TMZ Live Simon & Howie vs Angry Parents ... Showdown Over Howard Stern

12/15/2011 12:30 PM PST

TMZ Live: Simon Cowell vs Angry Parents -- Showdown Over Howard Stern

"America's Got Talent" honcho Simon Cowell and judge Howie Mandel backed up Howard Stern today ... big time! We got 'em standing up to the President of the Parents TV Council ... who's seriously bent about Stern's move to NBC..

Plus,  Dan Patrick tells us why the Chris Paul trade (take 2) makes the impossible seem possible -- LA could really become a CLIPPER town! Also, Babawa Walters' retirement "fib" at the White House ... and why everyone's afraid to get married.

(1:40) Howie Mandell is on the phone -- he says it's "ignorant" to think Howard Stern is bringing his Sirius show antics to "AGT." 
(8:00) Does that mean no anal ring toss? 
(12:50) ESPN's Dan Patrick is on the line -- he says not-so-fast on crowning Chris Paul's Clippers the kings of L.A.
(13:50) Dan says the pressure's now on the Lakers to make a good trade.
(14:20) How does Dan -- a big Stern fan -- think Howard will do on "Talent"?
(23:40) Did Barbara Walters lie to President Obama's face when she told him she's retiring next year?
(32:40) Ellen's classic coming out scene.
(35:02) President of the Parents TV Council Tim Winter is upset about Stern on "Talent" ... and calls in to have his say.
(44:02) Who better to talk about Howard Stern on "Talent" than the show's mega-producer Simon Cowell?
(46:30) Harvey asks Simon about the "X Factor" controversy between Paula Abdul and Nicole Scherzinger.
(48:05) Simon suggests his singer on "Factor" has a target on her back.
(49:30) Ryan Seacrest may take over "Today" -- amazing how many jokes Simon already has for it.