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Chuck Lorre -- Blasting Charlie With Monkey Jokes?

4/29/2011 12:05 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Chuck Lorre is taking a vicious shot at an actor -- accusing him of being a drug addict who is "impossible to work with" ... but the shocker is he's NOT talking about Charlie Sheen. Maybe.

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At the end of last night's "The Big Bang Theory" ... Lorre's vanity card seems to be joking about a monkey that was on the episode -- saying its "behavior became increasingly erratic, to the point of refusing to come out of his trailer to rehearse."

The card continues, "The monkey is a heroin addict. Yes, hard as it may be to believe, the monkey had a monkey on his back." It goes on to say the monkey is in detox and a 12 step program.

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But after Lorre's announcement he's retooling "Two and a Half Men" without Charlie -- and Charlie's nuclear response, we gotta ask ...





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286.

Nancy    

ksis less than a minute ago

What is it with you? Go and search for those reviews or tweets or whatever. Stalking me just makes you look pathetic.

*****

That begs the question, though, since you respond to each post made, who, precisely, is stalking whom?
;)

1187 days ago
287.

ksis    

@PFFFT

And you know what's scary to me? That people like JWLor, Nancy and RR have supporters like you. On second thought...That's not really scary...Just predictable.

1187 days ago
288.

Autumn_in_Michigan    

@Nancy

Minxster outed ksis officially as a liar about her name calling.

1187 days ago
289.

Autumn_in_Michigan    

@ksis,

Stating facts doesn't necessarily imply support or even agreement with a person, their position, or their behavior.

1187 days ago
290.

Nancy    

PFFFT! 6 minutes ago

@Nancy

Minxster outed ksis officially as a liar about her name calling.

*****

That's right, but I wanted to get it out there again. I don't think you can overemphasize that fact for those who might not realize it yet.

She LIES. She's a HYPOCRITE, willing to change her story to suit whatever might look best for Charlie the Tuna at any given moment. She ATTACKS first and plays victim later.

Like her Messiah, she is either in need of intensive psychiatric assistance, or she's fried her brain with drugs. Matters little to me either way - her vacuousness knows no bounds.

1187 days ago
291.

ksis    

Let's find out about the stalking thing. I will go back to ignoring and we'll see who is gonna keep answering my every post. LOL

@PFFFT

You are in threads regarding Charlie Sheen and you keep talking about me. Weird. Now if you want you can go back and read Nancy's posts where she says that JWLor "had a point", where RR says that she will "keep backing him up". I am not interested enough in proving anything to you or them.
;)

1187 days ago
292.

RoastBeef    

The Messiah and his followers need to move to a compound.
Does anyone here with an OPEN MIND see the similarities?


CULT MENTALITY:

(1) Cult members are “focused on a living leader to whom members seem to display excessively zealous, unquestioning commitment.” The leader is a strong-willed, domineering character who rules the group with tight control. He lets it be known in subtle ways that he is in charge of the movement. He makes the plans, he orchestrates the movements of the group or groups (sometimes he exercises his sway over several groups). He dispatches the workers, assigns their chores, etc.

Frequently, they even begin to imitate his mannerisms in terms of voice inflection, language patterns, aggressive attitudes, etc. They become clones of their esteemed leader. It is not uncommon that the leader knows of weaknesses or past problems of people within his group. Thus, through subtle intimidation and fear he keeps them under his control.

(2) “Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged,” and there can be pressure or social punishment when there is disagreement with the “boss.” Those who disagree are made to feel as though they are stupid or inept. They are brainwashed with the notion that they do not have the knowledge or experience to question the leader.

Younger people are particularly vulnerable to the leader’s gift of gab, and his feigned expertise. No matter how radical the leader becomes in his decisions or actions, the cult members will not criticize him. Even if there should be mild disagreement, no specific expressions are voiced. The members reason that though he may be mistaken in some of his judgments, yet the overall good he accomplishes outweighs any minor flaws.

Members are taught to “rationalize” the conduct of the leader in matters they have always “considered unethical before,” under the guise that the “end justifies the means.”

(3) The leader “is preoccupied with [raising] money.” There is always a need for increasing finances. New projects are ever in the planning. Members are strongly encouraged to greatly sacrifice for the leader’s current pet enterprise. There is little pressure let-up; members of the group must be kept revved up on a continual basis.

The cult leader always takes the major credit for the movement’s accomplishments. Members become psychologically dependent upon him. “What would we ever do without our leader?,” is the cult mentality.

(4) The cult leader generates within his members “a polarized” mentality. His people evolve an us-versus-them outlook. Little by little, he criticizes other groups with which his members might tend to associate, undermining confidence in them, attempting to discredit anyone who could have influence over his flock.

Cult members become suspicious; they imbibe the critical disposition. “No one is really as sound as we are. We are an elitist group.” And so, seeds of isolationism are sown. The movement leader discourages reading any material, examining any ideas that he does not generate. He seeks to control the inflow of knowledge relative to his group.

Kip McKean has actually charged his followers not to read certain books dealing with mind control, characterizing any breach of this rule as sin (Hassan 2000, xvii). Jehovah’s Witnesses generally will not read any literature other than that published by the Watchtower Association.

(5) The cult leader has a clearly defined anti-authoritarian disposition. Within the context of the church, for instance, he would have an “anti-elder” attitude. Elders would be recipients of constant critical remarks. No cult leader would affiliate himself with a congregation having elders to whom he must be in submission. Control could not be maintained in such an environment.

The cult leader will constantly criticize preachers, particularly those whose knowledge of the Scriptures eclipse his own. Members must be made to feel that he is the chief authority in spiritual matters.

(6) Cult members are seen occasionally to take on a new personality. They begin to act differently. They become increasingly antagonistic to family members and long-time friends. They may even boast, “I am not the old [name] that you used to know; I am a new person now.” And indeed they are. They have become strangers to those who knew them well. They have been transformed into the image of their leader.

1187 days ago
293.

Nancy    

@RoastBeef

You hit the nail on the head. Excellent post, thanks so much for sharing it!!

1187 days ago
294.

Nancy    

ksis 11 minutes ago

"Now if you want you can go back and read Nancy's posts where she says that JWLor "had a point"..."

*****

Which point, dupa? JWLor had a LOT of points about Charlie, good ones.

Again, LIE by obscuring or misrepresenting the original statement. Nice freakin' try, kiddo. Too bad you aren't Pinocchio cuz, by now, your nose would be in the way of your keyboard.

Unless, or until, you can find where I said, EXACTLY, that it was okay to call any member of your family anything unsavory, STFU about the whole mess, would you?

You are so focused on this one issue that it's making you look a little more demented than you already do.

Still FIND IT or STFU. Simple as that. Quit trying to put your own spin on an otherwise innocuous comment.

1187 days ago
295.

Autumn_in_Michigan    

RoastBeef about an hour ago

The Messiah and his followers need to move to a compound.
Does anyone here with an OPEN MIND see the similarities?

CULT MENTALITY:

Dare I say.....BAZINGA!!!!!!!!!! Thanks.

1187 days ago
296.

RoastBeef    

Thanks @ Nancy & PFFFT

It takes less than an ounce of common sense and comprehenson to see how blind his cult members have become when the need to belong is so desperate and overpowering.
Charlie has detached from us earthlings and is driven by his own bloated ego, becoming his own God. The weaker ones just follow.
Stay tuned for the cries of denial.

1187 days ago
297.

Jack DaCarup    

Isn't time for Charlie to be tested again?

1187 days ago
298.

ksis    

I say it is time for BROOKE to be tested again. Oh wait...She will probably refuse again. LOL!

1187 days ago
299.

Jack DaCarup    

Let me rephrase, I think it is time for both of them to be retested. Courts said weekly testing. Last court test was Mar. 22?

1187 days ago
300.

ksis    

LOL I know what you meant.
I doubt the media are gonna cover every test, especially when it's supposed to be done weekly. I read that Charlie has it arranged to be tested on the road, so there will be no problem with that.

1187 days ago
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