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MJ's Ex-Housekeeper

Key Witness in Wade's

Molestation Lawsuit

5/18/2013 12:45 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
EXCLUSIVE

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The Neverland housekeeper who graphically described seeing Wade Robson naked in a shower with Michael Jackson ... will play a huge role in whether Robson wins a cent from MJ's Estate in his new civil lawsuit, TMZ has learned.

Sources close to the case tell us Wade's lawyers are dissecting Blanca Francia's testimony during Jackson's 2005 molestation trial.

During the trial, Francia -- who worked at Neverland in the late '80s -- testified she witnessed Jackson showering naked with a 7 or 8-year-old Wade.

We obtained a transcript of the testimony in which Francia describes seeing Michael's underwear on the floor outside the shower, as well as Wade's child-sized neon green underwear.

She said she couldn't see what Michael was doing exactly because the shower door was fogged up, but said she heard him laughing.

Ultimately, Francia's testimony wasn't enough to sway the jury -- MJ was acquitted -- partly because Wade himself also testified, but insisted Michael never touched him.

TMZ broke the story ... Wade is planning to argue that MJ's companies -- MJJ Productions and MJJ Ventures -- had a duty to protect him because they were involved in recruiting him from Australia to work with Michael.

According to sources, Wade wants to use Blanca's testimony to show Michael abused him as a child. We're told Wade's lawyers are also trying to contact her to see if she will cooperate in the new case.

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301.

Dose Of Reality    

One of the funniest things that came out when the AEG trial started was how the Jackson's wanted MJ's paternity of those kids not to be a topic of conversation.


The funny part - Even the biggest, most rabid MJ fan couldn't even think it was a possibility that MJ fathered any of those kids by normal human heterosexual sex.

522 days ago
302.

Pegasus    

Witness: AEG spent $24 million on Jackson concerts
Associated PressBy ANTHONY McCARTNEY | Associated Press – 21 hrs ago..

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.FILE - In this March 5, 2009 file photo, Michael Jackson announces several concerts at the London O2 Arena in July, at a press conference at the London O2 Arena. An AEG Live accounting executive testified Monday, May 20, 2013, in a Los Angeles courtroom that the company spent $24 million on preparations for Jackson’s ill-fated “This Is It” shows, however never paid the singer’s personal doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter because a fully-signed agreement was never obtained. (AP Photo/Joel Ryan, file)View Photo.
FILE - In this March 5, 2009 file …

.FILE - In this June 23, 2009 handout photo provided by AEG, pop star Michael Jackson rehearses at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. An AEG Live accounting executive testified Monday, May 20, 2013, in a Los Angeles courtroom that the company spent $24 million on preparations for Jackson’s ill-fated “This Is It” shows, however never paid the singer’s personal doctor convicted of involuntary manslaughter because a fully-signed agreement was never obtained. (AP Photo/ Kevin Mazur, AEG/Getty Images, File) ** NO SALES, ARCHIVE OUT. MANDATORY CREDIT **View Photo.
FILE - In this June 23, 2009 handout …

.LOS ANGELES (AP) — An accounting executive for AEG Live LLC testified on Monday that the company spent $24 million producing Michael Jackson's ill-fated "This Is It" concerts.

The tally involved expenses compiled through October 2009, roughly three months after the singer's death, said Julie Hollander, a vice president and controller of event operations for AEG Live.

Hollander testified during the trial of a lawsuit filed by Jackson's mother against AEG claiming the company was negligent in hiring the doctor later convicted in the death of the pop star.

Budget do***ents shown in court indicated the company made no payments to the doctor, Conrad Murray.

AEG budgeted $150,000 a month for Murray's treatment of Jackson, but the singer died of an anesthetic overdose before he signed Murray's agreement.

Hollander said Murray's contract was the only one she had ever seen in which an artist had to approve a contract for services on a tour. She believed Jackson's signature was required because of the personal nature of the doctor's services.

In total, Murray was projected to receive $1.5 million in payments over the first few months of the "This Is It" tour, which was slated for 50 shows at London's 02 Arena.

Attorneys for Jackson's mother are trying to prove that AEG hired Murray and missed numerous red flags about the pop singer's health before his death.

AEG denies it hired Murray and says it bears no liability for Jackson's death.

Hollander also testified that Jackson was responsible for 95 percent of production expenses if his comeback shows were canceled. Budget do***ents indicated the production was more than $2 million over budget.

Hollander was the first AEG executive to testify in the lawsuit. The company's general counsel Shawn Trell began testifying on Monday.

Plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish questioned Trell about a July letter sent to Jackson's estate asking for more than $30 million in reimbursement, including $300,000 for Murray's services.

Trell said it was a mistake to include Murray's payments as production costs.

522 days ago
303.

Jermaine    

Wade is a piece of dried ****! Let Michael Rest in Peace. Wade is only doing this because he is broke after he f*cked Britney Spears, Justin found out hince (Cry Me A River), Then it was publicized to the industry, and no artist would be caught dead working with him as their Choreographer. Thats what this bull**** is about. Pointblank

522 days ago
304.

Pegasus    

latimes.com


Tuesday, May 21, 2013

3:34 p.m. PDT
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AEG sought life insurance on 'basket case' Michael Jackson


Michael Jackson in 2009 announcing his "This Is It" concerts in London.


By Corina Knoll
May 21, 2013, 3:00 p.m.

In the days before Michael Jackson’s death, AEG executives were still attempting to secure a life insurance policy on the performer who had been acting erraticly at rehearsals for his comeback tour, according to testimony and emails revealed in court Tuesday.


On June 19, 2009, a production manager for “This Is It” sent an email to AEG executives Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware that read, “MJ was sent home without stepping foot on stage. He was a basket case and [director] Kenny [Ortega] was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage or worse yet -- get hurt."

The email, whose subject line read “Trouble at the Front,” was forwarded by Phillips to then-AEG President and CEO Tim Leiweke with the note, “We have a real problem here."



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The emails were shown Tuesday to Shawn Trell, senior vice president and general counsel for AEG, who returned to the witness stand during the trial of the wrongful-death lawsuit brought by members of Jackson's family.

Trell testified earlier that Ortega did not have a signed contract with AEG, which was funding and promoting the concert series to be held at the 02 Arena in London. “Kenny Ortega is different,” Trell explained Monday, adding that the director was paid based on a series of emails.

But the attorney recanted that statement on Tuesday and said that Ortega did have a written contract with AEG. Trell said his memory had been “refreshed” after looking at court do***ents the night before.

The contract issue is key in the civil trial that pits Jackson’s mother and three children against entertainment company AEG, which stands accused of hiring and controlling Dr. Conrad Murray.

Murray is serving jail time for involuntary manslaughter after administering the fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to Jackson, who died on June 25, 2009. AEG contends that the doctor was brought on the tour at Jackson’s request and that the doctor’s salary was part of the multimillion-dollar advance to the singer. Although Murray had signed a contract with the company, neither Jackson nor anyone from AEG had added their signatures.

Trell testified that AEG does not do background checks on independent contractors. He said he was unaware of issues with Jackson at rehearsals.

“I knew of no problems with Michael Jackson at all,” Trell testified.

In January 2009, insurance broker Bob Taylor wrote an email to Trell that suggested Jackson be given a full medical exam with blood and urine tests and that Jackson’s medical history be reviewed.

The two continued to exchange emails, and on June 23 Trell asked for an update on the availability of life insurance.

Around that time, according to testimony from previous witnesses, Jackson had appeared frail and gaunt at rehearsals held at the Staples Center.

And in the week leading up to Jackson’s death, those involved with the tour appeared to be contemplating damage control.

Phillips wrote an email to Gongaware on June 20, 2009 at 1:52 a.m. that said he and Leiweke were going to visit Jackson. “I am not sure what the problem is. Chemical or physiological?”

Gongaware replied: “Take the doctor with you.”

On that same day, Ortega wrote an email to Phillips about the singer: “There are strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior. I think the very best thing we can do is get a top psychiatrist in to evaluate him ASAP.”

John Branca, Jackson’s attorney, also chimed in, sending an email marked “confidential” to a handful of people, including Phillips, Gongaware and Leiweke.

“I have the right therapist/spiritual advisor/substance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped Mike Tyson get sober and paroled) do we know whether there is a substance issue involved (perhaps better discussed on the phone).”

522 days ago
305.

Souza    

Blanca Francia told Diane Dimond and other reporters that she had seen a naked Jackson taking showers and Jacuzzi baths with young boys. She also told Dimond that she had witnessed her own son in compromising positions with Jackson — an allegation that the grand juries apparently never found credible.
A copy of Francia’s sworn testimony reveals that Hard Copy paid her $20,000, and had Dimond checked out the woman’s claims, she would have found them to be false. Under deposition by a Jackson attorney, Francia admitted she had never actually see Jackson shower with anyone nor had she seen him naked with boys in his Jacuzzi. They always had their swimming trunks on, she acknowledged.

http://doubledutchblogs.wordpress.com/2010/02/19/v-for-vendetta-v-for-vengeance/

521 days ago
306.

Joey Smith    

http://www.joevogel.net/michael-jackson-delayed-allegations-and-witch-hunts

521 days ago
307.

Pegasus    

AP News

Lawyer: No background check done on Jackson doctor


By By Anthony Mc Cartney

May 22, 2013

LOS ANGELES (AP) — AEG Live LLC did not conduct any background checks or supervise the doctor who was later convicted of killing Michael Jackson, a corporate attorney testified Tuesday in a lawsuit claiming the concert promoter was negligent in hiring the physician.

AEG Live General Counsel Shawn Trell told jurors that no legal or financial checks were done involving Conrad Murray or anyone else who worked as an independent contractor on the "This Is It" shows.

Jackson's mother Katherine is suing AEG claiming it failed to properly investigate Murray, who was deeply in debt when he agreed to serve as Jackson's tour physician in 2009 for $150,000 a month.

Trell said he thought a background check would be appropriate for people working in financial roles, but not tour personnel who weren't employees of AEG.

Murray's employment status is a central issue in the case. Katherine Jackson's lawyers contend he was hired by AEG, but the company denies it hired him and notes the singer died before signing the doctor's contract.

Trell also acknowledged while testifying that numerous people in the company knew of concerns that Jackson's health was declining.

Five days before Jackson died, AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips alerted the promoter's parent company that Jackson had missed a rehearsal and didn't appear to be ready for his comeback concerts.

"We have a real problem here," Phillips wrote in the message to the CEO of Anschutz Entertainment Group.

Trell agreed with a statement by plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish that company executives knew by then there was a "deep issue" with Jackson.

Trell also said he continued discussions with an insurance broker about additional coverage to recoup AEG Live's investment if the tour had to be canceled.

Hours after Phillips sent the warning email, attorney John Branca, who later became co-executor of Jackson's estate, offered to enlist a spiritual and substance abuse specialist to help Jackson, according to an email shown in court.

On that same day, Phillips and others met with Jackson and Murray at the singer's home.

Hours later, Phillips sent an email to tour director Kenny Ortega telling him not to worry. Ortega had expressed grave concerns about Jackson.

"This doctor is extremely successful — we check everyone out — and he does not need this gig so he (is) totally unbiased and ethical," Phillips wrote.

Panish called Phillips' statement "a flat out lie" and asked Trell whether he agreed with it or if it signified how AEG did business. Trell said he didn't know what Phillips thought he knew when he wrote the message.

"I know this statement is not accurate, but you'd have to speak with Mr. Phillips about what he thought or meant in saying it," Trell said.

Phillips is listed as a potential witness in the case, and Trell said he expects him to testify later in the trial.

Outside court, AEG's attorney Marvin S. Putnam declined comment on the email or Panish's characterization of it.

Trell also said on Tuesday that no one at AEG supervised or monitored Murray, who was convicted in 2011 of administering a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to Jackson.

Trell is considered the most knowledgeable person on numerous issues involving the shows, including contracts and Jackson's health. He has not yet been questioned by AEG's trial lawyers.

Earlier in the day, Trell revised previous testimony in which he told jurors that tour director Ortega worked on "This Is It" without a contract.

The lawyer said Monday that Ortega worked under an agreement forged through a series of emails but didn't have a signed contract.

On Tuesday, he told jurors he was mistaken, and Ortega did have a contract. The agreement was signed in April and included three pages of legal text and several pages of emails laying out the terms.

Trell said he had been reminded of Ortega's agreement by AEG's trial attorneys.

521 days ago
308.

Pegasus    


Sweet controversy at Michael Jackson death trial

By Alan Duke, CNN

updated 9:56 AM EDT, Wed May 22, 2013

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Every issue in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial is so disputed that even giving candy to jurors caused an argument.

AEG lawyers gave a bag of peppermint candy to the bailiff to hand out to the jury this week. Even Katherine Jackson -- the pop icon's mother -- enjoyed the treat.

But Jackson's lawyer raised an objection Tuesday afternoon, suggesting jurors might be influenced if they realized the source of the sweets.

A compromise was reached. Each side can provide snacks for jurors, but they'll be placed at the bailiff's desk before jurors enter court so they have no clue who brought it.

The death in 2009 of superstar Michael Jackson, who died of cardiac arrest at the age of 50, sent shockwaves around the world.


The Jackson 5 perform on a TV show circa 1969. From left, Tito Jackson, Marlon Jackson, Michael Jackson, Jackie Jackson and Jermaine Jackson.


Michael Jackson quickly became the stand out star of the Jackson 5. Here he performs onstage circa 1970.


Michael Jackson poses during a portrait session in Los Angeles in 1971.


Michael Jackson performs with The Jacksons in New Orleans on October 3, 1979.


Jackson achieved superstardom with his solo career in the 1980s. Here Jackson is shown on stage in Kansas in 1983.


Michael Jackson performs on stage circa 1990.


Jackson broke a world record during the Bad tour in 1988 when 504,000 people attending seven sold-out shows at Wembley Stadium in London.


Jackson perfoms in concert circa 1991 in New York City.


Known for his dance moves, Jackson is seen here jumping in the air while performing during the Dangerous tour in 1992.


Michael Jackson performs in Rotterdam, Netherlands.


Jackson performs with his brothers.


Jackson performs during the Bad tour at Wembley Stadium in London.


Jackson performs during the taping of "American Bandstand's 50th: A Celebration" in 2002.


Michael Jackson earned the Legend Award during the MTV Video Music Awards in Tokyo in 2006.


Photos: Michael Jackson, King of Pop Photos: Michael Jackson, King of Pop


Jackson wrongful death trial under way
While the candy controversy might seem trivial, the stakes are high for AEG Live. The promoter and producer of Michael Jackson's comeback concerts could be found liable for billions of dollars in damages if the jury decides the company is responsible for the star's death.

AEG execs face questions about Jackson's death

Jackson's mother and three children are suing AEG Live for the negligent hiring, retention or supervision of Dr. Conrad Murray, the physician convicted of involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death.

The candy argument may be the most interesting thing about Tuesday's proceedings, unless you are a student of employment law and budgeting.

AEG Live Senior Vice President/General Counsel Shawn Trell was on the stand for a second day hoping to give testimony that would convince the jury that Murray was chosen, hired and supervised by Jackson -- not his company.

Murray never had an executed contract with AEG Live, although one had been negotiated. The doctor signed it and returned it to the company on June 24, 2009, but the AEG Live executive decided not to sign it after Jackson died the next day.

Jackson lawyers contend Murray was already on the job, working under an oral agreement confirmed by a series of e-mails that promised him $150,000 a month to be Jackson's full-time physician.

With Trell on the stand, Jackson lawyer Brian Panish played part of an interview that AEG Live President Randy Phillips gave to Sky News television soon after Jackson's death.

"This guy was willing to leave his practice for a very large sum of money, so we hired him," Phillips said.

Panish also showed jurors an e-mail between AEG lawyers suggesting that Phillips told other interviewers AEG Live "hired" Murray.

Jackson's manager's e-mails found, could be key in AEG trial

Trouble at the Front

The Jackson lawyers argue that AEG Live executives ignored a series of "red flags" that should have alerted them that Jackson needed help as he prepared for his comeback concerts.

Earlier testimony from Jackson's makeup artist, choreographer and an associate director described his failing health and mental condition in the last two weeks of his life.

Panish asked Trell about e-mails titled "trouble at the Front" between AEG executives and people working on the production starting on June 19, 2009 -- a night that show director Kenny Ortega sent Jackson home because of his strange behavior.

"He was a basket case and Kenny was concerned he would embarrass himself on stage, or worse yet -- get hurt," production director John "Bugsy" Houghdahl wrote to AEG Live top execs Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware. "The company is rehearsing right now, but the DOUBT is pervasive."

Phillips forwarded the e-mail to his boss -- Tim Leiweke -- at AEG Live's parent company, with the comment: "We have a real problem here."

Jackson had missed a number of rehearsals and the "This Is It" tour debut was just three weeks away in London.

Wade Robson calls Jackson 'a pedophile'

Ortega, in an e-mail previously reported, told Phillips that same morning -- five days before Jackson died -- that he did not think he would be ready for the shows.

"I honestly don't think he is ready for this based on his continued physical weakening and deepening emotional state," he wrote. Ortega described seeing "strong signs of paranoia, anxiety and obsessive-like behavior" with Jackson. "I think the very best thing we can do is get a top psychiatrist to evaluate him ASAP."

Even John Branca, a former Jackson advisor and lawyer who had just been rehired, weighed in with advice in an e-mail: "I have the right therapist/spiritual advisor/substance abuse counselor who could help (recently helped mike tyson get sober and paroled) ... do we know whether there this is a substance issued involved (perhaps better discussed on the phone.)"

Does Trell consider that exchange a "red flag" that AEG Live should have noticed, Panish asked.

"I would take it seriously, as I believe Mr. Phillips did," Trell answered. "I don't know I would use the word 'red flag.'"

Phillip called a meeting the next afternoon with Murray at Jackson's home.

Afterward, he sent this e-mail to Ortega:

"Kenny, it is critical that neither you, me, or anyone around this show become amateur psychologists or physicians. I had a lengthy conversation with Dr. Murray, who I am gaining immense respect for as I get to deal with him more. He said that Michael is not only physically equipped to perform and that discouraging him to, will hasten his decline instead of stopping it. Dr. Murray also reiterated that he is mentally able to and was speaking to me from the house where he had spent the morning with MJ. This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he totally unbiased and ethical."

The Jacksons' lawyer called this e-mail "a flat out lie," since AEG Live had not done a background check on Murray before hiring him -- and if they had it would have disclosed that he was in deep debt and not a successful doctor.

"We did not do a background or credit check on Dr. Murray," Trell conceded.

Witness: 'Everybody was lying' after Jackson died

No due diligence

The Jackson lawyers contend that AEG Live is liable for his death because they did not do their "due diligence" by checking Murray's background and credentials.

If they had done so, they would have realized that Murray had a major conflict of interest that made him vulnerable to break rules in his treatment if Michael Jackson, they argue.

Murray needed the high-paying job because he was more than $1 million in debt, his home was being foreclosed on, he was being sued for unpaid child support and delinquent taxes, and his cardiology clinic in Las Vegas faced eviction. His $150,000 a month job would end if Jackson's shows were canceled or delayed, according to the terms of his contract.

AEG Live failed to conduct the background check, which the company's own expert witness said would between cost between $40 and $125.

"I am not familiar with the process of doing background checks," Trell said. "No training."

Trell is back on the witness stand Wednesday for questioning by AEG Live lawyer Jessica Stebbins Bina.

The trial, which is in its fourth week in a Los Angeles courtroom, is expected to last through July.

521 days ago
309.

Michelle    

Micheal is dead what is the point. OH yeah Money

521 days ago
310.

Tatyana    

Я думаю Wade Robson сам является педофилом. Его это мучает и он хочет признаться.

521 days ago
311.

Cry Baby    

Phantom, where are you???

Damn Tornado!

521 days ago
312.

Cry Baby    

1 when he -- when he gave you money, did he hand it to
2 you, or did he do something else? And if so, tell
3 us what that is.
4 A. He put the money in my shorts, because I
5 pulled it out, and that’s when my mom saw -- noticed
6 that I had pulled money out of my shorts and she
7 asked me where I got it from.
8 Q. Do you remember which of the three occasions
9 this was?
10 A. I can’t remember whether it was the first or
11 the second.
12 Q. But this was back when you were young?
13 A. Yeah.
14 Q. Seven or eight?
15 A. Seven or eight.
16 Q. You say in your shorts. What are we talking
17 about? In a pocket?
18 A. I don’t think my mom put pockets on the
19 shorts.
20 Q. That was a little more complicated?
21 A. She’s a good seamstress, but I don’t think
22 for shorts.
23 Q. Tell us as best you can recall where would
24 that money have been.
25 A. That would have been in my shorts.
26 Q. I’m sorry?
27 A. It would have been in my shorts.
1 A. In the inside.
2 Q. Do you know if the money was in your
3 underwear?
4 A. I don’t. I don’t know.
5 Q. Mr. Mesereau asked you yesterday questions
6 about whether you talked to your mother about what
7 had happened, and if so, to what extent.
8 Did you ever have a conversation with your
9 mother where you told her that you were molested?
10 A. I think I told her that I was molested in
11 counseling, because then she shared that she was
12 molested as well.
13 Q. Okay. Did you ever tell her the details of
14 the molestation?
15 A. No.
16 Q. What had happened, how it happened, how
17 often it happened, any of those types of details?
18 A. I don’t think so.
19 Q. To this day, have you ever?
20 A. To this day. My wife found out on the
21 stand.
22 Q. The details you had not yet told your wife?
23 A. Right.
24 Q. Have you ever told anybody the details other
25 than your therapist?
26 A. My pastor.
27 Q. Your pastor?
www.mjfacts.info28 A. And I don’t think I told him the details. 4948
www.mjfacts.info1 MR. ZONEN: Thank you. I have no further
2 questions.
3 THE COURT: Recross?
4 MR. MESEREAU: No further questions, Your
5 Honor.
6 THE COURT: All right. You may step down.


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Do you think MJ would stick money up Riri's ass crack???

521 days ago
313.

Pegasus    

Entertainment Tonight, Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 11:25am (PDT)
By ETonline

Janet Jackson has joined the exclusive billionaires club thanks to her mega-successful albums, tours and acting roles, Variety reports.


According to the publication, Jackson has raked in a total of $260... million in album sales thanks to her hit albums "Control" (1986), "Janet" (1993) and "Rhythm Nation" 1814 (1989), and another $81 million off music and publishing fees. Her sold-out world tours have earned her another $458 million, with an additional $81.5 million coming from tour sponsorships and licensing fees.


Pics: Star Sightings


And let's not forget that Jackson is an actress too -- her roles in "The Nutty Professor," "The Klumps," "Poetic Justice" and "For Colored Girls" has banked her a whopping $304 million.

Though Jackson of course isn't the only billionaire in her marriage -- her husband, retail entrepreneur Wissam Al Mana (whom she married last year in a private ceremony), is a billionaire all on his own.


Related: Janet Jackson Confirms Marriage!


Jackson joins the exclusive list of celebrity billionaires which includes Madonna, George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey.

521 days ago
314.

HumanNature    

AEG IS "DESPERATE"!!!!!!


THEY GAVE OUT "PEPPERMINT CANDY" TO THE JURY!!!!!


THAT'S "SWEET" BRIBERY!!!!!!


"PETTY" CROOKS IN ELEMENTARY SUIT!!!!!!


REGULAR FOLKS KNOW THE "DIFFERENCE"!!!!!


HA!!!!!

521 days ago
315.

HumanNature    

AEG sought life insurance on 'basket case' Michael Jackson


Pegasus


THAT'S A "GOOD" ONE!!!!!


JURORS WILL CLEARLY SEE THAT AEG WAS ALL ABOUT MONEY!!!!!!!


"DRUG OVERDOSE" INSURANCE POLICY!!!!!!!


THEY KNEW!!!!!!!


THAT'S WHY AEG IS GOING TO LOSE "BIG TIME"!!!!!!!!!


"QUACK", QUACK""!!!!!!

521 days ago
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