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Why Kim & Kris REALLY

Broke Up (Maybe)

12/1/2011 12:30 PM PST BY TMZ STAFF

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Kim Kardashian is calling shenanigans on Kris Humphries' claim she defrauded him ... and made him a disposable groom for her TV show -- and we have a pretty solid theory on what really went wrong. It's all about high school.

Plus, we talk to Abraham Lincoln -- well, a really good impersonator named Michael Krebs -- about Daniel Day Lewis putting on Abe's hat for a new Spielberg flick.

Also, Harvey's wild OJ Simpson-prison connection -- and the hottest TV wives EVER!

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(0:00) Kris Humphries isn't going down without a fight -- he wants to prove Kim used him as a disposable groom.
(3:15) Mike wonders: Why would Kim "shoot herself in face?"
(9:00) Finally! Chad figured it out why Kim dumped Kris.
(10:58) Harvey's spot-on impression of Kris.
(14:05)  Daniel Day Lewis as Abraham Lincoln -- even more spot-on than Harvey's Kris impression.
(16:03) Michael Krebs -- who makes a living as a Lincoln impersonator ... video chats with us from Chicago.
(21:30) Krebs -- lacking in the abs department.
(27:10) Jennifer Lopez wears her wedding ring during a make-out session with her new boyfriend -- is it so wrong?
(34:50) Is sex on the table if a stranger gives you an $8 mil ring? You gotta hear Raquel's answer.
(48:30) What do you do if your at a restaurant and run into a celebrity who's done something horrible?
(48:30) So ... who was the hottest TV wife ever?

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46.

Tarah    

If Kris wasn't to know it was fake (in on the plan), then of course Kim would have negotiated a prenup for years to come despite her knowing it wasn't legit. If you go to an attorney to plan a prenup, they are going to plan it for years to come. Curious if the lawyer (Disso-Queen) asked how long the marriage was intended to last? If she didn't ask this, then of course (and if atty/client didn't limit her) she would say that the prenup is proof Kim intended the marriage to last. Kim has said verbally and in writing that she got caught up, despite knowing before the marriage that it "probably wasn't right", and continued with the marriage. I think they should come to a middle ground. Kris gets his annulment, but signs off that he agrees with the financial terms of the prenup.

1058 days ago
47.

michael    

MY GOD YOU MEN ALL SOUND LIKE LITTLE GIRLS .YOU PUT MANHOOD TO SHAME .GIVE IT A REST THERE ARE BETTER THING,S IN LIFE GOING ON THEN KIM BIG ASS THAT WHATS FAMOUS NOT HER

1058 days ago
48.

StephenF    

If you really want to know about Lincoln, you need to read 2 libertarian books on him, both written by Thomas DiLorenzo:

The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War

Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe

1058 days ago
49.

Daryl    

kim is a lieing gold digging biotch....there is a special place in hell for people just like her. i hope you rot kim and your whole family. you gals are worthless in every sense.

1058 days ago
50.

nnk    

Reggie Bush dodged a bullet.

1057 days ago
51.

Jiyou    

You guys gotta stop arguing, anyway the sex life wasn't good enough for Kim K to stick around. Besides, the only she moved in together with Kris was after the wedding. Kris seems like a good guy, but not good enough for Kim. Kim love the black meat and that's Regis Bush.

1057 days ago
52.

sandra     

She should change the setting and maybe make the diamond into something else necklace

1057 days ago
53.

jillian    

Harvey,
Once Kim is free, you should marry her. It would be great career move for both of you.

1057 days ago
54.

sara     

UMM!!!! are you guys stupid or what? kris is the dum guy who had an ex that looked just like kim and thought he could have her... the fact is this has nothing to do with their show!! you don't realize this is like any other couple. why should their show have to pay for it.. have you guys seen jlos behavior a mother two children sooo what? she wants a real penis too get laid. and ashton with demi he was getting tired of that old thing.. you guys really hate them because you can't fix it. because you really have no answer's to this divorce. because you are not kim or kris. omg please if you don't like her show go to the next channel... seriously your taking it to serious. maybe the woman who started the boycot can't get a guy or all the things kim has... how sad ? the girl can have who ever she wants but ultimately is the guys fault who fall for her... wake up people?????

1057 days ago
55.

Sosique    

1:Khloe was right he wanted the fame Kris was in it for the ride.He got what he wanted now he is making all kinds of money commenting.
2:She made a lot money before she met him and she was with high profile Reggie Bush..Who is he never heard of him before she got with him.So she did him a big favor.
3:He is a dork..loser dry more white than black.. he wasn't black enough to hang with her and her crew
3:He does not like how she pays her bills

1057 days ago
56.

KK    

MIke and Harvey, Kim did it because she ne ver expected the backlash. she was only thinking of dollar signs. kris didnt want the pastor part on tape and in order to get him to marry ehr she had to oblige. she is a fraud! come on TMZ do you really need to kiss at for E! Tv? all of a sudden you are pro kardashian. soon people will start boycotting TMZ if you are siding with E! not to piss off the E! big wigs. COME ON!! They did it because they didnt expect this backlash. KLOSE KARDASHIAN DOWN!

1047 days ago
57.

melinda    

kim needs to get over herself and quit listening to her family because how can be in love then your not kris a good man and she blind for not seeing that. Push the family away just a little bit.

1047 days ago
58.

veritas Ngum    

the kardeshans are a group of inpolight and spoiled brats except for the step father who is reasonable.kim should go to hell.why will she threat Kris in that manner?if i were kris ,that annaulment is the least i will do.what is the need 'being friends'after a divorce?if kim wanted kris'friendship,she should have stayed married to him. i dont even watch the stupid show any more.there are no family values there.they just teach people how to be arrogant and selfish.learn from juliana and bill

1044 days ago
59.

dfin123    

I just want to know where I can suck a @#$$ and get rich. Any leads out there?

1040 days ago
60.

phooface    

I saw blip on Yahoo this morn about Kim yelling at Jonathan Cheban (sp?). She told him to 'shut up' because of something he'd done . . not I can't find a thing about it. True??

1040 days ago
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