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Miss Penn. to Trump

Psych Training Tells Me

Miss USA is Rigged

6/8/2012 7:20 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
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Ex-Miss Pennsylvania insists the list of top 5 Miss USA contestants she was told about perfectly matched the eventual top 5 -- but sources connected with the pageant tell TMZ her math is way off ... because only one name matched.

Sheena Monnin isn't backing down from her claim Miss U. is fixed -- on "NBC Today" she said, "It's too coincidental for someone to be able to call out in order the top 5. I know what I heard there is no doubt in my mind that the contestant is serious when she laid out what she saw."

Monnin claims Miss Florida told her she saw a list of the top 5 before they were announced -- and although Miss FL now says she was joking ... Monnin says, "I have many years of psychological training. I know when someone is scared and serious. Her body language was serious."

But pageant sources tell us the list Miss Florida saw had only ONE name of the eventual top 5 finalists -- which pokes a huge hole in Monnin's story. As TMZ first reported, lawyers for pageant owner Donald Trump are currently drafting a defamation lawsuit against Monnin.

By the way, Monnin's psych training consists of a master's degree ... from the University of Phoenix.

 update_barMiss Florida Karina Brez, tells TMZ, "I want to make a statement, very firm and very clearly, that I did not at any time tell Miss Pennsylvania USA or other Miss USA contestants that I knew the final five contestants in the Pageant."

Brez adds, "For reasons I don't understand, my name is now being brought forward as the person who released the names and implied that the Final Five contestants were pre-selected. This is absolutely not true, and not the case."



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How dumb is Miss Florida USA? I mean seriously this girl does not get it that MUO has already told on her and thrown her to the wolves!! She is made to look like the idiot because MUO admits she is the one that told Miss PA about the list, and now Miss FL USA looks like an even bigger idiot and fraud and coward than she was before.

870 days ago


Everybody knows that those "pageants" are rigged, and Miss Universe too, those things are used for business or you think Trump bought them just for the sport.

870 days ago


I call BS... they say 'the list' actually exsisted and that only one name matched those mentioned by Miss Florida to Miss Penn. So which is it, there is no list... there is a list but the names didn't match up... Miss Florida never saw a list? This story is all over the place. Obviously there 'was' a list.. easy enough to toss and replace with a new one... obviously Miss Florida doesn't want to be sued ... Trump is a bully. How do you sue someone who is saying SOMEONE else told her something and she personally chooses to believe what she was told??? It's like taking someone to court to make them change their opinion! She should sue HIM for threats , harassment and defamation!

870 days ago


Sorry to all Psychologists out there... but Psychology is somewhat subjective. What you see as passive aggressive, another psychologist may see as Dismissive, diminishing importance. Its going to take more than a masters to fully understand human behavior Come back and talk about body language when you have a doctorate sweetheart. (Although, even then... many doctors of psychology and psychiatry still don't have all the answers. So don't act like you do with your little masters degree from an online college.

870 days ago


" I have many years of psychological training". Are you kidding me? You have a degree from a third rate correspondence school and you're only twenty something. Yeah, that's a lot of years of experience. I'm also guessing your next experience will be a role in a porn flick.

870 days ago


This whole thing is a publicity stunt because of low ratings. We sheeple need to wake up.

870 days ago

Countess Jenni    

A Master's from the University of Phoenix? It's a for-profit school that doesn't cut the mustard. Their degrees are questionable, which makes Miss PA's statements even more questionable to me.

This woman is trying too hard to get people to believe her spin. I'm not a Trump fan, but he's got her beat on this one for sure, especially after Miss Florida made her statements.

870 days ago


So there was a list? Why? There shouldn't have been any list if the winner is selected at THE END, right? This pageant has gone down hill since the ownership changed. It is like a playboy shoot and who can charm Mr. Trump the most. Im sorry but you looking good in a bikini with fake tits is not what makes you a good Ms. America, neither is "posing" for a picture looking like your drinking a bottle of Vodka.

870 days ago


uh... I think she meant 'psychology training' not 'psychological training' hahaha. The first is training in psychology, the second is being trained, psychologically.

870 days ago


..."Monnin says, "I have many years of psychological training. I know when someone is scared and serious. Her body language was serious."
That isn't how it works. You don't go to college or take courses or otherwise educate yourself in psychology...and then magically become a master of all knowledge in reading people's feelings, faces, or emotions.
When someone does study psychology then comes away from it thinking they have some superior skills in "reading people"'s a big sign that they're actually inexperienced in life and just grabbing at straws trying to prove they have superior skills.
For her own sake she really needs to make some smarter moves on this, the wisest thing she could do is make a public apology.
Dragging it out is just going to get her into trouble for slander.

870 days ago


TMZ - why are you guys such haters? Who cares where she got her degree?

870 days ago


The next thing will be "reality TV" isn't real ! NOOOOOO, say it isn't so!

870 days ago


Maybe she's just kind of upset because it's pretty bad when the TG is prettier than she is.

870 days ago


The thing was set up to give whoever gave the correct politically correct answer to the gay question the crown. "She answered a question posed by judge Rob Kardashian about transgender contestants by saying it would be fair for a man who became a woman to be named Miss Universe. Her response was met with wild applause from the audience" That was Miss Rhode Island.

870 days ago


sounds like Miss Florida is scared ****less.

870 days ago
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