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Michael Jackson's Mom Cleans House

4/27/2010 5:00 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has learned ... Katherine Jackson is downsizing the number of grandchildren in her San Fernando Valley mansion -- and the stun gun incident was the catalyst.


Sources with direct knowledge of the situation tell TMZ ...  Katherine has told Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza -- who is currently living at the estate, along with two of her kids by Randy Jackson and two others by Jermaine Jackson -- that she must take the kids and move out of the estate next week, because supervising seven children is just too much for the 79-year-old grandmother.

But don't think Katherine is heartless.  It's the opposite.  She's moving Alejandra, along with Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte and Randy Jr. to a San Fernando Valley condo owned by the estate.

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We're told the move was prompted by the stun gun incident last month. TMZ broke the story that 13-year-old Jaafar bought a stun gun online and fired it in the house.  Sources say Jaafar pointed the gun at two of Michael's kids, but the family denies that. 

The L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services came to the estate, took the gun and interviewed people in the home, and it became apparent seven kids were too much for Katherine to handle. 

So as of next week, Prince, Paris and Blanket will have the run of the mansion, unobstructed.


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1141.

Cher    

To all MJ Investigators/Detectives:
Check out this link it has an article that points out the players and gives quite a bit of info on the fight for Neverland and the SONY-ATV Catalog that will confirm the MJ Conspiracy Circle for some and open the eyes of others:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/05/deep-pockets-behind-michael-jackson.html
http://buzz.hollywoodreporter.com/2009/05/31/michael-jackson-colony-capital-neverland/
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER......

1604 days ago
1142.

Tellit    

1172. Tellit...
You still believe MJ is alive? Just curious. I thought that for a long time, and even held out a very slight chance for it up until Lopez. I'm 99.99% convinced MJ is dead. Just wondering if you still believe he is alive somewhere.
Posted at 8:01 PM on May 3, 2010 by Chico
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Yes I do still believe that Chico.
On another note....still no LA obit for Peter Lopez.
Have you read one?

1603 days ago
1143.

Tellit    

PS Chico: Lopez suicide gives me even more reason to believe it.

1603 days ago
1144.

The Netherlands    

Yeah Right!



Michael is NOT alive, you're really pathetic!
I wish it was true but come on people, why should he fake his dead anyway? Michael was loved by millions of people, and he would NEVER leave his kids!



You're really talking crap!




LOVE YOU MJ

1603 days ago
1145.

Chico    

No obit yet, Tellit. Looked today for it or at least a memorial service that might have been planned. Nothing. Only been 3 days thought, so hopefully soon. Pretty predictable that the note had nothing significant in it....like if it did, the public would ever hear about it.

1603 days ago
1146.

Cher    

Katherine the Great - 2.4...
-#1132,1139: Have to say that I always had my issues with Branca and Co.,it just seemed too convenient that they just materialized with this will that HAPPENS to list them as the Executors. Problem is, I have to admit it was simply a gut reaction, not based in fact--but I find my gut reaction is usually the one to go with.
Not to mention the fact that Branca was fired by Michael in the past--a fact that he denies BTW, he claims he quit because Michael was letting people into his life "who didn't have his best interests at heart." What were the "best interests"? Sony, Tommy Mottola's pockets and his own? Clearly, Michael had problems with Mottola/Sony because of how he handled promotion of "Invincible"--MIchael was counting on the sales of this CD to help pay his note on the Sony-ATV, but when there was no promotion, sales were low and the loan defaulted. Meanwhile, Michael accused Branca of embezzling his money and putting it into offshore accts. Branca denies this of course, and the case was dropped because Michael failed to show up in court...wonder who 'advised' him to do that? Can we say Tohme? Again just a gut reaction...
As for the will being fake, I think more people would've seen the logic in this if it hadn't been spearheaded by Catfish Joe and Oxman. Malnick claims there was a 2004 will--if we can believe him as he's a part of the "conspirator's circle" himself with connections to the underworld and such. He also claims he was to be the Executor...uh-huh...AND there are rumors that he's Blanket's dad--a rumor that he probably helped to fuel...
BTW--Mymjj, Although I personally have my problems with Joe and celebrated their rejection of his claim, I do think he needs to be cared for. I don't think he ever recovered from that stroke he had back in the day and he appears to be approaching senility at times. A lawyer with his best interests would've presented the Estate with a modest, detailed budget for Joe, not one that asks for thousands per month for travel and "eating out in restaurants daily"...ugh!
Bottom line, whatever my feelings about Joe and Oxman, I do think the will should've been rejected--the fact that the wrong city is listed on will--it has LA when it has been proven that Michael was in NYC at that famous meeting where he called Mottola "very devilish". There has also been accusations that it wasn't his actual signature--that the handwriting matches Branca's...what a FRIEND!
I had supported Team Branca and the will for a minute because it meant that MJ3 and Katherine would be well taken care of and Joe and the siblings couldn't touch it, but after the Executors got ballsy enough to ask and get that 10% incentive, I saw the light. It would've been different if they had waited a year or so, but to do it this soon tells me they have no regard for Michael or his legacy, they only want to line their own pockets. Sorry, but for me, the only people allowed to get rich off of Michael's legacy are his children--they deserve it not just because they are his children, but because they are the only ones who solely loved and supported Michael UNCONDITIONALLY. Katherine loved him, but her loyalties have always been for the "greater good of the family", which often meant Michael was being used to support that. Michael was used by people all of his life and it continues even now, but I'll be darned if I sit back and support it!
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!!!

1603 days ago
1147.

Cher    

Katherine the Great 2.5....
-#1157: Chico, looks like you already had posted those links included in my 1st post tonight. Sorry for the repeat to anyone who had already been there. BTW--Kudos for all of your great research on this.
With the reveal of his suicide note, I'm almost convinced it had something to do with Michael. An article I read had friends saying he had been stressed and troubled recently, but wouldn't confide in anyone as to what was bothering him. I also think he knew about the conspiracy, the will, Neverland, Sony-ATV and the whole darn thing! He was Michael's lawyer for only 2 yrs, but they appear to be 2 of his most active years for business with all of the refinancing, concert negotiations and repackaging that was going on.
Check out this article below and do the math:
AEG has proposed a three-year tour starting in Europe, then traveling to Asia and finally returning to the United States. Although Jackson has only committed to the O2 engagement thus far, Phillips estimates ticket sales for the global concerts would exceed $450 million.
"One would hope he would end up netting around 50% of that," Phillips said.
Barrack, the man who set Jackson's comeback in motion, has seen his net worth drop with the financial crisis of the last year. Forbes estimated his wealth at $2.3 billion around the time he met Jackson, but he is now merely a multimillionaire. He said that the economic downturn makes Jackson even more attractive as an investment because his value has been overlooked: In times like this, he said, "finding little pieces of information that others don't have" is more important than ever.
His company isn't exposed to any risk by working with Jackson. All the money Colony has put up is backed by the value of Neverland and related assets, he said. If Jackson regains firm financial footing, Barrack's company could be a partner in future deals. "When he looks back and says, 'Who took the risk? Who was there?' I mean, he gets it. So that's my hope," Barrack said.
It all depends on what happens July 13 when the lights go down in the O2 Arena. Doubts about Jackson's reliability are widespread because of his long concert hiatus. Those concerns were heightened earlier this month when the show's opening night was pushed back five days. Phillips and Ortega, the director, blamed production problems and said Jackson was ready to perform.
Fans demonstrated their faith in Jackson months ago when they snapped up 750,000 tickets for shows through March 2010 in less than four hours. "We could have done 200 shows if he were willing to live in London for two years," Phillips said.
Amid the high stakes, Phillips has taken a hands-on approach more reminiscent of his early days as a talent manager for acts including Guns N' Roses and Lionel Richie than as the company's chief executive.
A REPUTATION, A DO-OR-DIE MOMENT
In addition to the more than $20 million AEG is paying to produce the shows, the company is putting its reputation on the line for a performer with a track record of missed performances and canceled dates. In a video news conference earlier this month, Phillips acknowledged that the company has only been able to insure 23 of the 50 "This Is It" performances."In this business, if you don't take risks, you don't achieve greatness," Phillips said.
Phillips said he speaks with Jackson regularly and has closely monitored rehearsals in a Burbank soundstage. In response to questions about his physical condition, especially in light of his previous addiction to prescription painkillers, Phillips said that Jackson passed a rigorous medical examination. Associates also say he adheres to a strict vegetarian diet and works out with a personal trainer.
But the problems that have bedeviled Jackson in the past -- infighting, disorganization and questionable advisors -- persist.
In an interview last week, Tohme identified himself as the singer's "manager, spokesman, everything" and spoke about the benefits of dealing with business titans Barrack and Anschutz rather than their "sleazy" predecessors. "Michael Jackson is an institution. He needs to be run like an institution," Tohme said.
The next day, however, longtime Jackson associate DiLeo claimed he was Jackson's manager and said Tohme had been fired a month and a half earlier. Tohme denied being fired but declined further comment.
In April, Jackson fired the accounting firm, Cannon & Co., that had worked for him for a year, according to an accountant who worked on his finances. Jeff Cannon of Cannon & Co. said he received a phone call from an assistant of Jackson who said the singer no longer required his services.
Then there is Arfaq Hussain. A British man who met Jackson in the late 1990s, Hussain designed clothing for the performer -- including an air-conditioned jacket, a pair of self-adjusting, rhodium-plated shoes and the "Crystal Miracle," a jacket covered with 275,000 rock crystals -- and tried to launch a business selling $75,000 bottles of perfume by trading on Jackson's name.
In 2002, Hussain was jailed for four months in Britain for charges related to business fraud. Hussain and Jackson recently became reacquainted and the singer hired him as an assistant, DiLeo said.
The woman who was Jackson's public face during his criminal trial, former manager and spokeswoman Raymone Bain, is pressing a federal breach of contract suit against the singer. Bain claims that Jackson cheated her out of her 10% cut of several business deals, including the AEG concerts. Bain is to ask a judge in Washington, D.C., next month to seize the portion she alleges is hers, citing Jackson's history of evading creditors.
In his corner office high above Century City, Barrack is sanguine about reports of disharmony.
"You have the same thousand parasites that start to float back in and take advantage of the situation and that has happened a little at the edges," he said. But, he added, he had confidence in AEG's ability to keep Jackson focused.
The concerts, Phillips acknowledged, are a do-or-die moment for Jackson.
"If it doesn't happen, it would be a major problem for him career-wise in a way that it hasn't been in the past," he said.
--Chris Lee and Harriet Ryan



No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER and MISS-U-SO-MUCH!!!!

1603 days ago
1148.

Adam    

Why don't you just LEAVE MICHAEL JACKSON'SFAMILY ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1603 days ago
1149.

Tellit    

Why can't THE JACKSON FAMILY JUST LEAVE THE WORLD ALONE!!!!!! ?

1603 days ago
1150.

mymjj_5    

MJ was a dirty nasty little freak.

1603 days ago
1151.

Chico    

Randy Bachman (of Bachman-Turner Overdrive?) remarks of MJ's bizarre events after his death, and Lopez suicide..."You ain't seen nothing yet."



http://www.torontosun.com/entertainment/celebrities/.../13820961.html



Still digging up as much as I can on Lopez, but info is barely trickling onto the internet.



1603 days ago
1152.

Chico    

Tellit, I'm assuming you have already see the semi-obit and funeral arrangements for Peter Lopez in Santa Monica on Thursday. If not, here is the link.



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/afterword

1603 days ago
1153.

Tellit    

Thnx Chico.
some kinda stupid sounding questions.
Why is the Sun quoting Randy Bachman? What's Bachmans connection here to any MJ/Lopez information? ?
and.
Do celebrities/semi celebrities not submit personal obits? You know like regular obits...with all the background info and stuff.
and
In a RadarOnline report 5/3 John Schneider quote...
"I saw him only 3 weeks ago, and he seemed fine," Schneider said. "Never underestimate the hard times that we are in, especially if you are a parent."
Does that imply that Lopez was in some type of distress regarding one of his children? Sounds like a statement someone would make if someones child/children were in danger. "especially if you're a parent"
Lopez strikes me as a person who was level headed not someone who would jeopardize his family's financial future by committing a rash suicide. (life insurance/etc)
Your feedback when/if you have the time.

1602 days ago
1154.

Tellit    

C..In case you haven't come across these links.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/2007/lope041807.htm
Suicide possibly something to do with the boxing industry/
commission/etc?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=6260...4
Have you come across a filmography for Peter Lopez? I know he was co-producer for Selena.
I had hold of an article by a Latino publication re Lopez/Athletic C...and the dang thing up and became not available while I was copying the link. Poof.
Later.

1602 days ago
1155.

Chico    

Tellit and whoever else is reading this:



If you have interest in Lopez ties, please read the following:



http://www.michaeljackson.hu-Downloads-RaymoneBainLawsuit1.pdf



This court doc is the one Bain filed against MJ for $44 million. Of particular interest are the names on page 5...#15. Also, you will see that Bain hired an unnamed accounting firm to scrutinize MJ's finances. Note the date on that.



The names on #15 on that doc will take you many places. One of the important ones is the Venerable Law Firm in L.A. It is HUGE, with 600 lawyers. Just one example is Gregory Cross, who is mentioned as hired by Bain in her court doc. Ultimately, Cross is the attorney who made the deal with Colony Capital for Neverland. Have you ever heard the name Gregory Cross before? I hadn't.



I have been working for HOURS on this, and I feel like I've only scratched the surface. The point being that at the time that Bain and Lopez were in the employ of Michael Jackson, there were all kinds of things brewing. Lopez knew about ALL of it. So the question remains...what stressed this man out to the point of killing himself? (And yes Tellit, I do agree that Schneider's comment would lead one to believe that his children/family may have been threatened.)



10 months down, and who knows how far to go in this epic tale of MJ.

1602 days ago
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