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Mel Gibson --

Domestic Violence

Not on His Mind

9/28/2010 11:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Mel Gibson and his legal team were not trying to suppress evidence of domestic violence when they agreed to pay Oksana Grigorieva and Lucia approximately $15 million in return for the destruction of "evidence" -- they were trying to prevent the destruction of Gibson's image  ... sources connected with the mediation tell TMZ.

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Oksana's current legal team claims the mediation agreement is not binding because lawyers cannot agree to destroy evidence of a crime.

But here's the rub: Sources tell us the photograph of Oksana -- showing what appears to be either teeth or veneers missing -- was not part of the deal.

Sources tell us Mel and his lawyers never thought domestic violence was even an issue.  As we first reported ... Mel's team claims Oksana and her lawyer made it clear -- the $15 million was a payout to keep the racial and other disgusting remarks Mel made on the tapes secret forever.

We've learned Oksana's lawyer said in the mediation that photographs of Oksana's mouth existed, but when it came time to define "evidence" that would be destroyed, the photos were not included. So the argument goes ... if Mel was trying to destroy evidence of domestic violence, why didn't he demand Oksana hand over the photos?

 

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46.

Who'sThat    

- because she had teeth problems from natural causes?
- because she wanted new veneers so dentist took photos?

so Mel was aware that photos of veneer-less mouth existed but not from dv and so accusation of dv was the furthest thing from Mel's mind.

Posted at 1:57 AM on Sep 28, 2010 by garnet

i agree with you...i think Mel knew of its existence...for what reason? maybe OG showing Mel what happened at some time? so Mel did not know she was going to use the photo as evidence against him, just that OG had a pic like that...makes sense to me!

1401 days ago
47.

Who'sThat    

If they were not aware, how comes then:

We've learned Oksana's lawyer said in the mediation that photographs of Oksana's mouth existed, but when it came time to define "evidence" that would be destroyed, the photos were not included. So the argument goes ... if Mel was trying to destroy evidence of domestic violence, why didn't he demand Oksana hand over the photos?

Posted at 1:44 AM on Sep 28, 2010 by Sorntolc

absolutely, ask yourself that question...IF Mel and his attorneys were trying to destroy all the "evidence" of DV, why did they not try to obtain that pic also? her it comes...BECAUSE, Mel was not worried at all about DV...it didn't even enter his mind she was going to use the pic to charge him since there was never a DV.

IF Mel even asked for that pic during the mediation to "cover up" for DV, i am sure OG would be yelling to us about it...but we do not hear any claims by OG team that Mel wanted the pic during the mediation.

1401 days ago
48.

BrAnBa    

I can only agree with what most of the posts here have already said: that photo had nothing to do with domestic violence - therefore it was never an issue for Mel and his lawyer.

Give up, Oksana.

Team Mel, Sweden

1401 days ago
49.

Jenny    

You're at the essence of this entire thing here, this is what really gets my goat: what is the public to do? At what point is the state, city and government authorities supposed to come and look after the victims of this?? It's up to us, thats who's responsible, you and I. If he was a raging maniac like her lawyer states then why was she using her baby as human shield. Her poor defenseless baby is her only defense against some karate trained ninja coming at her?? If this woman is using infants as a shield against attackers then yes we need to come in and stop all of it. We need to stop her from harming her kids. She is an unfit mother is she is using her infant children as shields against her sex partners.
This is the very reason for having societal laws, we protect the innocent, it's up to us to protect that baby she is putting in harms way. I am sorry for putting this ugly ugly picture in your mind but this is the core issue. The woman Oksana is asking for the help of her government against a man that she claims attacked her. Our duty predetermined by our founding fathers is to come to her aid. The problem is there is no evidence of what she claims.
When a person is attacked by anyone they immediately go to the police, if they sustain any injuries they immediately goto the hospital. The first thing any sane human being wants when being attacked is legal aid, before even a doctor, they want to sue, it's human nature. Oksana did not go to the police, she did not goto the hospital and from what we can tell she did not seek legal counsel directly after what she claimed to have happened.
It's appalling to me to imagine watching a woman be attacked by a grown man as she holds a baby up blocking the attack, it makes me sick, yet this is what Oksana claims. None of what she states makes any sense to me.
It's very difficult to find the facts. In order to present a case against Mel Gibson there must be facts, not opinions, not heresay and no truth just fact. Just evidence. Any evidence that would lock him up in a heartbeat vanishes the longer she takes to go to the authorities. At the very least if this did happen she has a responisbility as a mother to report her kid being hit, the instant it happens, thats her job as a mother. If this did happen and she did not report this to the authorities immediately then her kids need to be taken from her because she does not have their best interest at heart, she doesn't care for them at all. It is disgusting to imagine she had her infant beat on by full grown man and she did not take the child to the hospital and call the authorities to protect that child, it sickens me to no end.
These are some of the reasons I do not believe what I read about this, it doesn't make sense. There are no facts here, it's all just nonesense. We're at the point where her law team is making it's case on a gossip website, it's incredibly offensive. We're being told by a lawyer we can't discuss his case in the privacy of our own homes, a case that he has no evidence for. The whole thing is absurd. I want to help, I want to be a good citizen and I want to see justice served. If a man hit a woman and a baby then I want him to goto jail. If there is no evidence then hey let's get him next time, that's the best we can do. This lawyer goes a step further, he intimidates, he threatens and he abuses his media power. His purpose and his intention is get paid doing it.

1401 days ago
50.

igotfleasfromtmz    

IF Mel even asked for that pic during the mediation to "cover up" for DV, i am sure OG would be yelling to us about it...but we do not hear any claims by OG team that Mel wanted the pic during the mediation.

Posted at 2:57 AM on Sep 28, 2010 by Who'sThat
Yes the only person who say's the photo's existed is horrorswitzle. And he is paid to do that. He is a paid media whore. My feelings.

1401 days ago
51.

igotfleasfromtmz    

Did that nagging intestinal polyop threaten again?

1401 days ago
52.

Wash. Hts. Girl    

I'm really sick of these two.

1) Mel is an anti-Semitic nut job, a bigot, and has Borderline Personality Disorder in addition to being an SOB, however, I do not believe for one moment that he struck that Russian gold-digger. Physical abusers have a history of domestic abuse. As far as I know, there has never been any mention by his ex-wife that he struck her or their children. He just screams and yells a lot. Much of which makes no sense. I know the type, a lot of threatening, but that's all. Mel is abusive, but he is also in some state of emotional turmoil. I almost feel sorry for him. She's the beatch, cold and calculating and getting from him as much as she can. If he's a narcissist, then she's the bigger narcissist and manipulator. I know the types. OK, so enough with this crap. Let Mel get help and find a way to put his life back together, and let this Orca the Killer Whale take her extortion money and let her go back to Russia and go extort some Russian billionaire. Why is she taking up so much space on all these publications? It is not interesting in the least, don't give her the time of day, who the hell is she anyway? Enough already!

1401 days ago
53.

Jenny    

Show us the police officer that photographed Oksana. Show us the date on the police report Oksana filed. Show us the receipt from the hospital. Show us the statement given by the physcian that cared for the child, that the doctor is legally supposed to provide. You can't do any of these things. There is nothing to support your claim. If what you said was factual you would have a MOUNTAIN of evidence against the most famouse and powerful movie star in hollywood. Mel Gibson himself would be a on the bandwagon helping you find justice, that's how rediculous your claim is. The folks here are right, every day you fabricate new evidence, none of it real or useful in your case. It's all just damage. It's slander. Unsubstantiated lies.

1401 days ago
54.

Michael    

Sorn,

That is great you have personal experience to base your views on, BUT, to the others on here with Domestic Violence abuse experience, either as the victim, a nurse or as I do as a state employee who handles these things, the evidence of Domestic Violence presented by Oksana do not add up!

THAT is why many of us are Team Mel or like me, TEAM TRUTH.

The evidence, even the picture of her face with the broken veneers doesn't add up. The lack of other evidence is there. And the evidence she has provided contradicts the other evidence she has provided! Just like her dentists testimony and statements. One day he says it didn't look like like she was hit and then later it does look like it. The evidence in this case is very convaluted and seems to many made up or fabricated to make a statement or a means to an end, which of course seems to be...money.

While I am not saying you are full of it, there are MANY people on here who again have personal experience with this type if issue who say there is no way this is what happened.

And the fact that Mel and his Team have never admitted and only denied the issue means something is up! Mel has the money to pay to make this go away if he chose too. But he didn't. And that is the reason, there is nothing there. And after you read where the 15 million was going, it shows it wasn't to hide stuff. It was a pretty standard settlement!

So, I will stay TEAM TRUTH, but I am pretty darn sure things are gonna come out that things were indeed made up or never happened.

TEAM TRUTH!!!

MTT

1401 days ago
55.

Jenny    

Your main evidece in your case is a cut out from an email where he asks "are you okay?". That's your evidence that you provide to the state when asked how you support your claim. If you're so certain of your case why don't you go ahead with your civil case right now? You're filling the hearts and minds of the children of our country with your ideas but you lack the convction of your intention. You're at the box swinging away widly but all you're doing is striking out, half of the swings fouled to the stands hitting the crowd. How terrible of you. You said Mel Gibson was a violent terrorist yet you gladly accept his money as your fee, how vile. There is no greater evil than you.

1401 days ago
56.

Who'sThat    

IF Mel even asked for that pic during the mediation to "cover up" for DV, i am sure OG would be yelling to us about it...but we do not hear any claims by OG team that Mel wanted the pic during the mediation.

Posted at 2:57 AM on Sep 28, 2010 by Who'sThat
Yes the only person who say's the photo's existed is horrorswitzle. And he is paid to do that. He is a paid media whore. My feelings.

Posted at 3:15 AM on Sep 28, 2010 by hellnurse

i don't keep up with Hollywood PR/Legal situations so i know nothing about these attorneys...of course, during this whole Mel vs OG i have heard that Horowitz is this big Hollywood high powered lawyer with intelligence and connections...

just want to know "where is the intelligence"? he is trying his darnest to spin this whole story with complete fabrication...it is appalling that he believes the public is such simpleton to believe all his spin...i am so offended that he believes he will blind us with his brilliance leaving all logic behind...thus far, imo, all he has tried has made him look imbecilic and OG worse for yet again another change to her story

1401 days ago
57.

Swede    

Oksana is not interesting. But Mel is. One of the greatest actors in the world has been extorted by a golddigger. Thats very intresting. I hope Mel will go on with his life and the extorter be put in jail. I cant wait for the truth to come out! Team Mel Sweden!

1401 days ago
58.

wondering    

no it was never about the money......
it was ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!
All about the money!
All about the money!

Oksana, lies without remorse, she lies without a conscience,
lies without any regard for the children, or family.

there is no crime she wouldn't commit were lyrics to her song
and now it seems she has decided to live by her own chosen words and only cares to destroy any and everyone elses lives in her conquest for the wealth and money that others have struggled and worked so hard for years to get.

she wants to go on a pr rampage to distract the public from her true nature and greed filled lust to become famous celebrity.

Oksana, you could spend millions and millions of dollars and still not sway the public to buy or bite into your black crusted pie of venom

Oksana, get used to hearing phrases like , forever more Oksana the gold-digging whore!

1401 days ago
59.

Firefly    

Good morning from Texas,

How long are they going to let this farce go on? Don't they have enough to hang her with yet? Why the judge lets this go on day after day is besides me. Not everyone goes on these sites and do not have the whole story. They hear Oxys side and not Mel's side. Now they want to go on Oprah or some other show and once again it will be one sided. This is not fair. How are they able to get away with this? In fact, how are they getting away with a lot of stuff they are doing? I have never seen a more screwed up judicial system than what they have in California. I have never been so angry before about a story, but this is just so wrong.This will give other gold diggers ideas, the longer this goes on. The only thing is they will know what not to do to win their case. The Judge needs to step in and shut those idiots up.

1401 days ago
60.

Who'sThat    

the co-habitation agreement signed by both legalized the fact that OG will not receive any money from Mel. OG was trying to show Mel how devoted she was to him to not receive a dime from him during their time together...of course once they are married however, she thought this agreement will be nullified.

her plan backfired when they broke up...since then she has been trying to find ways to get more money out of this man whom she purported to love at one time in her life...how pathetic this woman is...her actions of vengeance is so obvious...she does not see it ...she cannot be objective since her feeling of rejection so great and she wants the damn money...

money money money...all she wants is the money to try to make this man pay for rejecting the mother of his child...

she makes me ill...the fact that Lucia is treated like a full sister by Mel's family is not enough...she is trying to inject herself into his family for the money..

a loving mother should be happy her daughter is fully accepted by the Gibson "army" but this monster is not a loving mother as her actions show...how come no one on OG team can see that?

1401 days ago
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