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Dr. Murray's Defense - Jackson Killed Himself

4/5/2010 8:15 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray's legal defense is that Michael Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol.

Multiple sources familiar with the strategy tell TMZ the defense argument goes like this:

- At around 10:50 AM, Dr. Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of Propofol from a 20 ml bottle -- that's only about 1/8 of the bottle.

- The dose Dr. Murray administered would keep someone asleep for only 5 to 10 minutes, but the Propofol, along with the Ativan and Versed that was already in MJ's system, had a synergistic effect that put Jackson to sleep for a longer period of time.

- For the next hour, Dr. Murray stayed in the room and was on the phone for much of the time. Dr. Murray didn't leave the room to make the calls because MJ liked activity in the room, regularly sleeping with the lights on and cartoons blaring on the TV.

- At around noon, Dr. Murray left the room for approximately two minutes to go to the bathroom. While he was gone, the defense believes Jackson suddenly awakened and was frustrated he had spent nearly 9 hours trying in vain to sleep. The defense theory -- Jackson took the 20 ml bottle of Propofol and self-injected the remaining contents through the IV, causing a massive overdose that stopped his heart.

- Dr. Murray walked back in the room and saw Jackson with his eyes open and pupils dilated. Dr. Murray dropped the phone (he was speaking with his girlfriend) and began administering CPR.

The defense will argue Michael Jackson was a long-time Propofol addict -- something TMZ first reported shortly after the singer's death. As one source said, Jackson liked the sensation of Propofol being administered by IV, adding, "Michael liked to push it."

L.A. County Coroner's investigators took a picture in the room, showing an empty Propofol bottle on the floor, underneath the nightstand by Jackson's bed. The defense will argue Jackson grabbed the bottle from the nightstand, injected himself and then dropped the bottle.

Remember, law enforcement believes Dr. Murray hid bottles of Propofol before paramedics arrived. The defense will argue ... if Dr. Murray was really hiding Propofol, he would have removed the empty bottle under the nightstand that caused Jackson's death.

Ed Chernoff, Murray's attorney, could not be reached for comment.



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811.

Thunder Thighs    

I cant believe people are still even talking about this stupid shit..really?? REALLY?? is there nothing else to talk about besides this?

1602 days ago
812.

getty    

1602 days ago
813.

ddberry    

MJs prints would be on the bottle if this is what happened. What dumb luck for Murray that for the 2 short minutes that he left the room after hours of keeping vigil, MJ popped awake and then took a whole bottle of propofol.

That's as unlucky as when Scott Peterson just happened to go fishing where his wife's body was eventually found.

What utter horsesh!t.

1602 days ago
814.

Thunder Thighs    

That is such a far-out defense. I agree, with all of the other drugs in his system, he wouldn't have been able or have enough strength to inject a needle into the right spot to begin with. Give me a break; that is sooooo weak!! Come on guys; this doctor is such a sleezebag. Like I said before, this Dr. is supposed to be a highly intelligent, well-educated professional cardiologest and to make mistake after mistake and then lie after lie is just outrageous. What's one more lie from his attorneys. They are just grasping at straws!!!

1602 days ago
815.

Elizabeth    

Sorry but I don't by that bs about MJ killing himself. MJ never would have done that. He loved his family to much especially his 3 kids and his friends and fans. Dr.Murray is trying to get out of the fact he killed him. Or MJ is really alive this is a hoax and the charges against him are fake.I pray all the time MJ is really alive and somewhere out there safe. He may be really dead but if he knew he was going to be killed 4 his money it's possible he could be in the witness protection.

1602 days ago
816.

Susan    

There was no way that Michael could of injected himself. As soon as propofol hits your veins your asleep. Murray is just grasping at straws to save himself. He was trying to save himself the day Michael was murdured, that's why Michael never received the proper CPR, according to the LAPD.

1602 days ago
817.

Regina    

Hey Elizabeth, reality check time! How old are you? No Elizabeth, there is no Santa Claus and Michael Jackson is really dead. He's as dead as Elvis. Or, do you think Elvis is still alive as well. Maybe. Possibly. Hmmm...maybe you could use a little Versed in your cocktail. Maybe a little Xanax. Maybe you'll be the one to spot him and Elvis at 7Eleven and confirm to whole world that Michael and Elvis are alive and well, living the gay lifestyle in the darkest corners of Alabama, partying like rock stars, getting drunk off of corn liquor. Maybe, just maybe, there is a Santa Claus, an Easter Bunny, a little, green, leprechan, ET, and talking scarecrows (oh wait, I did see a talking scarecrow one Halloween so scratch that one Elizabeth). Maybe, just maybe, if you squeeze your cheeks really hard (the glutes Elizabeth), bend over, and cough, Michael and Elvis will magically appear and sing a duet of "You Are Not Alone". Or do reindeer really know how to fly and we've all been suckered into believing it's just a fairy tale?

1602 days ago
818.

Regina    

While I believe Michael loved his family and his adopted children a great deal, I still believe he wanted to die and he chose the way in which he would go. I remember hearing in a movie, "Alexander wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer." What else was left for Michael to do? He'd done it all so why not take the high road? (You'll pardon the pun) Why not go out like so many rock stars before him, hooked on drugs, pitiful to behold, a real train wreck? It makes sense to me. When my brother called to tell me Michael had died, I just knew he was playing some horrible joke on me. I immediately turned to MSNBC and there it was, boom, in your face! Michael is possibly dead? Huh? Well is he or isn't he? They weren't saying it but I knew all the same. Of course he's dead. He so idolized Elvis that he married the man's daughter and decided to leave like him, sick, pitiful, and drug addicted. Wow, how's that for life imitating art? Talk about hero whorship. While I feel sorry for his family, paid for friends, and adopted children, I can't help but wonder, where were all of you during this boys formative years when your influence would've really mattered or was he so incredibly crazy that nothing you could've said or done been able to stop this train wreck on the tracks? This boy was sick and I mean in every sense of the word, mentally, physically, emotionally, and developmentally. The sickest part is, some money whoring, raggedy, disgusting, fat, pig of a female like Debbie Roe and some other equally as disgusting female actually handed over their children to him to be raised and nutured by this sick boy. Where were the buffers in this boy's life? Did anyone surrounding him have any common sense or decency at all? I say, put them all in jail. Everyone that had anything to do with him, put them in jail! Mother Jackson included. What kind of weak nitwit was she to allow this to happen to her child? What kind of punk of a father was Joseph Jackson to allow this to happen to his son? They should all go to jail post haste!

1602 days ago
819.

Regina    

Amazing...absolutely amazing. The good Doc is saying MJ injected himself with a drug that knocks a person out within a matter of seconds. Uh...yeah...okay. Once again, I just look this stupid. I'm really not as dumb as I look. Seriously, I'm not. Give me a break here Doc, give us all a break. Why is this even open for discussion? I was a loyal Jackson/Michael Jackson fan from the tender age of 6 years old. I'm now 45 years old. Michael Jackson has been chasing death for a long time and he finally caught it or it caught him. Either way, the guy is dead and gone, not hanging out with Elvis and Tupac at 7Eleven. While Dr. Murray had a great deal to do with his method of suicide, why isn't anyone stating the obvious, Michael wanted to die, plain and simple. I feel sorry for this guy Dr. Murray. He got caught up in the "Hollywood Machine" and got pulverized. He forgot about his oath and allowed a spoiled, pampered, self-indulgent, boy playing at manhood to get him caught up in a scandal that will live on long after even he has died. His name will forever be linked with Michael's and he will forever be known as the doctor you love to hate all because of the almighty dollar.

1602 days ago
820.

mymjj5    

It was public knowledge that the lovable Micheal Jackson was also demanding and wanted what he wanted when he wanted it.



Okay Mike was so demanding as Murray would have us believe. When/if Mike woke up while murray was out of the room, mike would have demanded that murray bring his azz back and provide another dosage.



After all Murray was on Mike's payroll for apprx $100K per month. Why would such a demanding person do for himself what he's paying someone else to do. Where's the logic Murray, where's the logic!



(according the cook, she was not allowed upstairs. dr. murray would come downstairs to retrieve Mike's food and beverages personally).



In order to get out of this mess, Murray and his team of bandits have to show reasonable doubt. They can show doubt, but there is nothing reasonable about murray's action or conduct. (unless your are lying and covering up your guilt).

1601 days ago
821.

Nightflower    

I do not believe that Michael killed himself. First: Michael was afraid of needles, so he would not inject himself.
Next: the IV was being administered through his leg. So I suppose the IV drip would have been at the end of his bed, not next to him. And he only had 2 minutes to do all this.



Why did the doctor hide the drugs if he was innocent? Why would he not tell the paramedics and the UCLA doctor that he had given MJ Propofol? So many questions; I think this doctor is a liar!!

1601 days ago
822.

TalkAboutJustice    

Justice for MJ. Dr. Murray is guilty and the death of the King of Pop rests on his shoulders. There is not enough evidence to support what he says. If he walks out innocent, our system is twisted. Court will crush him and justice will come. It makes sick to see all of this. Dr. Murray will go down.



As much as I would like to think otherwise, Michael will never return. He has passed, eyes closed forever. The coroner office had his body wrapped up. There are too many witnesses of his still body to say he is alive. The Hoax stuff is not true, its sick for people to get others hopes up. Who would fake their death and hurt billions of people? Not Michael. Who would destroy lives worldwide over a false death? Not Michael. He wouldn't do that and whoever thinks he did you must not know who Michael Jackson truely was and what he stood for. STOP with the "he's alive" stuff, its not true. Michael would never hurt anyone like that.



RIP: The Greatest Entertainer Ever
MICHAEL JACKSON<3

1601 days ago
823.

marson    

To those of you who are upset that the judge is not going to allow camera's in the court room for the trial of Conrad Murray please send a email to webmail@da.lacounty.gov and ask them to reconsider. Use the contact us link. We fans think of Michael as part of our extended family, and we want to see justice done for Michael. Spread the word too. If they receive enough emails they may reconsider. It's worth a try.

1601 days ago
824.

WALTER NEWBY    

IF HE HAD ADMINISTERED THE DRUG HIMSELF WHY WOULD HE HIRE A ONSTAFFED DOCTOR.PLUS THERE WAS A BIG GAP OF TIME WHEN HE DISCOVER HIS PATIENT AND INSTEAD OF CALLING 911 HE CALLED HIS OFFICE IN ANOTHER STATE.I AGREE MICHAEL MAY HAVE BEEN AN ADDICT,BUT ITS A CLEAR CASE OF AN ENABLER BEING OPPORTUNISTIC BECAUSE OF THE DOE AND DID'NT KNEW WHAT THE HELL HE WAS DOING.PLUS YOU DONT BREAK SOMEONES RIBS GIVING THEM CPR.I WAS ADMINISTERED THE SAME STUFF BEFORE AN OPERATION AND BROTHER IT WITH TAKE YOU MUCH MORE THAN 2 MINUTES TO MAKE SENSE OF ANYTHING.PLUS ANY AMOUNT STOPS YOUR BREATHING.PERIOD.

1600 days ago
825.

John Burton    

Michael Jackson was a drug addict. I would never vote to convict his doctor for his death. He chose to die when he elected to do drugs habitually. He would have died from his addiction even if he had Sweet Jesus on his staff. Why should a doctor who spent so many years learning an honorable profession be defrocked be-
cause of the death of another addict ??

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