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Conrad Murray Wrongful Death Suit Tossed ... Almost

8/6/2010 7:15 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Dr. Conrad Murray could be temporarily off the hook in the federal wrongful death lawsuit involving Michael Jackson -- all because Joe Jackson left some key information out of the paperwork.

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TMZ has learned a federal judge is taking Jackson and his attorney Brian Oxman to task for failing to specify where two of the defendants -- health clinics where Dr. Murray practiced -- conduct their business.  Without that information the judge can't determine if the federal court has jurisdiction over the case.

The judge has given Jackson one week to amend the complaint or have the suit tossed.

Even if this case is dismissed, Dr. Murray might not be fully in the clear. Jackson has a lot of options -- including refiling the federal suit with Murray as the lone defendant.


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301.

Cherwood    

Papa can you hear me = Pt. 2........
-#130: Hey HumanNature you are my hero on this one--GON'GIRL!!
Murray should be charged VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER or MURDER 2!! It's not just that he was negligent--leaving his patient unattended, but by giving Michael the Propofol, be committed n unlawful act since he claims he was trying to WEAN MICHAEL OFF THE PROPOFOL--this says he considered Michael AN ADDICT and it's ILLEGAL to give drugs to a KNOWN ADDICT, and it says he considered administering the Propofol to be a high degree of risk of death. Also, he administered the Propofol in an inappropriate setting which means what he committed the act without due caution and cir***spection.
Based on these penal codes, there is no question that Murray is guilty and should be charged with MURDER 2--VOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER!!!
Thanks for posting this HN, we need to revisit it to get ready for 8/23!!
-#142: Hey Daphne! I answered you on the other board. Thanks for the great link of cute and gorgeous Michael!! Here's another rare commercial for Thriller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErNWUdHG_U&feature=fvw
-#155: Hey Chico! He put up Nicole Alvarez--the same hootchie who was subpoenaed by the Grand Jury--in a house nearby Michael's and stayed with her according to reports. Not sure if she spent the night at Holmsby, but I know she was receiving shipments of Propofol at her house as someone posted. At least she said enough to the Grand Jury to get Murray charged, but now that he bills are being paid, I doubt she'll be saying anything but good about him...
-#162, 63, et.al: Gosh HumanNature, You are taking no prisoners on this one. I like it. I like it ALOT!!
-#163: Human, the only thing I've read about Blanche Murray is that some consider her "PuppetMaster" of sorts behind Murray. Some were even saying that Murray wasn't considered an actual doctor more so than Blanche was. Not sure what was meant by that other than maybe they were referring to his frequent failure to renew his license over the years...
As for Murray being a drug dealer, a poster on here who is from the Houston area stated that Murray is more likely a pill pusher because that office in Houston he worked out of was known for a place you could go to get the meds you needed with no worries....
-#172: That's the thing SIggisis. I remember we were all waiting for him to say he was sorry that he made a mistake, btu he won't say that because that's not what he agreed to do. That alone is proof that he had others in with him--at this point, what would he have to lose by coming clean? But he won't because the whole thing was premeditated...it may have been something he and the others decided to do on the fly, but it's still murder...plain and simple.......
-#166 and 175: Hey Alice and FlowerPower! Thanks so much for posting that letter. I especially got blurry on the part you re-posted Flower........simply BEAUTIFUL and so MICHAEL-ESQUE!!!
-#184: Barb, of course she will...her and the baby are being fully taken care of to make sure of that......
-#187: HumanNature, you are TOO funny--LOVE IT!!
Dr Death has commitment issues with women, PERIOD!!!!
-#214: Kudos Human Nature, the VOICE OF REASON on these boards!!
-#225: Siggisis, LOVED this one:
Leave Dr. Murray alone.
Posted at 12:21 PM on Aug 7, 2010 by Zoe#1
UH, No!
-#232: Hey Pegasus! Sent one back atcha on the other board. BTW, you're right, I think it was a Stripper he supposedly brought into Michael's home--one more reason to consider him a JERK!
The babymama--Nicole, lived nearby and according to reports, he frequently spent the night with her over her house.....probably when he was SUPPOSED to be watching Michael........
-#256: Thanks for the link Hannah! I will definitely check it out asap....
-#299: Good point, Siggisis and I think he omitted that on purpose--because he was out to make a point, much like many others I could name...
It is well known that Taraborelli has postured his way into being considered Michael's "go to" biographer based on the book he wrote which contained nothing that hasn't been found in Michael's "Moonwalk" autobiography, and other publications. He is not too far from the level of Halperin and his ilk.
In other words, HIS WORDS MEAN LITTLE MORE THAN THE REST OF THE MEDIA/TABLOIDS!!
-#305: HumanNature, you are SO kicking butt tonight--I LOVE IT!! It's so easy to just look at Murray--who has already been charged, and yak about how he did it and why--WHO CARES?? We've aready been over his involvement forwards and backwards, and when his trial comes up, the details about him will follow...
MEANWHILE BACK AT THE RANCH....
There are others who are just as involved in Michael's death who are walking around freely without worry of exposure, thanks to the Media's Spin that Murray was a "poor, bumbling doctor" who got caught up with a demanding, willful celeb and gave into his requests to help him.
WHATEVER.......
.....................SIZZLING...............................

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302.

Cherwood    

Papa can you hear me - Pt. 3.........
-#307: Daphne, Gotham and Deepak Chopra are both FULL OF IT!! They both CLAIM to have written many of Michael's songs from History era, but there is NO WAY!!
Michael always gave credit to anyone who had a part in his CD'S. CHeck out "Invincible" and you'll see co-writers were given credit there so why would be fail to credit them.
And they were the first to jump on the MJ Media bandwagon after he died to sell their story on him. ANd they were SUPPOSED to be Michael's friends. IMO, Deepak is nothing but a FAKE and Gotham is a LIAR. It's just a shame such a good name was wasted on him......
-#309: Siggisis, funny how everyone else can see this with the exception of a few because it doesn't fit into the line of BULL they're pushing......
-#312,313: Daphne, don't believe that for a minute. It's what Murray and his people WANT you to believe. Not only is Murray being bought and paid for, but so is his babymamas. It's also why he probably has one of the longest home foreclosures in history!!!
They are paying his bills to keep him quiet and cooperative.....for OBVIOUS REASONS!!
-#328: Brigha--another great post! You and HumanNature were really on a roll on this one.
I had the same impression of CHopra, the minute he came on the news programs he was ranting about Michael and drugs and what SHOULD'VE been done. MY question was, WHY DIDN'T HE DO IT?
The answer is simple: because he wasn't around to. From what I've read, Michael was NOT in touch with him after the 90's so he had NO CLUE what MIchael was going through. He pulled that "Demerol" rabbit out of his hat when everyone knows that was an issue for Michael in the early to mid 90's. There is no proof that he was ADDICTED to it after that. Unless you believe that BS Klein was spouting about giving MIchael hundreds of Demerol injections in his office. If he did that in the months before he died, why did the COroner's report say that his body showed NO SIGNS OF DRUG ABUSE??
BTW: I also remember reading that Michael had to keep the TV or noise in his room to sleep. I remember because I do the same thing. I think it was dateline that had the reenactment of 6/25/09 with the MJ Impersonator--they said it on that show and showed the TV playing the whole time.......
-#345: Brigha, where Karen Faye is concerned there's just something about her that doesn't ring true. And when I ever heard that she was the one who gave TMZ those pics for inside the Mausoleum, I was through!!! She does a lot of talking, yet says nothing. ON that INterview with 20/20, she yakked so much the costumers couldn't get a word in....
And as for her work, I think she did a good job when making Michael up for stills, but I think she tended to be heavy handed when it came to live, video or film performances. IMO, she was just another sycophant in Michael's life who instead of helping him, simply went along with what she thought would make him happy, which ended up being a disservice to him...
I think it's true that she may have been more interested in him, romantically, than as an employer.
BTW: His Veronica Lake look? HILARIOUS!!!
-#353: Brigha, this post is so beautiful it made me blurry--great way to end the night....Michael would've been so proud!!
Cher
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!!

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303.

r.schildt    

The devil is in the details--I want to address my point to this
and particularly to danger-baby´s and Kimmies points re dr murrays phonecalls ,the background noises.I have not had the possibility to listen to these, but there is another DETAIL in
murray´s story, weather thruth or lie that goes so torally against all intuitive and rational coduct during risky medical proceedures. He said that he gave Michael a small dose of propofol and then went to the bathroom for 2 minutes.Now giving anybody a dose of an anestetic is always a risky proceedure
and requies contionuous observation for a good time.ANYBODY
familiar with this would go to the bathroom First so he can give
the patient 100% attention unen***bered by a full bladder.I think even murray knows this, which only goes to show it was yet another lie.--Imprtant stuff about the backgruond noises, hope LAPD pays attention to that.

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304.

HumanNature    

#163: Human, the only thing I've read about Blanche Murray is that some consider her "PuppetMaster" of sorts behind Murray. Some were even saying that Murray wasn't considered an actual doctor more so than Blanche was. Not sure what was meant by that other than maybe they were referring to his frequent failure to renew his license over the years...


WOW, that's NEWS TO MY EYES!!!!

If this is true then she got me in her corner!!!

FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL as PUPPETMASTER WOULD SAY FROM THE BEGINNING!!!!

I would love to know who is actually paying Dr Death child support (back and present) vacation, lawyer(s), PR, security, medical license,default loans, mortgage, car note, travel and the list goes on!!!!

Who ever is paying knows a lot about MJ death, I do believe.

MJ's death is NOT just an accidental, careless drug over dose but a MURDER-FOR-HIRE!!!

MJ said it HIMSELF THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL HIM!!!!

WHO ARE THEY????

Somebody with deep pockets is using, spinning and spoon feeding that "DRUG ADDICT BS STORY" TO THE FULLEST TO THE PUBLIC!!!!

People don't realize that PEOPLE will set you up, used and kill you over ANYTHING!!!

It's apparent that Dr Death tried to stage and cover-up the murder scene.

Well, it did not work!!!

MJ's autopsy report shows that he had "Punctures and contusions of right neck, both arms, left ankle, and right ankle".

We already know that MJ was moved from one room to another but could it be possible that MJ was held down against his will and his body was injected with a full dose of Propofol after his death???

Also, could it be plausible that Dr Death or someone put needle marks on an deceased MJ to make it look like he was addicted to drugs when in FACT the only drugs found in his system was Propofol, lorzepam, midazolam, lidocaine, diazepam and nordiazepam????

SMOKE SCREEN!!!

COVER-UP!!!

DO NOT LOOK LIKE A DRUG ADDICT TO ME BUT A MURDER-FOR-HIRE!!!!

Lastly, WHERE IS TOHME TOHME???

He just disappear from the face of the earth and no one seems to know where he is!!!!

NOT EVEN TMZ!!!

Now, that's who I really believe killed MJ and Dr Death is just the GREEDY, STUPID FALL GUY!!!

TOHME TOHME CONNECTION TO AEG/COLONY CAPITAL, RESEARCH IT!!!

MONEY!! MONEY!! MONEY!!!

SOMEBODY WITH BIG, BIG and LOTS OF MONEY!!!

MURDER-FOR-HIRE ORDERS FROM AEG AND COLONY CAPITAL ARE OPERATING IN THE DARK/SHADOWS!!!!

PEOPLE WITH MONEY ARE MUCH MORE EVIL, SINISTER AND FAR WORSE THAN PEOPLE WITH NO MONEY!!!!

I posted an recent article on another story about MJ that Colony Capital is trying to make Neverland a CA National Park. They already submitted paper work for the project.

Nobody picked up or commented on that article.

People need to pay attention and just FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL!!!

Remember, MJ is worth more DEAD THAN ALIVE AND A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PROFITING FROM HIS DEATH!!!

Don't forget to FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!

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305.

HumanNature    

#163: Human, the only thing I've read about Blanche Murray is that some consider her "PuppetMaster" of sorts behind Murray. Some were even saying that Murray wasn't considered an actual doctor more so than Blanche was. Not sure what was meant by that other than maybe they were referring to his frequent failure to renew his license over the years...

Posted at 8:37 AM on Aug 9, 2010 by danger baby

This is MAJOR NEWS TO ME!!!!

I must have missed that one from the beginning when PuppetMaster would show up with those riddles!!

lol

Thanks to ALL for keeping it REAL!!!!

I enjoy researching, reading and learning new info surrounding the death of MJ and all the pros and cons of the investigation.

PLEASE KEEP POSTING!!!!

PEACE

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306.

Daphne     

There are a lot of lessons to be learnt from the way society destroyed its most gifted son. It astonishes me that MJ, despite his exemplary record as a humanitarian, could be destroyed by a MERE ALLEGATION. In turn, the publics craving for celebrity scandal, turned his life into a media feeding frenzy. The whole situation was nothing short of gladatorial.

The legal system failed him terribly. Despite winning his case, he still lost everything; his career, his home, his reputation, his self esteem, his financial standing, his animals and almost his children.

Most of his fortune seemed to be eaten up in legal fees, paying lawyers to defend bogus legal claims.
He was close to bankruptcy and was forced into a nomadic lifestyle.

IMO, Murray may have dealt the final blow, but society destroyed Michael Jackson a long time ago.

Posted at 1:40 AM on Aug 9, 2010 by Brigha from UK

Very nice post. Yes, the Michael Jackson story is a sad story. I love you, Michael Jackson, RIP.

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307.

SaraJane    

@363 - Posted at 8:57 AM on Aug 9, 2010 by danger baby

Quote - paragraph above post - " Poor Taraborelli. He has no idea what he is in for from the GREAT GASBAG CHERWOOD's smear campaign. He toils away in his little corner of Los Angeles, producing books that sell around the world, receives awards and accolades for his research and perspective, but a but a chimp with a keyboard has free reign to call him a liar and a faker'' -Unquote..
I believe the above reference to 'Chimp with a keyboard ' to be Derogatory & very Racist TO ANYONE no matter who they are - especially in this day & age.
I don't wish to get in between this war of words that seems to to be declared on Cher, I'm not here a lot but when I am here, I enjoy reading her posts etc as I did yours, - a lot of regular posters here do too, but there's a good deal taken out of context IMO & the above reference is shameful to say the least..
Michael, if he were here wouldn't appreciate it either.. of that I am sure! Life is way too short, stop wasting valuable time, because reading the above post & some others is really not pleasent at all.

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308.

Annie-I'm-NOT-okay    

366. WillOTheWisp

I agree with everything you say....salvation does come to us through Jesus Christ.

Our dear Jesus, in His great love as He took His last breath and Mary and St. John were standing at the foot of the Cross, said to St. John "Behold your Mother", and to Mary, "Behold your Son".

Those last and most important words of Jesus, showed that He would not leave us alone. We all need a Heavenly mother and prayer to Mary is a powerful form of prayer.

If you look at the first Miracle of Jesus, the Marriage Feast of Cana, you can see how it was Mary who told Jesus that they had no more wine, and although he replied that His hour had not yet come, He was obliged through love to fix that problem. She told the guests "Do whatever He tells you". And the guests said "they have saved the best till last".

My prayer for Michael continues that he will find comfort, light and peace in the arms of Jesus.

Requiscant in pace Michael.

Annie

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309.

mjdevotion    

is this guy really gonna get away with killing MJ! WTF!

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310.

Pegasus    

To #353 - Brigha from the UK - I love the post you made. I feel the same way also! But I love how you stated it, you took the words right out of my mouth! And I could not agree with you more on that. Have a lovely day/evening.

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311.

KENNY    

'' I TOLD THE TRUUUT '' LMAO HE WS LYING THEN . WHERE DID THAT AFRICAN ACCENT COME FROM ??

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312.

Pegasus    

To Danger Baby - I left a message on the Nazi board for you. I seriously doubt that I will be able to make it back again, it has just become way too hard for me to find many of these different boards. But I did want to let you know it was there for you. Also, let me say, I would not be the least bit surprised at anything that the dirt bag did - if you know what I mean! Have a good one! And my many, many thanks. Love, Peace and Happiness

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313.

HumanNature    

danger baby

I totally understand!!!

Peace

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314.

Mimi from Indy    

'' I TOLD THE TRUUUT '' LMAO HE WS LYING THEN . WHERE DID THAT AFRICAN ACCENT COME FROM ??

Posted at 5:36 PM on Aug 9, 2010 by KENNY
_________________________________________________________

Kenny ~ Just for the Record, Conrad Murray was born in St. Andrews, Grenada. He was not from Africa. But you are right he most definitely lying!

Link to his bio:

www.biography.com/articles/Dr.-Conrad-Murray-481814/

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315.

SaraJane    

DB. - Posted at 1:46 PM on Aug 9, 2010 by danger baby

Ok back for just a little while.. Sorry took so long..anyway..

Cher did not refer to / quote you at all in her last post as far as I can see. From what I have been reading I didn't see derogatory references like as you say ''she referred to me as Gutter Duty''
She didn't refer to YOU at all, that was an Inference, she continued on to what she wanted to talk about next..

From what I can see in the first post you posted after Cher's ended with this - #362 - THE KEYBOARD DIARRHEA AWARD.... & continued with if anyone cares to look again.. ''What a BUSY, BUSY (AND VERY TINY) LITTLE BRAIN. She doesn't reply to posts like some people do here,& thats fine, but when she does its in bulk to posts that obviously she found intereseting..It doesn't matter if she posts 3 or 10 long posts, its the CONTENT that matters...
Then You said-
''As to racism, I have used that expression many times, both humorously and otherwise, and it never occurred to me that a black person looks any more like a chimp than many of the white people I know. I could care less what color she is; I don't like her screaming banshee tone. And I WILL take her to task as long as she continues to name me in her posts. When she quits, so will I, and not until.''


As a white person ie - Me- it Has never occured to ME that a white person looks any more like a chimp than any of the black people that I know...........humorously and otherwise!
I dont get the screaming banshee tone you say. Dont get the 'attacks' either.
Guess on the other hand, if you prefer to continue to persue these silly games, Cher will give as get as good as she gets too, I sincerely hope this stops. As Michael said ''Get it togetha...or leave it alone'' - Look that one up! x

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