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Lindsay Probation Report: She's Been Drinking Again!

3/17/2011 8:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Lindsay Lohan's probation report says she's been drinking fermented tea that contains alcohol -- yeah, big whoop. 

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Sources familiar with the report tell TMZ ... Lindsay fessed up to her probation officer ... she was drinking Kombucha tea, which has an alcohol content of 0.5% or less ...  and now the L.A. County Probation Department added it to the list of reasons why the judge should violate her probation and send her to jail.

Lindsay was so bold ... she actually left one of her alcohol ed classes clutching a bottle of Kombucha.

That plea bargain's sounding better than ever.


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jwoolman    

Bii at #75: "Sprite. 7up, Mt. Dew all have about the same amount of alcohol(.4-.5%) all of those lemon/lime sodas"

Sounds like an urban legend to me. That's actually a significant amount of alcohol (especially for kids who have much lower blood volume, and especially considering how much soda kids often drink in the USA) and somehow I think the FDA would have been onto it sooner as something that had to be on the label... It should have been picked up in any routine check of ingredients/contaminants. Although various chemicals can end up in things as residues from processing, that is an easily detectable amount. 0.5%, if we assume volume percent, would be 2.5 milliliters (cc's) in a 500 mL (16.9 oz) bottle, or about half a teaspoon of pure ethanol.

Maybe someone saw some other chemical compound derived from alcohol in a list? For instance, sugar alcohols (sorbitol, mannitol, xylitol etc.) are not the same thing as ethanol. Much bigger molecules, processed very differently by the body. They can be used as sweeteners in diet sodas. Some people react badly to sugar alcohols, but they aren't getting drunk on them... . Most people are at risk for diarrhea from too much of such sweeteners, however, although I don't know what the percentage would be in a glass of soda. Xylitol is one of the safer ones (and good for your teeth, 6 grams a day is recommended for that), and usually they say up to at least 150 grams per day is okay. So the numbers are probably lower for sorbitol (a very common sweetener). A standard sugar packet size (for adding to coffee etc.) for xylitol is about 4 grams.

The alcohol in Lindsay's favorite tea, however, is deliberately there (not an unwanted residue from processing) and is definitely ethanol - it's fermented, that's how alcoholic beverages are made from all sorts of plant material and fruits. My guess is that for older bottles especially, the percentage of alcohol is higher than on the label because fermentation can continue. Not much for most people, but stupid for an alcoholic (especially one who guzzles the stuff like Lindsay) and very likely prohibited on probation for her since her original crimes were alcohol-related. So her continued use of it may be considered as part of a scoff-law pattern.

1128 days ago
257.

ps    

what an idiot. had she been a person of color, she would have already been serving time.

1128 days ago
258.

Michael P Byrne    

That is less alcohol than a fresh squeezed glass of orange juice. Surprised....

1128 days ago
259.

jwoolman    

Just occurred to me - if Lindsay "confessed" she was drinking the tea heavily, must have been a reason to do so. Slightly dirty test?

1128 days ago
260.

campy    

I wonder if she drinks mouth wash. I heard that some alcoholics drink mouth wash to get drunk. You never know, she might. Some mouth wash tastes good too, like that Listerine stuff. Lindsay might be drinking Listerine. Someone should really be checking on that.

1128 days ago
261.

jwoolman    

Someone mentioned the tea was taken off shelves last June because of problems with the alcohol content. I googled "kombucha tea" plus "recall" and yes, that did happen. Don't know what the current status is, but at the time the feds said they were finding alcohol levels high enough in some bottles to justify taxing the stuff as an alcoholic beverage... The company was busily reformulating it and some stores were restocking it by sometime in July, but the government investigation was continuing.

Whole Foods tested some itself and found 3% to 4% alcohol, which was 6 to 8 times the labeled amount. As I had suspected, fermentation was continuing in the bottle. Hic.

1128 days ago
262.

Shig    

I hear there is an opening for reactor core replacement technicians in Japan. Maybe we could just send her over to do that. At least she would be doing some good in the world.

1128 days ago
263.

jwoolman    

Nick at #176: "Are they supposed to violate her probation if she has some Nyquil too? Retarded!"

Uh, yeah, they would if she took it soon enough before the test so it would show up (or noticed the piles of empty Nyquil bottles in her car...). The only thing that would save her would be that alcohol leaves the system fairly quickly, although there's a blood test that can detect it even 3 days later. Nyquil used to be 25% alcohol (50 proof!), there's a reason they sold it with a plastic shot glass.... I think it is lower alcohol now, but still in the "alcoholic beverage" category if you're on probation and not allowed alcohol. Alcoholics are stupid to take Nyquil, just a little bit of alcohol can trigger their cravings and it would just be an unnecessary risk. If you're being tested routinely, the codeine in some medicines could easily get you tossed back in jail since that lingers in your system longer.

I know that if I were on probation that required "no alcohol", I certainly wouldn't take Nyquil without written permission from my probation officer. Actually, I would just go for non-alcoholic remedies. On a SCRAM, they usually give you a whole list of personal care products, medications, beverages etc. that you need to avoid. It all can easily add up to quite enough to register.

1128 days ago
264.

jwoolman    

"Kombucha tea has less alcohol content than a glass of orange juice.. "

Uh, only if you leave the glass of orange juice out of the fridge for a few days... Then yes, thanks to yeasts present naturally, it will ferment to form detectable alcohol, as will other fruit juices (consider the difference between fresh apple cider vs. hard apple cider - the alcoholic drink has been allowed to ferment). That's a common lab experiment, to analyze spoiled fruit juice for alcohol content. But you're really not sending the kiddies off to school with a buzz from the fresh stuff.

And of course this assumes that the tea really is max 0.5% alcohol, while before they reformulated last July - it usually exceeded that limit quite a bit, especially since it kept on fermenting in the bottle. It's been clocked at 3% or 4% at least. Lindsay was drinking at least 8-9 bottles a day back last Spring or early Summer, and apparently each bottle is at least two glasses. Her urine must have been clear as water... :)

1128 days ago
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babygurl54    

what part o "0" alcohol is so hard to understbecause and? when this stupid bitch kills an innocent erson because of her drinking & driving cause she thinks she's above the law will it be silly & a waste of time? i'd rather see her ass in jail than someone dead because she won't follow the terms of her probation. enuff time has been spent trying 2 save her, go & stay in jail like every other eron who violates the terms of probation no matter how small the amount of alcohol.

1128 days ago
266.

Mike    

"Are they supposed to violate her probation if she has some Nyquil too? Retarded"

If it could result in a dirty test? Yes.

People seem to forget that during a probationary period, you are not afforded the same freedoms you had prior. It's a form of supervised punishment and just like being out on bond, it has a number of conditions attached to it in exchange for not remaining in custody. These conditions often include: reporting to a PO at scheduled times, avoiding contact with specific individuals, avoiding the consumption or use of any product that may contain alcohol or other ingredients that might result in a "dirty" test, travel restrictions, completion of court-ordered classes, payment of probation-associated fees, etc.

You may feel that these conditions are restrictive and unfair but anyone on probation agrees to these terms - in writing - in lieu of jailtime. They are not designed to make your life "easier" but to ensure that you comply with the terms to the court's satisfaction. If you don't agree to them, you can finish the remainder of your sentence behind bars. It's your choice but you don't have the right to complain about it once you've made it.

1128 days ago
267.

mike    

.5% ? Eat a banana and go to jail. What's the system gonna cook up next as a parole violation?

1128 days ago
268.

Get real    

Do you know who should be put in jail for wasting taxpayer money? All the cops, judges and prosecutors who are making a career on this little trollop.

Less than .5% alcohol is generally considered non-alcoholic. For heavens sake, ORANGE JUICE can naturally contain .5% alcohol.

It's time to put the Lindsay show to rest. It's getting really old and we really don't care.

1127 days ago
269.

JLP    

Oh please. You know what else has .5% alcohol in it? Non alcoholic beer. Although I do agree that it could be an attempt at cover up for a hot test. I used to work at an addiction treatment facility in the military and they don't **** around with this stuff-- if you piss hot on a drug test, you're hot, no matter what the reason is. They don't care if you really just ate a billion poppy seeds the day before.

1127 days ago
270.

becky    

i went to rehab for drugs, and during outpatient aftercare i actually did drink kombucha during group sessions, so if they ever randomly tested me, i could blame the alcohol in my blood on the tea (since i was drinking it in front of them). i actually do like kombucha, and i only made the mistake of drinking once during outpatient, but i made sure to bring some kombucha the next day, just in case. so i think the commenter above might be right, that she is doing it to cover up drinking. i had other addicts suggest this to me at the time, actually.

btw i am now clean off heroin but still drink sometimes :)

1127 days ago
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