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Katherine Jackson Case

Judge Orders Investigator To Interview Children

7/27/2012 11:54 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF
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The judge in the Katherine Jackson case needs help deciding to whom he should award permanent guardianship of MJ's children -- so he's ordered an independent investigator to interview the kids ... and report back asap.

According to court documents, obtained by TMZ, Judge Mitchell Beckloff has ordered a probate court investigator named Cary Ornelas to "prepare an investigation report addressing the status of the minor children and their currently suspended guardian, Katherine Jackson."

According to the court order, Ornelas has been authorized to interview the Jackson children at their school ... without notice.

Once completed, Ornelas' report will be submitted to the judge ... for his eyes only.

Michael Jackson's nephew TJ Jackson is currently the kids' temporary guardian, and he has already filed documents asking to make the guardianship permanent.

For her part -- Katherine says she has reached an agreement with TJ under which they will SPLIT guardianship of the kids.

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76.

CK    

I dont understand why any of you think that the bio mother(s) of Mj's children should be involved in their lives. They gave up their rights at birth. They were nothing more than a surrograte. Just because Michael tragically died doesn't make these woman a mother figure. You can't make a purse out of a sows ear and you can't make a loving nurturing mother out of hired womb. Having Debbie Rowe whom they barely know and who is not even Blanket bio mom come back into the picutre now would just add more fuel to the already raging inferno. I agree that TJ may be the most sensible solution at this point, but Paris and Prince should alway keep in mind that anyone with the last name of Jackson should be watched closely.

783 days ago
77.

PAT    

I don't think Katherine Jackson, should ever get custody of those kids again, she had her chance, and she blew it. What on earth was she thinking, leaving town without telling her grandchildren where she was, and not bothering to call them, to let them know, that she was alright. I would like to know, who was supervising these kids in her absence. There is absolutely know excuse for this. I'm surprise child protective services, is not involved with this case. I can't imagine the hell they went through, not knowing if their grandmother, was dead or alive. I don't blame those poor kids, for being angry and hurt. That was a very cruel thing to do.

783 days ago
78.

Sha    

Don't know why everybody trippin MJ DONT have any kids, He's black and them kids are white...they really need to do a DNA test . MJ loves him some white ppl dont he? The same white ppl who had his A$& going to court in pajamas, molestation and conspiracy??? WTF is really going on.

783 days ago
79.

lisaknowsthetruth    

I am very appalled at the backlash the kids are receiving for standing up for themselves. The whole keeping things in the family is what's destroying families and communities. I f nothing sneaky was going on all they had to do was say grandma is resting. Why not let the kids talk to their guardian if nothing is wrong. I dont know who does the thinking in the Jackson family but they surely didnt do a good job with this idea. How about the Jackson family leave the thinking to the kids.

783 days ago
80.

Bonnie    

Mrs. Jackson willingness to split shared guardianship with her grandson TJ should not be an option. Mrs. Jackson is to old to raise her grandchildren but she isn't stupid either. She knows if she loses guardianship that she loses all benefits that coming with the caretaking of MJ3 children. The only problem with this entire situation 1) Mrs. Jackson influence by her children (Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie etc.), 2) This is a unhealthy, unstable, and violen family. 3) These are 3 minor children and their safety should be in question. and 4) as long as they remain with Mrs. Jackson Janet, Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie and the other Jackson's behind the scene will continue to try and harm these children. those are the facts.
The story that has played it's self out in the public can not be disregarded the actions are real the behaviors and attitude by the adults playing the key major roles are dangerous. I do not see Ms. Jackson as some sweet loving person. I see her as being cruel vicious and dangerous including Jermaine, Randy, all the other Jackson's to MJ's children. These children are not loved and are not accepted as MJ's children. It's all about MJ's money. Someone of a higher power need to see what's happening here. These children are not safe with the Jackson that's one thing for sure.

783 days ago
81.

Susan62509    

NO SPLIT GUARDIANSHIP. That will only cause more problems for the children. That will be a fiasco. You need one stable adult ONLY the children can go to for decision making. Katherine will always try to over-rule TJ. Children need stability and passing them back and forth between guardianship, especially after KJ dies is too much. A long range decision in guardianship needs to be made once and for all. KJ is too old and all the legal business she has chosen to thrust herself into does not allow her time to raise children. Let her retire, run her own life and place the children with TJ permanently and definitely DO NOT let KJ have control of MJ3's allowance. IMO, some of MJ3's allowance is being passed to KJ's kids i.e., Randy & Jermaine. Also by putting TJ in charge of security is KJ's way of terminating Trent. Everyone has KJ figured out so Perry Sander's needs to back off.

783 days ago
82.

Susan62509    

Bonnie #87. You are absolutely correct in every word you wrote. I completely agree and hopefully child services and Judge Beckloff will take into consideration what you have said. The Jackson siblings are a danger as proven with their mother for the past 10 days. The siblings are divided and with major controvery between them and obviously feel they can enter the Calabasas home whenever they feel like it. MJ3 do NOT need to be exposed to this tension and certainly not a healthy enviornment in studying for school. Michael provided a calm, secure, loving home for his children and the embarrassment from the Jackson family sets MJ3 up for teasing at school. Split them up by putting Katherine Hayvenhurst and keep MJ3 at Calabasas. Katherine didn't want to sell Hayvenhurst which is sitting empty now, so put her there.

783 days ago
83.

Susan62509    

One more thing. Judge Beckloff and child services need to remember and evaluate why Katherine NEVER protected her own children while Joseph beat the h*ll out of them. What mother sits back and yells from the other room "Joseph you're going to kill them". Also what mother sits back while Michael is told to strip naked, his body oiled down and Joseph whips him all over his body with an ironing cord?Katherine was equally to blame as Joseph.

783 days ago
84.

runette    

There is too much he said, she said in all this drama, so no one really knows what is going on. One thing bothers me though & that is Prince & Paris. They need to keep their butts off of tweeter talking about what is going on in the family. The 2 of them are out of line. They have no right publicly chastising adult family members. I agree they have the right to be concerned about their environment, but they need to keept their mouths shut. Maybe that is why Katherine Jackson left town, she couldn't handle 2 disrespectful teenagers. Somebody needs to put them in their place.

783 days ago
85.

Free Paris    

Just wait until the truth comes out about how the Jacksons have terrorized the biological parents of Prince, Paris and Blanket!

Deborah Rowe has been threatned and attacked so bad, she publically said she needed to get a restraining order against Joe Jackson!

These creeps will murder anyone they percieve to be a threat - AND THAT INCLUDES THE CHILDREN!

782 days ago
86.

Cherwood    

"Cursed Strife" Revisited...
So finally Beckloff had his AHA moment and realized he needed to check the FACTS? BRILLIANT! Now if he could only find out what MORON is leaking info out of his office....and to TMZ, no less...Oye.
First, people need to get their records straight about the Paris/Janet smackdown. It's already been established that Paris DID NOT call Janet the B-word. That was just your standard tabloid exaggeration that even TMZ knew not to expound on. What did happen is a standoff where Janet tried to get Paris' cell and she wouldn't let her. Now, I agree with Gladys Knight's statement that children should respect their elders, but as one reporter stated, we don't know enough about what was actually said to know if Janet acted responsibly herself in the sitch. And looking at it from Paris' standpoint, Janet was, after all, one of the VILLIANS in this scenario that separated her and her siblings from the Grandma so she was not likely to acquiesce to anything Janet had to say. Essentially, all respect had gone the way of the dodo bird at that point....
Back to the "Co-Guardian" issue, I really think it's best for the Judge to FULLY investigate ALL aspects of this case. Although I do realize that Katherine and TJ are claiming that he's been sharing the day-to-day rearing of PPB, it's strange we had never heard of this before now. But even if he did, he has several children of his own to look after, AND there's still the question of what HIS true intentions are in all of this.
How do we know that this whole thing wasn't a ruse to get him--someone who may be in a better position to FOOL the Executors and the children into thinking they're intentions are pure, so that the family is able to get a better stronghold over the Children and subsequently their money. They knew that Katherine's relationship with the Executors was an EPIC fail, so maybe they're simply sending in the B-team to find a new way in. I hate saying all of this, as it would suggest a family completely want of feelings for these children, but considering their track record and the fact that most of the Jacksons rarely ever saw them, it's totally possible...
As for Randy tweeting against TJ, making TJ look more like the SUPERHERO of the hour, not sure where that's coming from....but it does work towards making TJ the best possible choice for Guardian or at least co-Guardian....
The thing to remember, however, is the fact that TJ should also be thoroughly investigated before being awarded Guardianship for one simple fact:
HE IS ALSO A JACKSON!!!
Matter of fact, I would sleep much easier knowing that someone who could be trusted OUTSIDE of the family was appointed Guardian but alas, that may be too much like RIGHT.....
Watch what happens...
BTW: Someone needs to inform Randy that the reason why Jermy and Janet weren't allowed access to the Calabasas home is because it does NOT belong to the family, it belongs to the ESTATE!! He stated that "they wouldn't let us into OUR OWN HOME," but it's not theirs. Their home WAS the Encino home, Hayvenhurst, but even that belongs to the Estate now because it was in MICHAEL'S name...the one who PAID ALL OF THE BILLS, and the same one who's paying all the bills at the CALABASAS home. If the Jacksons could ever get that concept into their head, they would save themselves from constantly spinning their wheels...
Then again, we're talking about Randy and Jermy so the whole thing is moot...
Missing Michael PPBEOS.....

782 days ago
87.

Raejean    

This is one of the first productive steps I've heard taken to resolve this fiasco, since you can't believe most of what the adults tell you. the more unbiased third parties are involved, the better. Frankly, I think adult protective services need to interview Miss Katherine, also, if they can get her out from under the thumbs of Jermaine and Randy, etc. and interview her privately.

782 days ago
88.

travey    

Okay, I understand that Mrs. Jackson is tired and that no grandparent should have to raise their grandkids, but things happen and she stepped up. If she was having trouble managing the staff she should have said something to someone. How hard is to direct the staff. Even though the kids are pre-teens they still need a parent there for guidance. Why was no one aware of where she went to or for how long?
Other grandparents are able to step up and raise their grandkids, so if you don’t want the responsibility anymore say so, don’t run away without telling the children you are supposed to be taking care of – don’t care how tire you are or what you are going through.
Since her children are so afraid that the stress is going to cause her health problems, take the stress of managing the finances and children away from her and give the responsibility to another person. No matter who controls the money, the Jackson's are going to cry foul. CPS should also be involved!
The Judge should also have the finances audited, because if any of MJ Estate has paid for anything else but the well being of his kids, the person(s) should be prosecuted for theft. These family members have no shame!
MJ kids should respect their elders, if they are in fear of something keep twittering, the public can hear you.
Lastly, no one wants their dirty family secrets air for public viewing – get a mediator and sit everyone down and have a fight in the privacy of the big house. If the parties in question don’t need to be there, then don’t show up. If parties are concern for their mother, stop with the late night TV shows and getting upset, leaving the camera and coming back for more face time. You are supposed to be grownups – act like it!

782 days ago
89.

travey    

Okay, I understand that Mrs. Jackson is tired and that no grandparent should have to raise their grandkids, but things happen and she stepped up. If she was having trouble managing the staff she should have said something to someone. How hard is to direct the staff. Even though the kids are pre-teens they still need a parent there for guidance. Why was no one aware of where she went to or for how long?
Other grandparents are able to step up and raise their grandkids, so if you don’t want the responsibility anymore say so, don’t run away without telling the children you are supposed to be taking care of – don’t care how tire you are or what you are going through.
Since her children are so afraid that the stress is going to cause her health problems, take the stress of managing the finances and children away from her and give the responsibility to another person. No matter who controls the money, the Jackson's are going to cry foul. CPS should also be involved!
The Judge should also have the finances audited, because if any of MJ Estate has paid for anything else but the well being of his kids, the person(s) should be prosecuted for theft. These family members have no shame!
MJ kids should respect their elders, if they are in fear of something keep twittering, the public can hear you.
Lastly, no one wants their dirty family secrets air for public viewing – get a mediator and sit everyone down and have a fight in the privacy of the big house. If the parties in question don’t need to be there, then don’t show up. If parties are concern for their mother, stop with the late night TV shows and getting upset, leaving the camera and coming back for more face time. You are supposed to be grownups – act like it!

782 days ago
90.

whoisgreedy    

Greed??? hmm... seems Branca, Mclain, Weitzman..... are the 3 guys with everything to lose.

782 days ago
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