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Oksana Accused Another Actor Of Abuse

10/1/2010 12:30 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Oksana Grigorieva accused actor Timothy Dalton of the some of the same abusive conduct she is now alleging against Mel Gibson ... multiple sources tell TMZ.

Oksana Timothy Dalton
Our sources -- who were privy to the allegations when Oksana made them -- say Oksana complained to Mel and later to her lawyers that she was the victim of Dalton's "rages."  We're also told she complained to Mel and her lawyers that Dalton had allegedly abused her physically.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... the L.A. County Sheriff's Department is in possession of at least one email from Oksana to Mel in which she claims Dalton physically abused her.

As far as we can tell, Oksana never went to law enforcement to complain about Dalton and absolutely no action was ever taken against the actor.  There has never been any evidence presented of abuse on Dalton's part.

We're told ... L.A. County Sheriff's Department investigators in the Mel Gibson matter were made aware of Oksana's claims regarding Dalton ... partly because it could show an M.O. on Oksana's part.

We called Dalton for comment and Dalton called Daniel Horowitz, Oksana's lawyer.  Horowitz says, "Dalton said that he spoke with Oksana and they both agreed that anyone claiming there was abusiveness in the relationship is a liar and it is a complete fabrication."  Horowitz says Dalton told him, "Oksana and I are still friends to this day."

As for Oksana telling Mel and lawyers that Dalton was abusive, Horowitz says, "That is a complete lie.  I challenge anyone making this claim to show their face."  And Horowitz says, "This is an attack on Oksana and Tim's son, because this is going to hurt him by false allegations that his father is a loser the way Mel Gibson is a loser. Tim Dalton is not Mel Gibson.  He's a fine human being."

Oksana tells TMZ, "Tim is a wonderful father.  We have a great relationship.  Any implication that he ever struck me is untrue.  He is a very private person and I would like people to respect his privacy and to recognize the sanctity of the love of my son for his father.  This is just another vicious attack on my family."

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Ray    

Aston that depends on possible corrospondence that she told Mr. Gibson that she was abused to play a victim. It would show a pattern.

1445 days ago
107.

aston    

Why do people here always believe everything TMZ "sources" say? You are so gullible, they can control you any way they want.

1445 days ago
108.

KoalaBabe    

I can't wait for what investigators has found.
Horowitz very much like Oksana actually, sly, devious character.

1445 days ago
109.

KoalaBabe    

Sweetheart! how you been?

I am interested when the court case going to be, it's been long enough.

1445 days ago
110.

Bubba    

Quote - "Horowitz says, "That is a complete lie. I challenge anyone making this claim to show their face."

AND...

Quote - "L.A. County Sheriff's Department is in possession of at least one email from Oksana to Mel in which she claims Dalton physically abused her."

Amounts to - Horowitz calling his client a liar!

1445 days ago
111.

Sorntolc    

Sorn So you are a little more clearer of what the movie was about and the character that Chris McCandless was in life. This is what the story is about based on the book's author interview with the family about Chris and his personality for the book:

Into the Wild, by Jon Krakauer, tells the true story of Chris McCandless, a young man who cut all ties with his family after graduating from college and went to live off the land in the Alaskan wilderness.

In 1992, McCandless spent nearly four months living in the woods near Denali National Park in an abandoned bus, where his dead body was ultimately found. He was 24.

Krakauer wrote Into the Wild with the cooperation of the McCandless family. And when director Sean Penn called to ask about the movie rights, Krakauer told him the family would have to agree.

"They're courageous people, the family, and they thought, 'No, we're OK with it, as long as it's true, we'll be fine,'" Krakauer tells Melissa Block.

Although anger at his parents is part of McCandless' motivation, Krakauer emphasizes that he wasn't necessarily running away from his family, but rather, to adventure.

"He was an intense kid. He didn't see the world in gray at all, everything was black and white, right or wrong, and he was a young man who wanted to test himself," Krakauer says. "That's not uncommon. What is uncommon is the degree to which he needed to test himself."
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It has NOTHING to do with domestic violence!

Posted at 4:06 AM on Oct 1, 2010 by Shuffle Demon

Well, the McCandless family is courageous people, they have for sure suffered a lot & it's heartaching that they allowed this film to be produced.

But you have obviously not seen the film Shuffle Demon, or don't recall too much, cause apart from the cited & polite notation from Krakauer that it was also for the share love of adventure Alex took on his journey (of course), the underlying theme of a spoilt domestic scene is a very important matter in the story. His well respected father had a child out of wetlock & when it somehow was revealed, the identity crisis of Chris (Alex) became definitively unbearable & he left for good. He never sent a letter or gave a phonecall, even to his sister, to whom he was very close. The whole family suffered a lot & had to reflect deep on their lifes. He wanted to his father to learn from what he did, often in the film he has a flash back to the scenes in the family, when his father insulted his mother & so on.

Go view or review the film Shuffle Demon! It's a great film.

Glad about your initial greeting anyway, not to often it happens to me on these blogs :)

1445 days ago
112.

KoalaBabe    

Quote - "L.A. County Sheriff's Department is in possession of at least one email from Oksana to Mel in which she claims Dalton physically abused her."

Amounts to - Horowitz calling his client a liar!

Posted at 4:27 AM on Oct 1, 2010 by Bubba

I can't wait for that to show up as evidence, and Horowitz will have egg on his face.

1445 days ago
113.

aston    

But the difference is that Oksana has never taken Tim to court over any kind of abuse, on the contrary they are in agreement. Also, she is not in any kind of custody or child support fight with him.

When it comes to Mel, it's a totally different story. We've heard his rants which by far surpassed normal arguments, we know he's afraid of his own rage (he's said so on camera before the Oksana brouhaha happened), we know he admitted to the abuse.

Don't see patterns where there aren't any. This is a TMZ spin, and please remember Harvey is a failed lawyer. TMZ need to keep this story going because it's good business. Whenever Mel and Oksana will seem to reach an agreement, TMZ will toss some more petrol to the fire.

1445 days ago
114.

KoalaBabe    

Sorntolc,
The review on this sites, there is no reference about domestic violence in there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Wild_%28film%29

1445 days ago
115.

Bubba    

Quoting aston: "...we know he admitted to the abuse."

No "we" don't. You are assuming facts not in evidence.

1445 days ago
116.

LA me    

Of coarse Dalton is denying he ever abused Oxy. He probably didn't! That doesn't mean Oxy never told others that he did!! She is a pathological LIAR!! Poor, Poor Pitiful ME!!

1445 days ago
117.

Ray    

There can be a pattern. We also did not hear the tapes until apparently things in mediation broke down. It could be TMZ spin and it may not be. I am going to wait and see because I feel there is more to this.

1445 days ago
118.

Sorntolc    

It has NOTHING to do with domestic violence!

Posted at 4:06 AM on Oct 1, 2010 by Shuffle Demon

Furhermore, it was not only the four months Alex spent in Alaska, it was two years constant journey before that, ever since he graduated at 22, that he left his home & never returned a message. The film includes it all & Sean Penn has stronger focus on the family matters than Krakauer, excellent & unexpected the film reveals important intimate details, no doubt with permission from the McCandless family too.

1445 days ago
119.

Skywatcher    

If Dalton really abused her one way or another, this only shows that she didn't make a case of it, but sorted out the problem in private, as she also tried with Mel, but feeling unsafe if he would eventually accuse her for extortion (so he did), she chose to take the evidence to the Sheriffs department for them to investigate the case.
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This is my whole problem with the situation. Working out DV issues in private and only when things don't go their way, they go public? Number one, you don't "work out" DV issues in private. If someone plays that unfair, it is ludicrous to think they will ever will, and number 2, when children are involved, you're not just playing with your own life, you're playing with their's. The idea of using DV as a means of extortion is not only reprehensible, it clearly shows that whatever "abuse" the person suffered really wasn't that big of a deal to he/she/it. All they see is a means to their own ends. Opportunistic is the only one way of describing it. I didn't realize that damage to one's body from someone you love was a bargaining point. If that were true, there'd be no need for laws about it. The woman clearly has no self-respect. Or maybe in her culture, it's just par for the course to get beat up on in a relationship, and it is expected that you use it for getting what you want. (have I heard that somewhere before?)

But further, why should the court care after your private deal goes south? Someone engages in blackmail or extortion and then goes running to the authorities when it doesn't work out? Isn't that kind of like asking the judge to take part in the crime? That's like stealing from someone, then having same said item stolen from you and then filing criminal charges against the one who stole it from you. "I stole it, then he stole it from me, and I want you, the police, to get it back for me." That's so damn f'd-up, its a wonder I can even understand it. Maybe that's how it's done in the mafia, but as far as I know, the American justice system hasn't adopted that code yet.

Obviously, she plays by somebody else's rules (or some other culture's). Which may be exactly what the lawyers were saying, that she doesn't understand American ways. Oh well, I guess she's learning now. Add another item to her international resume.

1445 days ago
120.

Shuffle Demon    

It has NOTHING to do with domestic violence!

Posted at 4:06 AM on Oct 1, 2010 by Shuffle Demon

Well, the McCandless family is courageous people, they have for sure suffered a lot & it's heartaching that they allowed this film to be produced.

But you have obviously not seen the film Shuffle Demon, or don't recall too much, cause apart from the cited & polite notation from Krakauer that it was also for the share love of adventure Alex took on his journey (of course), the underlying theme of a spoilt domestic scene is a very important matter in the story. His well respected father had a child out of wetlock & when it somehow was revealed, the identity crisis of Chris (Alex) became definitively unbearable & he left for good. He never sent a letter or gave a phonecall, even to his sister, to whom he was very close. The whole family suffered a lot & had to reflect deep on their lifes. He wanted to his father to learn from what he did, often in the film he has a flash back to the scenes in the family, when his father insulted his mother & so on.

Go view or review the film Shuffle Demon! It's a great film.

Glad about your initial greeting anyway, not to often it happens to me on these blogs :)


Posted at 4:31 AM on Oct 1, 2010 by Sorntolc
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Sorn...I have the DVD...There is NO talk or hint of DV in the movie, I bought the DVD because it is based on the book, with exception of some details Sean left ouyt, but DV is not in the book or movie, Chri's father was not abusive period. Whether he had a child out of wedlock would have NOTHING to do with DV...You ought to really read the book, that is what the movie is based on, except for the fact that Sean left bthings out of the movie for effect, and no , domestic violelce wasn't one of them...Vhris father was a domant and over bearinmg personality but he never hit chris his sister or his wife...READ THE BOOK

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