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Mel vs. Oksana -- Where Do You Stand?

8/1/2010 10:45 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

It's gut check time -- you've seen and heard some of the evidence ... so how do you feel about the nine critical questions?

Mel Gibson & Oksana



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16.

JusttheFacts    

Here's a recording I found about an hour ago. It's the Good Morning America
segment where Robin Roberts interviews Arlo West, the forensic audio expert.

Mr. West says that all of the tapes were definitely altered. He then goes into some
detail pointing out the edits and the type of microphone used by Oksana Grigorieva
when she recorded the tapes. He also discusses how all the edits can be found. He
said that the tapes were definitely done by a professional. "She had some help making
these tapes."

July 15, 2010

Audio Experts Believe Mel Gibson Tapes Were Altered

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBx_la8ITwg&feature=related

1454 days ago
17.

JusttheFacts    

Oksana Grigorieva apparent sole means of acquiring money is through lawsuits:

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Grigorieva's 2009 lawsuit against a webhosting company where she alleged netted over $100K
http://images.eonline.com/static/news/pdf/gibsongirl.pdf

Gibson's girlfriend sues website

Oksana Grigorieva has launched a lawsuit accusing DreamHost.com of "cyber squatting". -- PHOTO: AFP
LOS ANGELES - ACTOR

Mel Gibson's girlfriend is suing a web domain provider for setting up a site that claims she is carrying twins, media reported on Friday.

A furious Oksana Grigorieva has launched a lawsuit accusing DreamHost.com of "cyber squatting".

The Russian singer wants at least US$120,000 (S$173,543) in damages, according to court do***ents obtained by Australian newspaper, The Daily Telegraph.

"The defendants have misappropriated and used the domain name in a blatant effort to impersonate and exploit the name, photograph, likeness and persona of internationally renowned model, pianist, musical composer and performer Oksana Grigorieva," the do***ents say. -- AP

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Lifestyle/Story/STIStory_386393.html

1454 days ago
18.

JusttheFacts    

Big surprise: Oxsana Grigorieva climbed up the ladder of wealth moving quickly from Grammy award winning songwriter/producer David Foster to Mel Gibson.


5/18/2009 10:30 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

"...By the way, Oksana is living in a house Mel got for her. And guess what else? Until recently, Oksana was living in a house purchased by songwriter/producer David Foster, with whom she also had a relationship."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/05/18/mel-gibson-oksana-grigorieva-robyn-pregnant-divorce-child/#comments-anchor

1454 days ago
19.

JusttheFacts    

It is easy to look back now and note that Mel Gibson has been duped but it still is rather shocking to read:
Excerpt from the London Telegraph:

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Mel Gibson's girlfriend accused of being 'opportunist'

Published: 10:00PM BST 02 May 2009

"...Oksana's presence on the arm of the actor has, however, come as little surprise to her former boyfriend Alan Bergman, who accuses her of being an 'opportunist'..."


By Richard Eden

Published: 10:00PM BST 02 May 2009

"...The American businessman lived with the 39-year-old Russian singer for two years in a flat off Sloane Square, but says she abandoned him for Timothy Dalton, the actor who played James Bond.

'We were practically married,' he tells Mandrake.

'I brought her parents over and her sister from Russia a few times. She was an exceptionally beautiful young woman who was very talented and I was very much in love, but she got a better offer from Timothy Dalton.'

Bergman, who was a ballet dancer before he founded the clothing manufacturer Dans-ez, says:

'We were together for two years. We met through a Russian ballet teacher. She had come to the country as an au pair and she was trying to get a visa to stay.

She married this guy and they were living in a council house. She then met me and I was far better off and had more money and had a better life. She left him and she moved in with me. I didn't ask her to. At some point she divorced him and I signed some papers.

She then met Timothy Dalton at a party we went to. I was working for Pathé at the time. Within a week, she had moved in with him and I never saw her again. She was a very lovely girl, but a bit of an opportunist. Many Russian young women are. She came from a tiny town. If she's happy, then good for her.

I am now married to a wonderful woman and have an eight-year-old daughter, Alexia.'

Bergman, who declines to disclose his age, adds of Miss Grigorieva:

'If she is with Mel, he is more famous than Timothy Dalton and who knows what that will mean. Maybe she will get in to a film and that will thrill her...' "

Read the entire article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mandrake/5262972/Mel-Gibsons-girlfriend-accused-of-being-opportunist.html

1454 days ago
20.

fuddyduddy    

JusttheFacts...on post 14 you can also include that Ox claimed that she didn't have anyone to look after the children so she could go to the doctor isn't right either. She has her mother her, doesn't she? Ox has not had trouble finding someone to look after the children when she was recording her second as yet unreleased CD, or going to red carpte events, or flying to Russia. She was in Russia when it was announced that she and Mel split and stated that that Lucia was in Sherman Oaks with her mother. But yet she wants us to believe that she had no one to look after the children when she needed to go to the doctor after the alleged assault.

1454 days ago
21.

sam    

Verbal abuse is not physical abuse. He should have been punished for the DUI, he was and he dried out. He is no angel and I am not a fan in particular. But you lose ALL credibility in my book when you try your case in the tabloid press!!!!!!!!!!!

If she was afraid for her life, why would she pick up his repeated threatening calls. She kept answering to get more ammunition for blackmail. nobody would subject themselves to those verbal assaults unless they had an agenda.

CLEARLY, this woman lacks judgement and restraint she can't even follow a judge's gag order.

SNEAKY too...never disclosing to the judge that their had been prior mediation angering the judge for lack of disclosure. She selectively presents what she wants to the press.

Frankly, he invested 5 million in her music and bought her a house and car and was going to give her 15 million and pay child support. But she wanted more. Hmmm.

Frankly in this day and age (and I say this as a woman) if you are already getting $5,000 a month for your first child and your current lover hit you you have no excuse not to go to the police or call 911. The police take these calls seriously now. She is not dependent on Mel for $. He was willing to provide support. Any caring mother would take off with her child, cut off all contact and go to work to pay for the pampers and formula the baby needs at that point. He was paying for a nanny already.

Frankly I am suspicious of her true motives. Especially because she went ahead and had her sister release the illegal tapes AFTER the judge ordered her not to. Her attorney certainly wouldn't risk that??

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1454 days ago
22.

RIP    

Oksana is nothing but a skanky whore who will be made fun of around the world for her stupidity.

1454 days ago
23.

Cazale    

Mel used vulgar language and hateful phrases, but he was accurate in his description of her.
Those who defend women's rights, and abused women themselves, should be offended how she's lying, extorting and taking advantage of such an important issue.
WHY CALL A LAWYER INSTEAD OF COPS?
-she claimed she feared for her life.
WHY GO TO A DENTIST FOR COSMETICS & NOT A PEDIATRICIAN FOR ALLEGEDLY STRUCK BABY?
-she said Mel's blow was enough to "blacken" her eyes and "break" her teeth -same "blow" that she claims struck the baby.
WHY DO THE PHOTOS SHOW NO INJURIES?
-bottom teeth: fine, lips: bogus but no injury, no bruises, no contusions, no abrasions, no cuts, no punctures, no scratches, no scrapes =NO INJURIES.
-A cosmetic prodecure temple shot of a vericose vein falsely touted as a fist-impact wound (forceful enough to "break veneers") shows up, a ---picture of a baby's chin with a milk-pimple falsely touted as a "blow" to the baby's face "by Mel".
DUBBED/SPLICED/DOCTORED/ALTERED TAPES
-if her story were at all true, why the need to edit the tapes and re-work her speaking role?
-if she had time to set about recording, why did she not have time to call the police (after all, she said she "feared for her life")
-and if she did fear for her life and taped him due to that -why did she not turn the tapes over to the police the next day, week or month even?
WHY DID ROL AND OX SET UP FAKED INTERVIEW?
-what is rol trying to hide or smoothy over with such planted and decisive questions?
-Why the need to fake that it is impromtu?
-Why were both inteviewers using the same camera?
-Note Ox saying "okay, now this is important ..."(1.34 mark) revealing (aside from her bad acting and shamelessly canned Q&A) that she had almost forgot and misplaced her intended talkng-point.
-Note Ox repeating all the classic quotes of abuse she's recently gleaned "I am being victimized all over again" -not from the tapes being revealed, no no no -but because of the bloggers doubting her story and now wants to manipulate bloggers the same as she tried with TMZ/Harvey Levin.

Good gawd, this is just an endless list of WTF's, and lies on her part -and the above is just a small fraction.
Complete deception on her part, all the way.

1454 days ago
24.

sam    

I think Oksana has lost a lot of sympathy (forget the editing/tampering with evidence) because over 50% of americans have divorced and understand the incredible range of emotions during a nasty split, often much worse when children are involved.

Look at how inflammatory things become between posters on these sites. I was just accused of being "spawn from his first marriage" or "a wacky member of his congregation" by a ROL poster. Neither is true and this was in response to the above post. Ridiculous levels of anger are developing between unrelated posters who should be able to "hear" other peoples' responses objectively and then post a civil response if their opinion happens to disagree. The mud is flinging ... between uninvolved posters. One can imagine the level of anger then when betrayal, money, ego and custody is involved.

1454 days ago
25.

Bubba    

Oksana is going to flip out when she sees the results of this poll. Overall it doesn't look good for her.

1454 days ago
26.

JusttheFacts    

@ fuddyduddy

20.

JusttheFacts...on post 14 you can also include that Ox claimed that she didn't have anyone to look after the children so she could go to the doctor isn't right either. She has her mother her, doesn't she? Ox has not had trouble finding someone to look after the children when she was recording her second as yet unreleased CD, or going to red carpte events, or flying to Russia. She was in Russia when it was announced that she and Mel split and stated that that Lucia was in Sherman Oaks with her mother. But yet she wants us to believe that she had no one to look after the children when she needed to go to the doctor after the alleged assault.

Posted at 2:42 AM on Jul 31, 2010 by fuddyduddy
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Fuddyduddy

That's a very good point Fuddyduddy. Nothing in any of her
excuses or stories are consistent.

1454 days ago
27.

Beaucoupx    

Really? I have to wonder exactly what TMZ's agenda is in all of this! Read the site for a long time and have appreciated the honest, amusing, unbiased reporting. TMZ's reporting of this saga has been, in my opinion, so blatantly biased as to be shocking. He hit, her. He left the most racist, misogynistic, disrespectful rants on her voicemail. He told her that no one would believe her because he had the power. His lawyers have not made any claims that the tapes were altered. Does anyone really think that they would not have sued if the tapes were actually altered?

He has 3 law firms on retainer but none of them have claimed that the tapes were altered. Instead we have random posters hiding behind anonymity making the claims. Of course it would never occur to anyone that the rabidly pro Mel posts were made by people on his payroll. I don't care if she was the bathsheeba, he is clearly an abusive, racist guy with serious issues. I've been through and observed the most acrimonious divorces, relationships etc. without ever witnessing anything like this. There is no justification for his behavior.

1454 days ago
28.

Beaucoupx    

Really? I have to wonder exactly what TMZ's agenda is in all of this! Read the site for a long time and have appreciated the honest, amusing, unbiased reporting. TMZ's reporting of this saga has been, in my opinion, so blatantly biased as to be shocking. He hit, her. He left the most racist, misogynistic, disrespectful rants on her voicemail. He told her that no one would believe her because he had the power. His lawyers have not made any claims that the tapes were altered. I don't care if she was the bathsheeba, he is clearly an abusive guy with serious issues. There is no justification for his behavior.

1454 days ago
29.

lisa2    


Why was Oksana contemplating civil litigation against Mel recently, BEFORE FILING a crimial complaint or filing even a police report.

Her thought process and motivations are pretty clear; at least to me.

1454 days ago
30.

Bubba    

I believe Mel because he has the power and I'm getting paid! Woot!

1454 days ago
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