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Rabbi to Aubrey Oy Vey -- No Brilliance in Hate!

9/2/2009 5:45 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

From the completely obvious file -- the comments Aubrey O'Day made about Hitler and Fidel Castro on "The Sean Hannity Show" Monday night immediately struck a chord with members of the Jewish community.

 Rabbi to Aubrey Oy Vey

TMZ spoke with Rabbi Chaim Cunin of Chabad House who gave us the following statement:

"When a woman like her uses public airwaves, with access to millions of wonderful citizens of America, and calls some of the most despicable, unspeakable hate mongers of history brilliant, then something is lacking with her intelligence.

This is a constant reminder of how careful we need to be when we talk about hate, because hatred is always present. We need to make sure we are careful and that hatred doesn't rear it's ugly head.

'I'd like for her to think about some older Holocaust survivor having that comment beamed into their home while they are enjoying the freedom that this beautiful country provides and having to listen to her disgusting comments."

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punkazz    

Ok first of all, she stated more than once that she did not condone the behavior of castro and hitler. She stated that what they have done is deploreable, BUT the fact is that both of these men do/did have high rated IQs, eloquence, charisma ect ect. #4 or 5 stated that there is no way that an intelligent people do illogical things as both Hitler and castro has done, but the fact is that Hitler DID feel that what he was doing was the best for a new world order, in his mind he was being logical. the fact is many dictators are intelligent, their morals, lust for power and miguided ways of thinking are an entirely different subject.

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lili    

13. Lilith, by logic you are referring to ethics--Hitler's logic of eugenics, while highly unethical, was sound in his skewed perception of logic. Because our individual logic and our logic as a culture are determined by our individual and shared values, one cannot determine a mind's brilliance by basing it on the logic of another set of standards. It would be like trying to measure randrops with a Richter scale.

Hitler's ethics were completely flawed by the standards of most, but ethics are not a determiner of intelligence. Think about the level of manipulation someone like Charles Manson has to have to control a group of normal people. Multiply those people by hundreds of thousands, and you begin to understand the kind of intelligence Hitler required.

Posted at 2:06AM on Sep 2nd 2009 by Mimi

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Excellent point.

Furthermore, highly intelligent scientists and doctors in the UNITED STATES have participated in the study and practice of eugenics. This is not unknown.

Yes, Hitler and Castro were both highly intelligent.

1854 days ago
63.

TEXACE    

Troof,

you couldn't be further from the truth.

Comparing Hitler to Manson & Dahmer? You can't be serious?

Manson & Dahmer snuck around, kidnapping and murdering individuals. They were serial killers, at best.

Hitler, while equally (if not more so) disgusting, masterminded the take-over of an entire continent ... and WOULD have succeeded in taking over a second (Africa) had (1) they decided to wait until Spring to attack Russia, and (2) had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor.

People are missing her this woman's point. Intelligent doesn't equal "Great" ... it just equals Intelligent. You can be a total @-hole and still be a smart individual. You can be a sick & twisted fellow (Hitler) and still be brilliant.

Pointing out that Hitler was intelligent DOES NOT mean one condones Hitler's actions or beliefs. You might want to attempt to grasp the context and concept she was speaking on before labeling her a "Neo Nazi".

This story is nothing more than a modern day witch hunt.

1854 days ago
64.

lili    

Why does noone object to Thomas Jefferson being called intelligent when he was responsible for the continued practice of slavery, which involved untold torture, whips, hangings, and death.

Why does noone object to Henry Kissinger being called intelligent, when his crimes in Asia were far greater than Fidel Castros.

Please folks, know what you are talking about.

1854 days ago
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STFU TMZ YOU ARE IDIOTS    

I'm sure the ones that think Hitler was not smart also toy with the idea that the Holocaust never even happened too. You can say he wasn't smart all you want to make yourself feel like you are bashing him....but the fact is that you can't brainwash people like he did without being smart period. Smart people do dumb things all the time, or evil things (kill people), it doesn't mean they aren't smart or aren't isane. The truth is some of the most mentally ill people are some of the most artistic people. Sometimes mentally ill people are brilliant but can't hold jobs because they are so ill that their mind is constantly going in circles and thinking way too much, it's in overdrive and they wear themselves out too much to work. I would say someone with a mind like that is NOT dumb. But it makes it so they cannot work. The average person with an average IQ and average thoughts of course would not understand this..and would love to just bash someone like this.

1854 days ago
66.

The Seer    

TEXACE @73:

I am very serious. And correct. Hitler was no more than a thug.

And "snuck" is not a word.

1854 days ago
67.

Del    

Oh please. You can't really rise to power by being a complete jackass (unless you're GWB, that is). Most world leaders have had some brains, but saying that out loud is always a bad thing, right?

I find it absolutely amazing that 70 years after WW II began we still have the Germans on all fours, asking for forgiveness. What did that generation do to Jews? Nought. A religious group continues to play the "waaaaaah" card over and over again, justifying just about anything with it.

Greetings from Northern Europe, where speaking one's mind is "a-okay"!

1854 days ago
68.

STFU TMZ YOU ARE IDIOTS    

Another example is an intelligent person doing drugs to slow their mind down. Doing drugs is stupid but the person doing drugs can be very intelligent.

1854 days ago
69.

TracyLouWho    

Perhaps the rabbi needs to talk to our politicians about their disgusting comments.

1854 days ago
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goolsbinin    

To whoever made the Manson comment... Charles Manson actually had very little to do with the actual murders... He wasn't even present during the Tate/La Bianca murders... He used his CHARISMA and LOGIC not his "intelligence" to control young, stupid, and lost individuals to his work for him... He was Charismatic not intelligent... Same goes for Hitler!

1854 days ago
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Linda Mott    

Women like her think that if they shake their boobs around, the men will let them get away with anything. It is very annoying when Max on your show thinks if a woman has big breasts or a large butt, that that means she is great. There is more to a woman than that. It may get your attention to start but an empty headed woman is not the norm. The comments she made were anti everyone with a brain and is disrespectful to the gays in Cuba that suffer under Castro's rule and the Jews and Zionists that suffered under Hitler.

1854 days ago
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The Seer    

Um, Del, and the rest of you Nazi sympathizers, why don't you run along and read Mein Kamph, by Hitler, and then Night, by Eli Wiesel. Inform yourselves.

Then get back to the rest of us. Oh, and in the meantime, why don't you pray that the Hitlers and Castros of the world never reach power in your country.

It is people like you who, with your lacksidasical seemingly apathetic attitudes, are the reason tragedies like the Holocaust happen. And don't think for a moment that it can't happen again, because it can. You are living, breathing proof of that fact.

Never, ever forget the Holocaust.

www.adl.org

1854 days ago
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TEXACE    

Troof,

It's a word in common usage. (snuck)

So is "Yall", "you betcha", "Yunna" (you want to), etc, etc.

And if attacking someone's use of a slang term is your best argument for gauging intelligence .... you've lost.

1854 days ago
74.

indiegal1    

WHAT BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SURELY NOT THE U.S.A.
THIS GOVT. SUCKS !! NO COST OF LIVING RAISES FOR SOCIAL SECURITY RECIPIENTS OR THE DISABLED FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS !! LOOK OUT NOW. THE HOMELESS WILL BE ON THE RISE! FRIGGIN' GOVT. OFFICIALS AND OBAMA CAN *#**##@*^#@@@@***!!!!! I CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY ALL GET TO ST. PETER'S GATE AND THEY ALL GET SHIPPED DOWN TO HELL !! THEY GET AN OPT OUT ON SOCIAL SECURITY. GET TO LIVE OFF OF MILLIONS WHEN THEY RETIRE !!

1854 days ago
75.

chalkoutline    

She is right. I have heard Jim Jones described as intelligent and charming, where is the "outrage" over that?

Those rabbi's want to censor her free speech? Hypocrite much?

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