rape of Africa' work is pretty amazing as well.

http://www.complex.com/blog_galleries/Exhibit-See-David-LaChapelles-American-Jesus

It's obviously quite controversial- what with the comparison of MJ & Jesus but perhaps the 'best' way to observe & appreciate these works is to simply admire them for what they are, the 'beauty' of them & not go delving too deep because if you scroll to the bottom of this page you can certainly see that a quite 'heated' conversation ensued:) Comparing what MJ endured to that of what Christ endured leading up to his crucifixion. Can we say that Michael Jackson suffered a 'modern day crucificion'?? In the media? I certainly think we can make that comparison. Definitely NOT to the extent that Jesus suffered r/e 'physical pain' but I believe that the 'emotional crucifixion' for Michael was VERY REAL & all the 'hate' directed his way by the general public & the way he was so MISREPRESENTED, MISQUOTED, & MISUNDERSTOOD by the media? I never used to go so far as to say that there was definitely a 'conspiracy' by the media. Today, after what all I've read, I would say without a doubt, there DID EXIST a conspiracy & what the media is doing presently is trying to 'make amends' & to 'cover up' exactly what they did to him. One need only read the articles from the 80's, then the 90's & up until the day MJ passed & then read what they've written ever since. Vanity Fair is a good periodical to start with. Maureen Orth.....what more do you need to even say? :(

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MihaelaMJJ    

I'm sick of your lies!
Some let you all, you are not able to find great truth about the alleged death of Michael, to analyze all the events of that day, to see that nothing is connected, nothing makes sense, or was dead or not dead home, nobody saw anything in that house, there was no witness?
Where were domestic services, where the cameras are filming the house, why leave without saving whistle, etc. .... everything is a lie.
Murray is left open so that agreed to enter into this game a lot of money and if you get away clean, one thing is clear: Michael lives!

If Michael is really dead, what do not want to conceive, then all those who have destroyed in recent years should be sentenced to death! Everyone, not just Murray!
American justice is blind, Murray brought mourning planet destroyed by the biggest star of the science world's largest talent!
This is genocide gentlemen! How to punish you, with freedom?
Michael Jackson is the symbol of U.S. and planet, is the most adored man on the planet, no one can match!
Obama should take a firm stand in dealing with this process!
If there is Michael he reached the U.S. president!
I am very upset and disappointed, I love Michael and I will always wait, because I feel that is kept somewhere away from people who have controlled my whole life!

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65.

VOVA     

i like comment N 16 , quote -- " Burn in hell Michael, you sick twisted junkie pedophile."

BUT prick still calls him MICHAEL -- so sweet , love in it ...

Sure thing if i watch some body for 50 years i find out allot of bad and good things about this person you no problem .Keep watching and leave the Man alone ...

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66.

Chic    

There should be a revocation of this doctors license for a while
anyway, he took a chance that resulted in the death of the greatest man that ever lived.


Justice For Michael!
Love You Forever Michael!

1511 days ago
67.

DetJackson    

Chora O Brasil VOCÊ Por Michael em Levou VOCÊ Pouco de Nós te amamos a sempre.........

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68.

rpg2    

at what point do you blame michael jackson for being a ****ing crack head. this is bull ****. he chose to take this ****

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69.

Kyro    

This Dr should die in jail.... Michael, little baby pan smile though our hearts are aching for you, R.I.P......Not freak but a genius, no doubt.....LOVE YOU

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KILROY    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GP5onh09y4&feature=player_embedded

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Teresa    

You need to learn how to write because you make people think that this so called doctor Murray was cleared and that would be the dumbest move that could be made. He needs to pay for his crime! Don't tell me that he didn't know what he was doing when treating MJ. It is murder know matter how you look at it.

R.I.P MJ.

1511 days ago
72.

mysteria333    

OF COURSE 7 ALLEGED MJ DOCTORS WONT BE CHARGED. THEY ONLY NEED ONE SO CALLED DOCTOR TO CONVINCE PEOPLE MJ ACTUALLY DIED. MURRAY WONT GO TO JAIL EITHER HE'S PLAYED HIS PART IN THIS SCENARIO. AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE HE WAS WELL PAID. AND IT'S ALRIGHT WITH ME, BECAUSE MICHAEL IS JUST AS ALIVE AS I'AM. HOPEFULLY HE IS EXPERIENCING THE PEACE AND HOPEFULLY JOY THAT HE SO RICHLY DESERVES. THE ONLY MICHAEL THAT MAY HAVE DIED IS THE MJ BODY DOUBLE WHO'S NAME WAS LEGALLY CHANGED TO MICHAEL FOR TRAVEL PURPOSES. LOVE YOU TENDERLY, WARMLY AND SINCERELY MICHAEL.

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mysteria333    

BEFORE ALL THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS START, ASK YOURSELF, SUPPOSEDLY MICHAEL WAS STRONG AND HEALTHY, DANCING AND SINGING JUST A FEW HOURS BEFORE HIS DEATH. SO WHY NOT SHOW THE BODY? THE PAPAMEDIC SAID HE WOULD HAVE NEVER RECOGNIZED PATIENT AS MJ IF SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE HAD'NT INSISTED IT WAS MJ. WHY A COMPLETE NEW STAFF SECURITY, DOCTOR, CHEF, NURSE, ETC. BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT ANYONE IN THE HOUSE WHO COULD RECOGNIZE THE REAL MJ! WHY SEARCH MURRAYS PLACES 2 WEEKS AFTER INCIDENT? TO MAKE SURE NOT TO FIND ANY INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE! WHY 3 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AUTOPSY REPORTS? AND WHATS MORE WHERE IS MJ'S BODY DOUBLE? HIS MNGMT PEOPLE SPENT A FORTUNE ON BODY DOUBLES AND DECOYS, FOR SURGERY ON HIS DOUBLES, HAIR EVERYTHING. ACCESS HOLLYWOOD DID A SPECIAL ON THEM. WHERE ARE THEY WOULD'NT YOU THINK THEY'D OF SURFACED BY NOW? THE MEDIA THINKS THE PUBLIC ARE IDIOTS AND WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING, THEY COUNT ON THAT. LETS BE HONEST, I LOVE EVERY MEMBER OF JACKSON FAMILY AND I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR THEM. BUT I ASK YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN ANY REAL GRIEVING FROM ANY OF THEM? I MEAN REALLY. AND TOYA GAVE A 100% PERCENT DIFFERENT DESCRIPTION OF WHAT MJ WAS WEARING IN CASKET, FROM DESCRIPTION JERMAINE GAVE ON DIFFERENT SHOW. I GUESS MJ JUMPED OUT OF CASKET AND CHANGED RIGHT QUICK, AND THEN JUMPED BACK IN. AND THATS JUST A FEW QUESTIONS OF MANY. MJ IS ALIVE!!!!! AND I HOPE HE IS ENJOYING HIMSELF SOMEWHAT, AT LEAST SOME OF THE TIME. HE IS THE WORLDS HERO. WE ALL HAVE TO GO SOMETIME OR ANOTHER, SO I;M NOT ONE OF THOSE ELVIS IS ALIVE NUTS. BUT I KNOW MJ IS VERY MUCH ALIVE. CLEAR EVIDENCE SAYS SO, MY GOOD INSTINCTS SAY SO. AND THE DEEP HUMBLE, SINCERE PRAYERS TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER HAS GIVEN ME THE ANSWER HE'S ALIVE! OUR BELOVED MICHAEL IS ALIVE!

1511 days ago
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janalal4    

You need to learn how to write because you make people think that this so called doctor Murray was cleared and that would be the dumbest move that could be made. He needs to pay for his crime! Don't tell me that he didn't know what he was doing when treating MJ. It is murder know matter how you look at it.

R.I.P MJ.

Posted at 7:42 AM on Jul 29, 2010 by Teresa

It's EMBARASSING ISN'T IT?? Just how slooooooowwwww justice moves in this country? The article DOES however say that Murray is 'still the lone suspect' so TMZ isn't saying Murray is off the hook. It just seems to be taking forever for anything to be done about it. Anna Nicole Smith's case has still not been brought to trial as yet either. It's just taking so ridiculously long for anything to happen here. The medical board is being a big 'wussy' for not yanking this docs license too. Shame on them! They're waiting for the 'criminal justice system' to do THEIR JOB FOR THEM:( Then they can take his license AFTER he's convicted & unless the jury is a bunch of dumbasses unable to understand medical testimony, OR the prosecution makes it so complicated & convoluted that the jury is simply UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND, then Murray WILL be convicted. What is very SAD is that these other doctors won't see any punishment for their own criminal acts and make not mistake, what these doctors did was to 'over-prescribe' & then attempt to HIDE IT with BS 'diagnosis' in an attempt to justify the amounts of meds they prescribed MJ.

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Hey rpg2:

Well of course MJ bears responsibility for how he managed his own life but just 'imagine' if you will: You exist & have always existed in a rather 'over-protected bubble' from the rest of the world. You've had a number of medical 'procedures' where you put your life repeatedly in the hands of physicians who said to you, "trust me. I'll take good care of you. All will be well". Then it seems that they DO take good care of you for many years as nothing bad has ever happened & the outcome from their medical 'treatment' has always been a positive one. I would think you would come to view 'all doctors' as TRUSTWORTHY & would begin to let your guard down & place your life unquestioningly in their hands. Therefore, if a doc tells you that what they are prescribing is 'safe', you accept that at face value. If they say to you, "This is the medication that will take care of your problem"- Can you NOT imagine that Michael Jackson would have come to believe this? Especially if he WANTED TO BELIEVE IT? Denial is a very powerful thing & DOES 'play tricks' with the mind-anyone's mind. Bear in mind, 'we' did not live in the 'world of reality' as Michael Jackson knew it did we? These doctors made it pretty hard for Michael Jackson to come to grips with the fact that what he was doing was gambling with his life in using Propofol in the manner in which he was. Keep in mind he'd used it as far back as the mid 90's.

This is why I feel so strongly that Dr.Neil Ratner should suffer just as harsh consequences for his actions as Dr.Murray since HE no doubt started this whole Diprivan thing to begin with. Yet he 'escapes' the consequences of his actions. Perhaps had HE told Michael Jackson 'NO' to begin with, he would still be here? What if HE had said, "This is 'anesthesia' & is NOT a 'sleep aid' Michael. It should NEVER BE GIVEN OUTSIDE A HOSPITAL & I will not be any part of this"! That is what he SHOULD have done had he had any decency or any 'ethics' whatsoever but he didn't. Instead, he introduced Michael to the drug that would eventually kill him. Not only 'introduced' him to it but travelled with him & administered it REPEATEDLY giving Michael Jackson a very FALSE sense of security that once again...."all would be well" & implanting the idea that this medication was 'safe'.

'We', the general public can simply walk about saying to ourselves, "Well 'I' wouldn't have done such a foolish thing". Thing is, 'we' don't know WHAT we would have done when we had physicians at our beck & call telling us all would be well, "Trust me". 'We' certainly shouldn't be so QUICK to pass judgement on someone elses situation when 'we' don't know or understand the specifics of that situation, what they were told by these doctors, all the assurances they handed Michael Jackson in exchange for monetary gain? None of us know what it was like to live inside MJ's own 'skin' do we? In Michaels world: Money bought 'safety & security'. What he didn't understand is unfortunately, when it comes to 'medical care', that's the one area where there is an exception to the rule that 'money buys you the very best'. In the medical world, money will only buy you the 'greediest physician most willing to break the law & violate the standards of their practice they agreed to when they became a doctor'.

Your statement:

at what point do you blame michael jackson for being a ****ing crack head. this is bull ****. he chose to take this ****

certainly implies that we should PUNISH all the addicts, yet allow the 'drug dealers' to continue doing what they do every day without any legal consequences whatsoever? What is the difference between these doctors who 'over-prescribed' to Michael Jackson & the dealers out on the street corners?
An 'addict' is a prisoner of their own disease & and 'dealers' are those who take advantage of them.

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janalal4    

This doctor will never go to jail just like michael jackson didnt go to jail..isnt that like that karma crap you Rabid fans(tmz words not mine) are always talking about..Im not saying he molested kids but he obviously gave them wine and had porn in the house around kids.

Posted at 4:22 AM on Jul 29, 2010 by electriczipper

Where did you get this information? That Michael Jackson gave children alcohol? What 'evidence' do you have of this?

Btw-how many PARENTS have 'porn' in their own homes around children? I can think of a number of them in my own neighborhood. Just how many grown men do YOU know that have their little 'porn stashes' hidden in the house where their own children reside & where their childrens friends come & play? Please.

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