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NBC News -- We Won't Pay for Casey Anthony ... BUT

7/24/2011 8:37 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

NBC news is apparently reacting to a TMZ story, in which we said Casey Anthony's lawyer is negotiating with the major networks, and big bucks are on the line ... because the network is saying they have not offered any payment for an INTERVIEW ... BUT, it made no mention of other ways of paying handsomely for a chat with the very famous former murder defendant.

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TMZ broke the story ... Anthony's lawyer, Jose Baez, was holed up at the swanky Mandarin Oriental Hotel in New York City, negotiating with NBC, ABC and CBS for the first sit-down.  And, as we reported, Baez was in the Hotel bar Thursday night, getting tips from high-profile lawyer Mark Geragos on how to negotiate the best deal.

NBC gave a statement to the New York Post, saying, "We've talked with Baez about getting an interview with Casey Anthony, but only under NBC News standards and conditions -- no payment, and absolutely no job offers for any member of her defense team."

Read carefully -- NBC is saying "no payment," but it refers to an "interview."  That doesn't cover paying huge money for pictures, video, etc.  That's S.O.P. in the network game -- and we're told that's one of the issues Geragos covered with Baez.

As we reported, as of Friday morning ... NBC was the frontrunner in nabbing Anthony.


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THIS IS THE LIAR FOR HIRE YOU WANT US TO WATCH? notice within this transcript are the clues that prove Casey Murdered her 2 year old daughter. How many can you name?....................WTF
TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW CASEY ANTHONY
February 14 2010 at 10:23 AM

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2 CONDUCTED BY DETECTIVE MELICH
3 CASE NUMBER 08-069208
4 JULY 21, 2008
5
6 The date right now is July 16th, the time right now is 0411 hours. I'm
7 Detective Melich with the Orange County Sheriff's Office. Um, present here at
8 4937 Hope Spring Drive, in reference to Orange County case number 08-069208. I
9 am with Casey Anthony, is that correct?
10 A Yes.
11 Q And Casey would you please state you birthday for me?
12 A Zero 3/19/1986.
13 Q Okay. Casey, you understand this is being recorded?
14 A Yes.
15 Q You have any objection to that?
16 A NO.
17 Q Alright. Casey, I got called here by Sergeant Reggie Hosey with the Orange
18 County Sheriff's Office in reference to a missing child. We sat here and talked
19 for a short moment before we went on tape. Cause I wanted to make sure that
20 your sworn statement, which I'm looking at, was accurate. I'm looking at four
21 pages of a sworn statement on the bottom it appears to be your signature, it that
22 correct?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Okay. And you're saying that everything contained in these statements are true
25 and accurate?

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1 A Yes. 2 Q Also before I turned on the recorder I gave you a chance 'cause I wanted to
3 explain what happens if you make a false report or if there's something about this
4 incident that you're not telling us the truth.
5 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
6 Q And I wanted to make sure I made it perfectly clear that if you want to go ahead
7 and rescind this statement and if you want to tell me a different story about what
8 happened.
9 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
10 Q If you're basically if you're trying to fabricate a story to kind of make something
11 look a little bit better
12 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
13 Q Now is your time to tell me. Are you telling me that this is the story you want to
14 stick with?
15 A That's the truth. It's the story I'm gonna stick with yes.
16 Q Okay. Um, in your own words let's go, let's go back. Your daughter's name is
17 Caylee C-A-Y-L-E-E?
18 A Yes.
19 Q Marie Anthony. She was born August 9th?
20 A Two thousand five.
21 Q Okay. And..according to your statement back on August 9th, I'm sorry. Ah back
22 on June 9th, 2008 you took Casey to a baby sitter's house?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And who is this baby sitter?
25 A Her name is Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales.

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1 Q Do you know how to spell the first name?
2 A Z-E-N-A-I-D-A.
3 Q And where was Zenaida's..where did you drop ZEn..ah, the..your child off?
4 A The Saw Grass Apartments on Conway and Michigan.
5 Q Do you remember the address?
6 A I don't remember the address, no.
7 Q Do you remember the apartment number?
8 A Two ten.
9 Q Okay.
10 A It's on the second floor.
11 Q If you were to pull into the Saw Grass Apartments would the building be the one
12 closest to the road, furtherest back, half way?
13 A As soon as you go straight you go over one speed bump and it's the first one on
14 the right hand side.
15 Q Okay, is there a pool next to it? Or is there anything about the...
16 A There's...
17 Q ...apartment that stands out?
18 A There's a welcome sign um, I guess there's a little shed close to the building
19 maybe about ten yards away.
20 Q Okay. How long have you known Zenaida?
21 A Almost four years, it'll be four years Christmas this year.
22 Q And where did you meet her? Who did you met her through?
23 A A mutual friend his name is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins. Um, I met him at Nickelodeon
24 at Universal. I met her through him. She was...
25 Q Was....

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1 A ...his son's nanny at the time.
2 Q Does Jeffrey still work at Universal?
3 A No he does not.
4 Q How long has it been since he left?
5 A About nine, ten months give or take.
6 Q Did he move back to Jacksonville?
7 A He moved up to North Carolina for a short time and moved down to Jacksonville
8 within the last three months.
9 Q When was the last time you spoke with him?
10 A About a week and a hal****o.
11 Q Okay. Do you know a telephone number for him?
12 A I can find a number for him. I don't know a number off hand, no I do not.
13 Q You mentioned something um, before we went on tape about your cell phones.
14 A Yes, I have two phones. I just received a new phone through work.
15 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
16 A Through Universal. Um, it won't keep charged so I use my old phone that I
17 actually had gotten again through Universal for work.
18 Q Okay. You, did you lose a phone.
19 A Yes.
20 Q Was that your personal phone?
21 A It was my personal phone, but I also use it for business.
22 Q Okay. What's your..what's the number for the phone that you lost?
23 A Um, 407-619-9286. It's the same.
24 Q Did you keep that same number?
25 A ...number. Yes it's still...

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1 Q You lost the phone?
2 A ...the same number. I just lost the phone.
3 Q And in that phone you're saying was a Sim card and the Sim card had the contact
4 information?
5 A Actually the Sim card is in my Nokia phone, but I know there's numbers saved to
6 the cell phone itself. so, if we get the actual phone I know I have one other
7 number for Zenaida. And probably a number for Jeff besides work numbers and
8 ...
9 Q But they're not in your Sim card?
10 A They're not saved on the Sim card they're saved on the phone. I've been trying
11 to figure out...on that new phone how to save numbers from the phone to the
12 Sim card and switch them back and forth. So, that way I have everything all in
13 one piece.
14 Q Okay, so the phone where you have the number saved you lost?
15 A Yes. I filed an incident report.
16 Q Well, how did you end up keeping the Sim card?
17 A I had taken it out I know I left the phone on my desk at work after I'd switched the
18 Sim card back to my old phone. Because this was the phone that actually would
19 keep charge.
20 Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
21 A I want to be able too have a working phone instead of having a phone that would
22 only stay charged for about a half hour and that it would die and I can't make
23 anymore calls. It's for me not practical.
24 Q So, after you, after you switched the Sim cards on the phone what?
25 A I left.

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1 Q ...(inaudible).
2 A I know I left it on my desk. And I hadn't been at work for at least three or four
3 days.
4 Q And you said you made a report to Universal or...
5 A Yes, with security.
6 Q When was that?
7 A Nine days ago.
8 Q Nine days ago?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Okay. So, you met Zenaida through Jeffrey Hopkins.
11 A I did.
12 Q And his son Zack Hopkins I guess, Zenaida used to watch over Zack?
13 A Yes.
14 Q And you say you've known Zenaida for about four years?
15 A Almost four years yes.
16 Q So, you knew her before you had your child?
17 A Well, I met her just before I was actually pregnant at the time so.
18 Q And when did star watching over your child?
19 A Um, it's been within the last year and a half, two years that she started watching
20 Caylee. I had another friend watch Caylee that I've known since middle school.
21 When she went back to school I was looking for a new nanny. Jeff offered to
22 have Zenaida watch both kids. She agreed and it kind of went from there.
23 Q Before Zenaida started watching over your child who was it, who was the nanny?
24 A Her name is Lauren Gibbs, G-I-B-B-S.
25 Q And when did Lauren stop watching Zen..ah, your child?

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1 A Um, maybe April of 2006.
2 Q Okay. And end of April 2006 roughly is when Zenaida stated watching her?
3 A Yes.
4 Q How would you normally drop off..how would you normally do the exchange with
5 your child and Zenaida? Would you drop the child off, would she meet you
6 somewhere?
7 A I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
8 He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
9 of years ago.
10 Q And you would go to Jeff's house why?
11 A To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
12 Q Okay.
13 A It was a nice centralized area, he had a decent sized house. It was good room
14 for the two of them. Then I started bringing Caylee over to Zenaida's apartment.
15 Q How long were you using or were you going to Zenaida's apartment? How..
16 when did you start taking Caylee.
17 A Um, I guess maybe the end of 2006, beginning of 2007.
18 Q So, since the end of 2006, beginning of '07.
19 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
20 Q You started taking Caylee to Zenaida's house on Saw Grass?
21 A She had an apartment on I guess it's considered Glenwood, but it's of Bumby
22 and Robinson.
23 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
24 A Close to downtown. She lived there for quite a few months and moved over to
25 Saw Grass just recently this year.

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1 Q The ah, house on Bumby. Do you remember the address or remember where
2 it's at?
3 A I know it's off Glenwood I don't remember the apartment number off hand no I do
4 not.
5 Q And how long ago did you say you dropped the child off there? From the
6 beginning of...end of '06, beginning of'07 to...
7 A Um, think about six, seven months, so maybe the middle of '07?
8 Q So, she moved into Saw Grass about the middle of '07?
9 A She's been at that apartment in Saw Grass for about the last three or four
10 months. She'd lived with her mom for a little bit.
11 Q Where's her mom live?
12 A She lived off of Michigan.
13 Q Do you know where the house is?
14 A Um, it's not a very well marked neighborhood. It crosses just over Conway it's
15 one of the big stretches of neighborhoods.
16 Q Had you dropped the child off there before?
17 A Yes.
18 Q If you had to find the place would you be able to find it?
19 A Most likely yes I think I'd remember the house.
20 Q Okay. So, she was living off of Glenwood, then moved into her mom's house
21 somewhere off of Michigan?
22 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
23 Q And then moved into...
24 A And then into..
25 Q ...Saw Grass?

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1 A ...Saw Grass
2 Q So, Saw Grass three or four months ago. Off of Glenwood until mid '07.
3 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
4 Q Then mom's house.
5 A Her mom wasn't living there at the time. Her mom had gotten another place with
6 her sister, that she was staying over at the house. And moved in with the two
7 girls that are referenced in the pages.
8 Q She was living with these two girls at Saw Grass?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Okay. Going back to your statement. You dropped off your ah, you dropped off
11 Caylee on June 9th, and walk me through. You dropped her off to go to work?
12 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
13 Q Okay. Get off of work and go from there.
14 A I got off of work, left Universal driving back to pick up Caylee like a normal day.
15 And I show up to the apartment, knock on the door. Nobody answers. So, I
16 called Zenaida's cell phone and it's out of service. Says that the phone is no
17 longer in service. Excuse me. So, I sit down on the steps and wait for a little bit
18 to see if maybe it was just a fluke if something happened. And time passed I
19 didn't hear from anyone. No one showed up to the house so I went over to Jay
20 Blanchard Park and checked a couple other places where maybe possibly they
21 would've gone. A couple stores just regular places that I know Zenaida shops at
22 and she's taken Caylee before. And after about 7 o'clock when I still hadn't
23 heard anything I was getting pretty upset, pretty frantic. And I went to a neutral
24 place. I didn't really want to come home, I wasn't sure what I'd say about not
25 knowing where Caylee was. Still hoping that I would get a call or you know find

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1 out that Caylee was coming back so that I could go get her. And I ended up
2 going to my boyfriend, Anthony's house, who lives in Sutton Place.
3 Q Did you talk to Anthony about um, what happened with Caylee?
4 A No I did not.
5 Q Had Anthony ever seen Caylee before?
6 A Yes he has.
7 Q Have you talked to anyone about Caylee, about your incident with Caylee? Or
8 the fact that...
9 A Outside of...
10 Q ...she's missing?
11 A ...a couple of people, a couple of mutual friends.
12 Q Who did you talk to about it?
13 A Um, I talked to Jeff, Jeffrey Hopkins.
14 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
15 A I also attempted to contact Zenaida's mother and never received a call back from
16 her.
17 Q Do you know Zenaida's mother's name?
18 A Um, wow..and um, I think it's Gloria.
19 Q Do you know a telephone for Zenaida's mom?
20 A I do not, no.
21 Q Do you have any of these numbers programmed into you Sim card that you kept
22 into your other phone?
23 A No I do not.
24 Q How long did you have this old phone?
25 A I've had the Nokia for almost a full year.

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1 Q Okay. So, after a full year of dealing with Zenaida and having her baby sit, you
2 don't remember...
3 A Switching numbers back and forth. Zenaida's number has changed a couple
4 different times. She switched services between having Sprint and having AT&T
5 or Cingular.
6 Q What about Jeffrey? You've know him for at least four years.
7 A His number's changed a couple of times from when he moved from Orlando up
8 to North Carolina and back down to Jacksonville. I know I do have a current
9 number for him.
10 Q How would you get that number?
11 A If we can find that other phone or I might have it online. I may be able to access
12 it off the internet.
13 Q Okay. Who else did you talk to about this besides Jeffrey? You said you tried to
14 call Zenaida's mom?
15 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
16 Q You talked to Jeffrey, who else did you talk to?
17 A I talked to Juliette Lewis. She's one of my co-workers at Universal.
18 Q She works...you still work at Universal?
19 A Yes.
20 Q What ah, what do you do at Universal?
21 A Event coordinator.
22 Q Okay. What is Juliette, what position is she? Where does she work?
23 A She's also an event coordinator. We work in the same department.
24 Q You have a number for Juliette?
25 A Ooh off hand...I can't think of one.

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1 Q She in your Sim card?
2 A No she's not. Some of them are recent numbers. Her number just changed
3 because she just moved back up north. She.. within the last two months has
4 finished moving up to New York. She is sub-leasing her apartment.
5 Q So, Juliette...
6 A (Inaudible)
7 Q ...doesn't work at Universal anymore?
8 A No she does not.
9 Q When did she leave Universal?
10 A About two months ago.
11 Q Who else did you talk to about it?
12 A It's been within that small group. I've tried to find out just information from people
13 going out to different places. Like Fusion, Ultra Lounge and a couple of bars that
14 I know Zenaida had gone to downtown before to see if..just kind of random talk.
15 If anybody heard about my nanny or talked to her lately.
16 Q Did you tell anyone specifically that Zenaida took your child?
17 A No. The only two people that I specifically told were Jeff and Juliette.
18 Q And you don't have a number for Juliette?
19 A Not off hand, no I do not.
20 Q It's not in your phone? Might be online?
21 A It's definitely on line I know it's on one of our old work sheets. Um, her old
22 number, which could still be active I'm not sure if it is. But I know she does have
23 a new number, which I just programmed into that new phone.
24 Q When was, when was the last time you talked to Juliette?
25 Hm, about three weeks ago. Shortly after this happened.

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1 Q So, you talked to her after she left?
2 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
3 Q What's the reason um, I asked you this before and I'll ask you just for the record.
4 What's the reason you didn't call the police before? Since right not we're here
5 because you grandparents or your parents asked you about the child and they
6 were concerned, didn't get an answer as to where the child was, they called the
7 sheriff's office.
8 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
9 Q Why didn't you call prior to today?
10 A I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself, which
11 obviously I couldn't. And I was scared that something would happen to her if I
12 did notify the authorities or got the media involved. Or my parents which I know
13 would have done the same thing. Just the fear of the unknown. Fear of the
14 potential Caylee getting hurt, of not seeing my daughter again.
15 Q I asked you this...
16 A It's...
17 Q ...I asked you this at the onset and before we went on tape and I'll ask you again
18 just to make sure we're clear. Um, is there anything about this story that you're
19 telling me that is untrue?
20 A No.
21 Q Or is there anything that you want to change or divert from what you've already
22 told me?
23 A No sir.
24 Q Um, did you cause any injury to your child Caylee?
25 A No sir.

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1 Q Did you hurt Caylee or leave her somewhere and you're...
2 A No.
3 Q ...worried that if we find that out that people are gonna look at you a wrong way?
4 A No sir.
5 Q You're telling me that Zenaida took you child without your permission...
6 A She's...
7 Q ...and hasn't returned her?
8 A ...the last person that I seen with my daughter, yes.
9 Q Where did Zenaida. Does she have another job besides watching children?
10 A She has a seasonal I.D. for Universal. However, the only job that I know that
11 she's had for the last few years she's been a nanny.
12 Q So, seasonal employee at Universal?
13 A uh-huh. (Affirmative)
14 Q When was the last time she worked at Universal do you know?
15 A I have no idea.
16 Q Does ah, Caylee take any medications?
17 A No.
18 Q She doesn't suffer from any conditions any medical conditions that we need to
19 know?
20 A No, not at all.
21 Q Um, as brought up before about taking some money from some people. I want to
22 make sure I get it on tape. Ah, do you have any problems with drugs or narcotics
23 either prescription narcotics.
24 A No.
25 Q ...or drugs cocaine, ecstasy, meth anything like that?

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1 A Nothing like that.
2 Q Have you ever been um, have you ever been committed for thoughts of suicide?
3 Have you ever been at Lakeside anything like that?
4 A No.
5 Q Is there any underline cause to why Zenaida would've taken your child?
6 A No, nothing that...
7 Q She ever make any statements to you about...
8 A Only how much she loves Caylee and how great of a kid she is.
9 Q And have you talked..and when you talk to Jeffrey afterwards I'm assuming that
10 Jeffrey's child is still with him?
11 A His child is still with him.
12 Q Okay. You said Zenaida had family up in New England up New York or
13 something?
14 A Yes, she has family down south. Her mother, her sister um, her brother's in
15 New York. She's originally from New York.
16 Q And where's down South?
17 A Um, Miami area.
18 Q Where is she originally from?
19 A New York.
20 Q Ah, she born, raised in New York? She got family outside of the country or...
21 A I don't know. As far as I know she pretty much grew up there, moved down here
22 went to University of Florida.
23 Q She Puerto Rican, is she Dominican is she white?
24 A She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.
25 Q And you don't know what her birthday is or you know when her birthday is?

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1 A It's September, that's all I can remember at the moment.
2 Q If um, when we finish this if you...would you be willing to drive with me to show
3 me where her mom lives and the apartment that you used to drop her off at?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Okay. Is there anything I haven't asked you about um, Caylee or Zenaida or just
6 this incident in particular that you feel is important that you wanted to tell me
7 about before I turn this off?
8 A Um, I mean Caylee has very distinctive features even if her hair was cut or
9 changed she's dark hazel eyes they're brown and green. She has a birthmark on
10 her left shoulder. Um...
11 Q What kind of birthmark?
12 A It's just like a small line it almost looks like a small little beauty mark.
13 Q Anything else?
14 A I just want my daughter back.
15 Q Okay. Would you raise your right hand for me?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Do you swear and affirm everything you told me is the truth?
18 A Yes.
19
20 THIS TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR ACCURACY
21
22 Signed this 12th day of August, 2008
23
24 ___________________
25 DETECTIVE OCSO DEPUTY SHERIFF
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TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED INTERVIEW CASEY ANTHONY
February 14 2010 at 10:23 AM

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2 CONDUCTED BY DETECTIVE MELICH
3 CASE NUMBER 08-069208
4 JULY 21, 2008
5
6 The date right now is July 16th, the time right now is 0411 hours. I'm
7 Detective Melich with the Orange County Sheriff's Office. Um, present here at
8 4937 Hope Spring Drive, in reference to Orange County case number 08-069208. I
9 am with Casey Anthony, is that correct?
10 A Yes.
11 Q And Casey would you please state you birthday for me?
12 A Zero 3/19/1986.
13 Q Okay. Casey, you understand this is being recorded?
14 A Yes.
15 Q You have any objection to that?
16 A NO.
17 Q Alright. Casey, I got called here by Sergeant Reggie Hosey with the Orange
18 County Sheriff's Office in reference to a missing child. We sat here and talked
19 for a short moment before we went on tape. Cause I wanted to make sure that
20 your sworn statement, which I'm looking at, was accurate. I'm looking at four
21 pages of a sworn statement on the bottom it appears to be your signature, it that
22 correct?
23 A Yes.
24 Q Okay. And you're saying that everything contained in these statements are true
25 and accurate?

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1 A Yes. 2 Q Also before I turned on the recorder I gave you a chance 'cause I wanted to
3 explain what happens if you make a false report or if there's something about this
4 incident that you're not telling us the truth.
5 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
6 Q And I wanted to make sure I made it perfectly clear that if you want to go ahead
7 and rescind this statement and if you want to tell me a different story about what
8 happened.
9 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
10 Q If you're basically if you're trying to fabricate a story to kind of make something
11 look a little bit better
12 A Uh-huh (affirmative)
13 Q Now is your time to tell me. Are you telling me that this is the story you want to
14 stick with?
15 A That's the truth. It's the story I'm gonna stick with yes.
16 Q Okay. Um, in your own words let's go, let's go back. Your daughter's name is
17 Caylee C-A-Y-L-E-E?
18 A Yes.
19 Q Marie Anthony. She was born August 9th?
20 A Two thousand five.
21 Q Okay. And..according to your statement back on August 9th, I'm sorry. Ah back
22 on June 9th, 2008 you took Casey to a baby sitter's house?
23 A Yes.
24 Q And who is this baby sitter?
25 A Her name is Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales.

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1 Q Do you know how to spell the first name?
2 A Z-E-N-A-I-D-A.
3 Q And where was Zenaida's..where did you drop ZEn..ah, the..your child off?
4 A The Saw Grass Apartments on Conway and Michigan.
5 Q Do you remember the address?
6 A I don't remember the address, no.
7 Q Do you remember the apartment number?
8 A Two ten.
9 Q Okay.
10 A It's on the second floor.
11 Q If you were to pull into the Saw Grass Apartments would the building be the one
12 closest to the road, furtherest back, half way?
13 A As soon as you go straight you go over one speed bump and it's the first one on
14 the right hand side.
15 Q Okay, is there a pool next to it? Or is there anything about the...
16 A There's...
17 Q ...apartment that stands out?
18 A There's a welcome sign um, I guess there's a little shed close to the building
19 maybe about ten yards away.
20 Q Okay. How long have you known Zenaida?
21 A Almost four years, it'll be four years Christmas this year.
22 Q And where did you meet her? Who did you met her through?
23 A A mutual friend his name is Jeffrey Michael Hopkins. Um, I met him at Nickelodeon
24 at Universal. I met her through him. She was...
25 Q Was....

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1 A ...his son's nanny at the time.
2 Q Does Jeffrey still work at Universal?
3 A No he does not.
4 Q How long has it been since he left?
5 A About nine, ten months give or take.
6 Q Did he move back to Jacksonville?
7 A He moved up to North Carolina for a short time and moved down to Jacksonville
8 within the last three months.
9 Q When was the last time you spoke with him?
10 A About a week and a hal****o.
11 Q Okay. Do you know a telephone number for him?
12 A I can find a number for him. I don't know a number off hand, no I do not.
13 Q You mentioned something um, before we went on tape about your cell phones.
14 A Yes, I have two phones. I just received a new phone through work.
15 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
16 A Through Universal. Um, it won't keep charged so I use my old phone that I
17 actually had gotten again through Universal for work.
18 Q Okay. You, did you lose a phone.
19 A Yes.
20 Q Was that your personal phone?
21 A It was my personal phone, but I also use it for business.
22 Q Okay. What's your..what's the number for the phone that you lost?
23 A Um, 407-619-9286. It's the same.
24 Q Did you keep that same number?
25 A ...number. Yes it's still...

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1 Q You lost the phone?
2 A ...the same number. I just lost the phone.
3 Q And in that phone you're saying was a Sim card and the Sim card had the contact
4 information?
5 A Actually the Sim card is in my Nokia phone, but I know there's numbers saved to
6 the cell phone itself. so, if we get the actual phone I know I have one other
7 number for Zenaida. And probably a number for Jeff besides work numbers and
8 ...
9 Q But they're not in your Sim card?
10 A They're not saved on the Sim card they're saved on the phone. I've been trying
11 to figure out...on that new phone how to save numbers from the phone to the
12 Sim card and switch them back and forth. So, that way I have everything all in
13 one piece.
14 Q Okay, so the phone where you have the number saved you lost?
15 A Yes. I filed an incident report.
16 Q Well, how did you end up keeping the Sim card?
17 A I had taken it out I know I left the phone on my desk at work after I'd switched the
18 Sim card back to my old phone. Because this was the phone that actually would
19 keep charge.
20 Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
21 A I want to be able too have a working phone instead of having a phone that would
22 only stay charged for about a half hour and that it would die and I can't make
23 anymore calls. It's for me not practical.
24 Q So, after you, after you switched the Sim cards on the phone what?
25 A I left.

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1 Q ...(inaudible).
2 A I know I left it on my desk. And I hadn't been at work for at least three or four
3 days.
4 Q And you said you made a report to Universal or...
5 A Yes, with security.
6 Q When was that?
7 A Nine days ago.
8 Q Nine days ago?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Okay. So, you met Zenaida through Jeffrey Hopkins.
11 A I did.
12 Q And his son Zack Hopkins I guess, Zenaida used to watch over Zack?
13 A Yes.
14 Q And you say you've known Zenaida for about four years?
15 A Almost four years yes.
16 Q So, you knew her before you had your child?
17 A Well, I met her just before I was actually pregnant at the time so.
18 Q And when did star watching over your child?
19 A Um, it's been within the last year and a half, two years that she started watching
20 Caylee. I had another friend watch Caylee that I've known since middle school.
21 When she went back to school I was looking for a new nanny. Jeff offered to
22 have Zenaida watch both kids. She agreed and it kind of went from there.
23 Q Before Zenaida started watching over your child who was it, who was the nanny?
24 A Her name is Lauren Gibbs, G-I-B-B-S.
25 Q And when did Lauren stop watching Zen..ah, your child?

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1 A Um, maybe April of 2006.
2 Q Okay. And end of April 2006 roughly is when Zenaida stated watching her?
3 A Yes.
4 Q How would you normally drop off..how would you normally do the exchange with
5 your child and Zenaida? Would you drop the child off, would she meet you
6 somewhere?
7 A I would usually drop her off. For a few months we would go over to Jeff's house.
8 He lived over in Avalon Park. That was a couple of years ago. Almost a couple
9 of years ago.
10 Q And you would go to Jeff's house why?
11 A To drop off Caylee. That's where Zenaida would go to watch both of the kids.
12 Q Okay.
13 A It was a nice centralized area, he had a decent sized house. It was good room
14 for the two of them. Then I started bringing Caylee over to Zenaida's apartment.
15 Q How long were you using or were you going to Zenaida's apartment? How..
16 when did you start taking Caylee.
17 A Um, I guess maybe the end of 2006, beginning of 2007.
18 Q So, since the end of 2006, beginning of '07.
19 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
20 Q You started taking Caylee to Zenaida's house on Saw Grass?
21 A She had an apartment on I guess it's considered Glenwood, but it's of Bumby
22 and Robinson.
23 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
24 A Close to downtown. She lived there for quite a few months and moved over to
25 Saw Grass just recently this year.

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1 Q The ah, house on Bumby. Do you remember the address or remember where
2 it's at?
3 A I know it's off Glenwood I don't remember the apartment number off hand no I do
4 not.
5 Q And how long ago did you say you dropped the child off there? From the
6 beginning of...end of '06, beginning of'07 to...
7 A Um, think about six, seven months, so maybe the middle of '07?
8 Q So, she moved into Saw Grass about the middle of '07?
9 A She's been at that apartment in Saw Grass for about the last three or four
10 months. She'd lived with her mom for a little bit.
11 Q Where's her mom live?
12 A She lived off of Michigan.
13 Q Do you know where the house is?
14 A Um, it's not a very well marked neighborhood. It crosses just over Conway it's
15 one of the big stretches of neighborhoods.
16 Q Had you dropped the child off there before?
17 A Yes.
18 Q If you had to find the place would you be able to find it?
19 A Most likely yes I think I'd remember the house.
20 Q Okay. So, she was living off of Glenwood, then moved into her mom's house
21 somewhere off of Michigan?
22 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
23 Q And then moved into...
24 A And then into..
25 Q ...Saw Grass?

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1 A ...Saw Grass
2 Q So, Saw Grass three or four months ago. Off of Glenwood until mid '07.
3 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
4 Q Then mom's house.
5 A Her mom wasn't living there at the time. Her mom had gotten another place with
6 her sister, that she was staying over at the house. And moved in with the two
7 girls that are referenced in the pages.
8 Q She was living with these two girls at Saw Grass?
9 A Yes.
10 Q Okay. Going back to your statement. You dropped off your ah, you dropped off
11 Caylee on June 9th, and walk me through. You dropped her off to go to work?
12 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
13 Q Okay. Get off of work and go from there.
14 A I got off of work, left Universal driving back to pick up Caylee like a normal day.
15 And I show up to the apartment, knock on the door. Nobody answers. So, I
16 called Zenaida's cell phone and it's out of service. Says that the phone is no
17 longer in service. Excuse me. So, I sit down on the steps and wait for a little bit
18 to see if maybe it was just a fluke if something happened. And time passed I
19 didn't hear from anyone. No one showed up to the house so I went over to Jay
20 Blanchard Park and checked a couple other places where maybe possibly they
21 would've gone. A couple stores just regular places that I know Zenaida shops at
22 and she's taken Caylee before. And after about 7 o'clock when I still hadn't
23 heard anything I was getting pretty upset, pretty frantic. And I went to a neutral
24 place. I didn't really want to come home, I wasn't sure what I'd say about not
25 knowing where Caylee was. Still hoping that I would get a call or you know find

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1 out that Caylee was coming back so that I could go get her. And I ended up
2 going to my boyfriend, Anthony's house, who lives in Sutton Place.
3 Q Did you talk to Anthony about um, what happened with Caylee?
4 A No I did not.
5 Q Had Anthony ever seen Caylee before?
6 A Yes he has.
7 Q Have you talked to anyone about Caylee, about your incident with Caylee? Or
8 the fact that...
9 A Outside of...
10 Q ...she's missing?
11 A ...a couple of people, a couple of mutual friends.
12 Q Who did you talk to about it?
13 A Um, I talked to Jeff, Jeffrey Hopkins.
14 Q Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
15 A I also attempted to contact Zenaida's mother and never received a call back from
16 her.
17 Q Do you know Zenaida's mother's name?
18 A Um, wow..and um, I think it's Gloria.
19 Q Do you know a telephone for Zenaida's mom?
20 A I do not, no.
21 Q Do you have any of these numbers programmed into you Sim card that you kept
22 into your other phone?
23 A No I do not.
24 Q How long did you have this old phone?
25 A I've had the Nokia for almost a full year.

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1 Q Okay. So, after a full year of dealing with Zenaida and having her baby sit, you
2 don't remember...
3 A Switching numbers back and forth. Zenaida's number has changed a couple
4 different times. She switched services between having Sprint and having AT&T
5 or Cingular.
6 Q What about Jeffrey? You've know him for at least four years.
7 A His number's changed a couple of times from when he moved from Orlando up
8 to North Carolina and back down to Jacksonville. I know I do have a current
9 number for him.
10 Q How would you get that number?
11 A If we can find that other phone or I might have it online. I may be able to access
12 it off the internet.
13 Q Okay. Who else did you talk to about this besides Jeffrey? You said you tried to
14 call Zenaida's mom?
15 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
16 Q You talked to Jeffrey, who else did you talk to?
17 A I talked to Juliette Lewis. She's one of my co-workers at Universal.
18 Q She works...you still work at Universal?
19 A Yes.
20 Q What ah, what do you do at Universal?
21 A Event coordinator.
22 Q Okay. What is Juliette, what position is she? Where does she work?
23 A She's also an event coordinator. We work in the same department.
24 Q You have a number for Juliette?
25 A Ooh off hand...I can't think of one.

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1 Q She in your Sim card?
2 A No she's not. Some of them are recent numbers. Her number just changed
3 because she just moved back up north. She.. within the last two months has
4 finished moving up to New York. She is sub-leasing her apartment.
5 Q So, Juliette...
6 A (Inaudible)
7 Q ...doesn't work at Universal anymore?
8 A No she does not.
9 Q When did she leave Universal?
10 A About two months ago.
11 Q Who else did you talk to about it?
12 A It's been within that small group. I've tried to find out just information from people
13 going out to different places. Like Fusion, Ultra Lounge and a couple of bars that
14 I know Zenaida had gone to downtown before to see if..just kind of random talk.
15 If anybody heard about my nanny or talked to her lately.
16 Q Did you tell anyone specifically that Zenaida took your child?
17 A No. The only two people that I specifically told were Jeff and Juliette.
18 Q And you don't have a number for Juliette?
19 A Not off hand, no I do not.
20 Q It's not in your phone? Might be online?
21 A It's definitely on line I know it's on one of our old work sheets. Um, her old
22 number, which could still be active I'm not sure if it is. But I know she does have
23 a new number, which I just programmed into that new phone.
24 Q When was, when was the last time you talked to Juliette?
25 Hm, about three weeks ago. Shortly after this happened.

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1 Q So, you talked to her after she left?
2 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
3 Q What's the reason um, I asked you this before and I'll ask you just for the record.
4 What's the reason you didn't call the police before? Since right not we're here
5 because you grandparents or your parents asked you about the child and they
6 were concerned, didn't get an answer as to where the child was, they called the
7 sheriff's office.
8 A Uh-huh. (Affirmative)
9 Q Why didn't you call prior to today?
10 A I think part of me was naive enough to think that I could handle this myself, which
11 obviously I couldn't. And I was scared that something would happen to her if I
12 did notify the authorities or got the media involved. Or my parents which I know
13 would have done the same thing. Just the fear of the unknown. Fear of the
14 potential Caylee getting hurt, of not seeing my daughter again.
15 Q I asked you this...
16 A It's...
17 Q ...I asked you this at the onset and before we went on tape and I'll ask you again
18 just to make sure we're clear. Um, is there anything about this story that you're
19 telling me that is untrue?
20 A No.
21 Q Or is there anything that you want to change or divert from what you've already
22 told me?
23 A No sir.
24 Q Um, did you cause any injury to your child Caylee?
25 A No sir.

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1 Q Did you hurt Caylee or leave her somewhere and you're...
2 A No.
3 Q ...worried that if we find that out that people are gonna look at you a wrong way?
4 A No sir.
5 Q You're telling me that Zenaida took you child without your permission...
6 A She's...
7 Q ...and hasn't returned her?
8 A ...the last person that I seen with my daughter, yes.
9 Q Where did Zenaida. Does she have another job besides watching children?
10 A She has a seasonal I.D. for Universal. However, the only job that I know that
11 she's had for the last few years she's been a nanny.
12 Q So, seasonal employee at Universal?
13 A uh-huh. (Affirmative)
14 Q When was the last time she worked at Universal do you know?
15 A I have no idea.
16 Q Does ah, Caylee take any medications?
17 A No.
18 Q She doesn't suffer from any conditions any medical conditions that we need to
19 know?
20 A No, not at all.
21 Q Um, as brought up before about taking some money from some people. I want to
22 make sure I get it on tape. Ah, do you have any problems with drugs or narcotics
23 either prescription narcotics.
24 A No.
25 Q ...or drugs cocaine, ecstasy, meth anything like that?

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1 A Nothing like that.
2 Q Have you ever been um, have you ever been committed for thoughts of suicide?
3 Have you ever been at Lakeside anything like that?
4 A No.
5 Q Is there any underline cause to why Zenaida would've taken your child?
6 A No, nothing that...
7 Q She ever make any statements to you about...
8 A Only how much she loves Caylee and how great of a kid she is.
9 Q And have you talked..and when you talk to Jeffrey afterwards I'm assuming that
10 Jeffrey's child is still with him?
11 A His child is still with him.
12 Q Okay. You said Zenaida had family up in New England up New York or
13 something?
14 A Yes, she has family down south. Her mother, her sister um, her brother's in
15 New York. She's originally from New York.
16 Q And where's down South?
17 A Um, Miami area.
18 Q Where is she originally from?
19 A New York.
20 Q Ah, she born, raised in New York? She got family outside of the country or...
21 A I don't know. As far as I know she pretty much grew up there, moved down here
22 went to University of Florida.
23 Q She Puerto Rican, is she Dominican is she white?
24 A She's mixed. She's black and Puerto Rican.
25 Q And you don't know what her birthday is or you know when her birthday is?

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1 A It's September, that's all I can remember at the moment.
2 Q If um, when we finish this if you...would you be willing to drive with me to show
3 me where her mom lives and the apartment that you used to drop her off at?
4 A Yes.
5 Q Okay. Is there anything I haven't asked you about um, Caylee or Zenaida or just
6 this incident in particular that you feel is important that you wanted to tell me
7 about before I turn this off?
8 A Um, I mean Caylee has very distinctive features even if her hair was cut or
9 changed she's dark hazel eyes they're brown and green. She has a birthmark on
10 her left shoulder. Um...
11 Q What kind of birthmark?
12 A It's just like a small line it almost looks like a small little beauty mark.
13 Q Anything else?
14 A I just want my daughter back.
15 Q Okay. Would you raise your right hand for me?
16 A Yes.
17 Q Do you swear and affirm everything you told me is the truth?
18 A Yes.
19
20 THIS TRANSCRIPT HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR ACCURACY
21
22 Signed this 12th day of August, 2008
23
24 ___________________
25 DETECTIVE OCSO DEPUTY SHERIFF

1133 days ago
32.

tiredofthisho    

Yeah sorry, the media told fewer lies then Casey who LIED TO AND MISLED police looking for her child, lied to her family, friends, lawyers etc.

The evidence is there and will remain there. This s***bag got away with murder and looked like the cat who swallowed the canary after the verdict. Hopefully being in real society at some point will be a major wake up call about how 90+% of people feel about her.

1133 days ago
33.

lisa2    

Thank you DEXTER!

Why should people listen to her now when she couldn't be honest with the police (hint because she murdered her daughter and needed that body to rot) and couldn't answer questions at her own trial under oath.

The networks are giving her a venue for her lies and her defense teams spin.


Casey Anthony upon meeting with a producer in Palm Springs "where's the check?"

She's not mourning or missing her daughter.

1133 days ago
34.

CC - THE ORIGINAL    

What's most amusing is the part about NOT giving compensation.
There honestly IS ways about it. Read an article recently about the HS student who faked her pregnancy. They didn't "pay" her....they put money in a "trust" for her future "education"....basically, a free ticket to college.
I think they WON'T "pay" for an interview, but will put money in a "trust" for Casey to live off of. She'll NEVER get a job...not that she worked for the 2 years leading up to Caylee's murder....she doesn't have any friends or parents to steal from.
There ya go....millions put into a "trust" for her to go back out and do Hot Body Contests again.
America....great place to live if you murder your child and get away with it!!

1133 days ago
35.

artie    

i thought people involved in murder cases cant "earn" money from it???..

CASEY THE MURDER....

1133 days ago
36.

tim    

Baez is a blood sucking parasite.

1133 days ago
37.

sam    

Mr. Jeff Zucker, President
NBC Entertainment
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
(818) 840-4444
E-Mail NBC


Ms. Nina Tassler
President, CBS Entertainment
CBS Entertainment
7800 Beverly Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90039-2112
(323) 575-2747

Anne Sweeney, President
ABC Entertainment
500 S. Buena Vista St
Burbank, CA 91521-4551
(818) 560...-1000 or
(212) 456-7777
E-Mail ABC


Ms. Gail Berman, President
Fox Broadcasting Co.
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, CA 90213
(310) 369-1000
E-Mail FOX

http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/networks/main.asp has them all. CONTACT THE NETWORKS PEOPLE!!!!!!!

1133 days ago
38.

Chun LI    

I was hoping the headline would have been Casey Anthony Dead instead of Amy Winehouse dead.I'll boycott any and all networks who give this killer and her bottom feeder attorneys any $$$$.Blood money off of a 2 year old.

1133 days ago
39.

dimes    

@RAMHEAD - Allegedly, Jose Baez is trying to land himsel*****ig as a TV legal commentator and is promoting himself along with a Casey interview.

@ artie - Only people who are convicted are prohibited from profiting from a crime. Casey Anthony was acquitted. The only thing preventing her from profiting is public outrage.

1133 days ago
40.

toasty    

for all those who feel sorry for her and think she is innocent, why don't you take her in and see for yourself that she is noting but a lying, stealing, babykiller. I hope you don't leave your kids home alone with her when she wants to go out and party! america is right to demand she face the justice she deserves. anyone with clear thinking knows she did it, and got away with it. i hope she meets up with karma sooner than later.

1133 days ago
41.

sandy    

isn't the trial finished?maybe Mr Baez need to go back to work?oh wait,he is in the media business now! one not guilty verdict and he thinks he has become a STAR!well we as a society are tired of all those stupid reality show! unfortunately this one involved a dead 3 years old!it is time for all of us to show the media that WITHOUT US,THEY ARE NOTHING!their fate will soon become like the music,movie industry! we won't need them anymore! so watch out all media out there! we have the power to change things around! and without all of us, you won't cash in! try to sell your rubbish news and it will be a Chanel of the past!we do not have to pay any longer for a CD or DVD,those industry were greedy enough,time for us to change the news networks as well!!!!!!!

1133 days ago
42.

tracker    

I AGREE WITH ALL THE POSTERS..ANY STATION WHO PAYS{IT,S WHAT IS IS.SELLING/BUYING PHOTO RITES} WE ARE NOT STUPID PEOPLE.I,LL BOYCOTT ANY STATION/ANY COMMERCIALS THAT ARE INVOLVED..CASEY NEEDS TO BE IN HELL!

1133 days ago
43.

Shread    

She will rake in MILLIONS but she will still be a Child Killer a liar and a whore. As for Baez? Karma will take care of that low life and his sneaky money hungry ways.
He was a hack zipperhead lawyer who now has a shot of cashing in.
The Universe has its ways of settling scores with this type of demon.

1133 days ago
44.

tracker    

GERALDO RIVIERA{A RAT LAWYER} IS JOSE BAEZ BEST FRIEND..& I DO BELIEVE CASEY IS HIDDEN ON GERALDOS YACHT JUST AS WAS REPORTED AND THAT GERALDO IS IN THE RUNNING FOR THE 1ST INTERVIEW..I HATE ALL THESE MONEY HUNGRY EGO DRIVEN MONSTERS..MAY YOU ALL REST IN PIECES..AS POOR CALLEE DID...

1133 days ago
45.

Diane    

Does it matter if they pay her or not?? Although the last thing I want is for anyone (that slimely lawyer, her or anyone else involved) the bottom line is why are we giving her any sort of attention. Payment or free - nobody wants to see her. I will boycott any TV/radio or magazine that has anything to do with her regardless if there is monitary gain or not.

1133 days ago
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