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Legal Fight Brewing in Jackson House

6/4/2010 2:30 PM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

TMZ has learned four of Katherine Jackson's grandchildren will be moving from her house this month, and the mother of the kids has lawyered up for a fight.

Katherine Jackson
TMZ broke the story ... Katherine told Alejandra Jackson -- who had been living at the Jackson family compound in Encino with her kids, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte and Randy, Jr. -- that her brood had to move out, because Katherine had her hands full just watching over Michael Jackson's 3 kids.

Katherine is allowing Alejandra and her kids to move into a nearby condo owned by the Jackson family, but Alejandra is pissed. Katherine is in Indiana until June 10. We're told when Katherine comes back, Alejandra has to move.

But it's not going to be that easy. We've learned Alejandra has hired Trope & Trope, a powerful law firm, to negotiate a separation agreement of sorts. We're told Alejandra wants some assurance that her family will be financially protected if she moves. As a result, she may challenge the move or negotiate a separation package -- which would include a place where she and her kids will live (not necessarily the condo) and what financial support she gets.

Alejandra has gone after Jermaine in the past for failing to pay child support -- and now that she's being forced to move, the money battle has been reignited. Jermaine is the father of two of the kids and Randy is the father of the other two children.

Katherine asked Alejandra to move after the stun gun incident. TMZ broke the story that Jaafar ordered a stun gun online and was playing with it at the house -- something that triggered an investigation by the L.A. County Department of Children and Family Services.


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451.

tommy d    

this girl is a hoe; not only does the biatch get pregnant but she makes sure its both brothers, incase one makes more than the other???evidently she found a way to make money by spreading her legs for any one thats famous and decided to keep it in the family

1496 days ago
452.

Cher    

Heartbreak Hotel - 2.0....
Re: #457, 459, 460...--Mymjj, et al. --Sorry for the late response, but I've been tied up on a more important topic on Michael, IMO--The Investigation of his MURDER!
Mymjj, what is the deal? It's not that serious, believe me. None of what I said should be news to you if you've followed the Jacksons since childhood. Why are you defending them so hard? I think you are protesting WAY too much in this--it ain't that deep. But let me say this: I have no axe to grind by saying what I say about the Jacksons. I love Michael and they're his family so I've loved them in the past and thought they were the average, loving family until my eyes were opened about them. As I said before, every family has their issues, mine included, but one thing we would NEVER do is be disloyal to each other in public...and for gain.
You say the press has done a number on them, but most of the negativity I discovered on them happened before Michael died and the press never really exploited this info. The biggest thing on the Jackson Family that was exploited in the past, was the LaToya fiasco--even Jermy's "Word to the Badd" crap wasn't flushed out like it could've been. People talked about it for sure, but it didn't get the same treatment Michael got if he even drew a breath incorrectly back in those days. Guess even the media knew not to waste their time on anything Jermy turned out...par for the course.
As for my comments on Janet and Rebbie's TV stints, you missed the point entirely: it's one thing for the media and every Tom, **** and Sally to call your brother everything but a child of God. Regardless of what was going to come out during the trial, that's NO EXCUSE for them to go on National TV and make statements against him. I'll say it again, even if the drug use was a constant, it was wrong of them to go on TV saying he was in denial after he's gone--way to make the defense's case for them--RIDICULOUS! With family running you down like that, the media can take a break, eh? Whatever.
And BTW--my point about what they said wasn't about the drugs, it was about FAMILY LOYALTY!!! Not sure if you have siblings, but me and mine all grew up with the Jacksons so we discuss this often and we were all appalled that they would do such a thing. Actually, their statements may have made sense if he was still living, because it may have forced him to face his problem. But take note, their reason for doing it was to sell a CD, film, or Tour...watch that Oprah interview with Janet again and you'll see her flinching because she knows Oprahs questions went too far...and I'm not talking about the Tyler Perry film--why would I care about that? The only segment I was referring to was the one on MICHAEL....hello?
One other thing, regarding Jermy and the "Pie" issue--it did NOT mean the girls, it meant his piece of the action or place in the limelight as someone put it. It is well known in the industry that Jermy felt he was going to rise to the top after the J5 left Motown and he began his solo career. Their leaving was actually a good thing for him because Motown had been pushing for Michael to go solo which is why Joe had problems with them long before Michael and the brothers complained of wanting artistic control. Of course, we know Jermy had some success without the brothers, but he realized it wasn't the same without Michael which is why he teamed up with him to ensure the success of 2 of his biggest selling albums.
Bottom line, I used to try to find excuses and defend the Jacksons because of Michael in the past, but now, after seeing their actions in the aftermath of his death, I'm done. You can explain to me until you're blue in the face, but unless you have do***entation and research to back up what you're saying, I can't receive it, sorry.
As for your statement that Michael didn't become who he was being a saint: he was a human being who made mistakes like you and I, the difference is he was a GENIUS who was given the gift of Master Entertainer from God--for that, he needed no schemes and scams like his siblings. Do I think he made some unpopular decisions in his family? Yes and SO WHAT? They were HIS decisions and they were all adult who should've accepted his decisions and MOVED ON! How many times did he have to tell them NO before they got the picture? You mentioned hpow great Janet and LaToy looked in their white outfits flanking Michael--I LOVE that pic, too. HOWEVER, it was totally ruined for me whenever I found out what Randy did behind Michael's back with his partner--and don't try to blame it on Michael, it was RANDY'S idea because he had mismanaged Michael's finances to the point where noone was being paid and the entire Neverland staff walked out. Michael's mistake was in hiring Randy in the first place who was clearly in over his hand and probably couldn't manage my niece's accounts much less than Michael's massive Empire! And less we forget, while the loving family was escorting Michael to the court daily, they were also in talks for yet another JACKSON REUNION CONCERT!! I'm sure they knew he was considered persona non grata at that point, but they also knew the gifts and anointing that surrounded him, so they knew he would rise back to the top and they were determined to be on board when he did. To this day, I think that was why he ran t Bahrain. People say creditors, but I say the family. he knew the creditors weren't going away and he couldn't do anything about them, but he could do something about the family...and he did.
DO I think he was ruthless and sharp when it came to business? Yes and SO WHAT? It's what gave his children and the world his legacy we now enjoy and will for years to come. I have no problem accepting the fact that he elbowed a few people out to get what he wanted. I've always said Michael was an Overachiever, highly ambitious, Ride or Die personality. His joy over the Guiness Records he won told you that...
Bottom line,I'm trying my best to say this with love, but it's hard because you seem to be willing to throw Michael under the bus to protect his family who have done NOTHING to be worthy of anyone's protection, IMO. Why do you really think Michael avoided them so much? I'm not saying they didn't have the right to try to get a bit of his expertise, but come on, he had given to them his whole LIFE! It's to the point where I'm thinking he wrote the song "What more Can I give?" about his family. I know everytime I see "Ghosts" and he says "Meet the Family", I think of his ACTUAL family...sorry, had to get that one in......
You know me, as I said it's all about MICHAEL, ride or die. Everyone else is on their own. I've always known you to be a true Michael supporter, but if you build up the family at Michael's expense, we're gonna have a problem!
BTW: You asked why the families who lived at Neverland weren't being called leeches or vultures? Question is, who says they weren't? I've posted a few things about the Chandlers and Arvisos, et. al in the past but this was not a story about them and I'm not one to continually harp on the allegations as if it's going to change the mind of an infidel. I choose to spend my time more wisely. Unfortunately, you posted numerous testimonials to the family and in my usual fashion, I answered them based on FACTS. If you had posted about the Neverland family leeches, maybe I would've responded but that's a moot point.
Bottom line, I'm sad to say we'll have to part ways on this issue. I've tried to see the best in the Jacksons, but the fact is, most of them have spent their lives feeding off of Michael in one way or another. How they do it is their business, the fact is they did it and continue to do it even in death. The day they jump off the "Michael Bread wagon", I'll be happy to report it. Tito, for one, doesn't seem to feed off of it--he wouldn't even go to the TII Premiere because he didn't think it was right. And he's the one who has his own band in totally different genre from the Jacksons'--Blues. I wish the rest of the family would take his cues. But it seems old habits die hard. Even now, Joe and Jermy has that "Forever Michael" half-baked show for June 26 at $150-500 a plate!! And the brothers are fighting over another Tribute concert in Austria that either Jermy or Marlon are spearheading, but Randy is against it. Looming in the background are suspicions based in fact that Randy and Jermy are possibly part of the circle that orchestrated Michael's death...I hope for your sake it's not true...
No Peace till Justice!!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U-Till-The-End-Of-TIME..........

1496 days ago
453.

PD    

I hate women that think that they can live off a man and not be woman enough to get HER OWN MONEY HER DAMN SELF how about sell avon it only cost $10 to get started and only $7.50 for your own internet avon online store hell i have one at http://www.youravon.com/pdawkins I don't mind trying to be an independent woman and getting my own money cause you never know a man can leave you or die and then what your screwed with nothing You can's always depend on a MAN especially today's men sheeze sell avon

1495 days ago
454.

Mary    

So, because she had kids by 2 brothers, does that mean the kids are cousins and brothers. Wow! A gold digger for sho - any way

1495 days ago
455.

Mary    

So, because she had kids by 2 brothers, does that mean the kids are cousins and brothers. Wow!

1495 days ago
456.

Ninia    

I think jermaine and randy need to get together and get this B---H out of their MOM home. I wish that REBY,LATOYA and sweet Janet would call a women to B---H meeting and give her the 911. Because their MOTHER do not deserve this kind of treatment trying to sue their MOM. She is still trying to get over MICHAEL death and raise his childrens. GOD BLESS YOU MOTHER/GRANDMOTHER JACKSON WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!



NINIA

1495 days ago
457.

blunt    

get out, tramp...get a job and take care of yourself and those kids who didn't ask 2 B here

1495 days ago
458.

TheBusyLady    

Did Michael's lawyers approve this event for Michael, on his death anniversary? Any event that concerns Michael and involves money, must be approved by the executors of his Estate. Hopefully his family got the approval to sponsor this event, BEFORE they announced it.



They don't need another Media embarrassment, right now. They have enough going on with the daughter in law wanting to sue Mrs.J.

1495 days ago
459.

MJ FAN    

I think if the kids are 18 and over should get a job and take care of themselves.The ones under 18 I think the mother and fathers should be taking care of then and not the grandmother its not her place to take care of and raise the grandkids unless the parents have passed away and they arent old enough to take care of themselves

1495 days ago
460.

mymjj5    

Hi again Cher
Once again we have different interpretations of the same information. I see that when I wrote my response last night, i wrote it as if I was responding to you alone. Clearly there have been multiple posts on this story by different people. Truth be told the first portion and the TV show response was for you. the remainder of the post was for everyone else who was concerned. Whenever I said “so what” that was simply my opinion. It was not meant to disregard what you or anyone else have said.
Truth be told I don’t care about a great deal of the stuff the Jackson's say or do. It’s their life. I'm primarily concerned only about michael. You spend goodness knows how much time researching and gathering what you believe to be pertinent do***entation. You’ve appointed yourself lead officer of a “FULL SCALE ONLINE MURDER INVESTIGATION” and you’re telling me it’s not that serious? Why am I defending them so hard? I don’t feel that I’m defending them. I just don’t like it when people put the Jacksons down especially for their proven track record regarding their "own" careers and accomplishments. MJ loved them. I love them.
You think I'm protesting WAY too much in this--it ain't that deep? I'm not protesting anything. We have different interpretations, different perspectives and most certainly different experiences regarding MJ and his family. I respect your right to research and say what you want. I wish you could feel the same way about me in regards to MJ’s siblings and parents. You say that you thought the Jacksons were the average, loving family until your eyes were opened about them.
Thanks to you, my eyes are completely open, . I love MJ and his family more now than ever. I don’t judge them, I accept them. I may not like everything they do but they are still MJ’s family.
I'm going to stand by my opinion that the Jacksons can do and say whatever they feel. I’ll stand by my opinion that Rebbie and Janet are adults and can say and do whatever they want personally and with their careers. If it’s a part of MJ’s medical history that he misused or abused prescription medication it will be made public during court. Life goes on. Damn if they do, damn if they don’t. If you and your siblings are appalled at the Jackson’s behavior, somehow I think they will live. You or yall will just have to be appalled.
The Jacksons don’t have to face anything except the fact that Michael is gone and there’s an upcoming hearing. Michael was a grown man. He was not a freaking wimp. MJ had some ****** ways about himself also. The Jacksons have to work. I don’t care what they promote. They are a show business family. I wish them luck, love and success in everything they do especially with this museum project.
If one of the siblings passed away, MJ still would have gone to London for opening night. There are no set of rules as to how a person should grieve. There are not instructions that I know of that say there’s a waiting period or grace period before you can move on with your own life or have an opinion in regards to the deceased.
Would you feel better if Rebbie were a florist and Janet was a secondary school teacher ? I get it Cher and I don’t care. I cannot tell a person how to deal with personal grief and loss. The Jacksons go on these TV shows talk about MJ and then the questions turn to what they are doing personally.



Michael and Jermaine roomed together when they were on tour. They fought (sibling rivalry) and still love each other. Everything you said is true about MJ and Jermaine before, during and after Motown. Yet, I stand by my PIE interpretation too. Next!!!
You don’t have to believe or receive anything from me. My experiences are totally different from yours. My do***entation cannot be downloaded, uploaded or validated by the world wide web.
Michael did not need schemes and scams is correct. I agree with you whole heartedly. I said he was a creative artist. His family were more like coordinators rather than innovators. I know my King was a genius. I know the goodness of my King’s heart. Yet while My King was on earth he did not defy gravity. When it came to business, MJ was shrewd and far more cunning than you will ever know. We are on the same page regarding MJ’s accomplishments, achievements, awards and other accolades.
YOU think I'm protecting the Jacksons and making excuses for them. I'm not. Michael loved his family he just couldn’t live with them or work with them again on a regular basis. I have a healed and forgiving heart. I believe every family that can be restored should be restored. I want the Jacksons restored because of Prince, Paris and Blanket. Everything they do will affect MJ’s kids. I want the grandparents, the siblings and their families healthy, prosperous, fulfilled and lacking nothing.
My heart and mind is clear with this entire Jackson fiasco of the past. I don’t care about past mistakes. Yet I will take a moment to clear up a misconception. I don’t care about current personal dilemmas. You have a right to dislike the Jacksons. I love them most due to a few of MJ’s final words:
“Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, Marlon, & Randy, I love you.”
“Joseph and Katherine God Bless You, I love you.”



Goodnight Everyone!!!


1495 days ago
461.

Cher    

Heartbreak Hotel 2.1....
Sorry for the delay guys, hope you're still here:
-#441: Hey Bunny! No, I was a young aspiring actress/singer/dancer back in those days. I got a few breaks with jobs where I got to work on Videos with some of my fave celebs in the Music biz--Janet was only one of them...Gosh, those were some FUN days....
-#445: Grump, I did read a report some time back about how Katherine attempted to get rid of Alejandra and Co., but when she went to court the Judge decided she had to keep them due to outstanding support debts. Not sure why this fell on Katherine other than the fact that both Randy and Jermy were listed as residents of Hayvenhurst. If they were no longer residents, maybe it would've changed? Not sure about that, either, but this is a big mess. I agree with the poster who stated it's more likely that Katherine in her quest to protect the children, pushed for Alejandra to stay there and now that decision has come back to haunt her.
Thing is, if the Alejandra arrangement is court ordered, she's screwed and needs to decide to either pay Alej off AND move her to the condo, or beg the Executors to let the gang stay--I doubt this will fly thanks to that stun gun debacle. And I wouldn't bet on the Executors bailing her out by letting the gang stay. One things for sure about them, they have their own agenda and definitely will find a way to eject Alejandra and anyone else they don't want living there. Looks like Katherine is going to have to come up with the money to feed this shark after all...
As for Joe and the Estate, I haven't heard anything else since there was a story that he was going to have a deposition with them. I think they will possibly offer him something to shut him up about the will, but we'll see. The Gary Museum is already underway from all reports this week...
-#446: Hey Nan! Yeah I saw that on his home movies, too. Michael just LOVED that Rhythm Nation album to the point where he played it for warm-ups and rehearsals instead of his own stuff. What I loved about Janet is that she was like a female Michael. Remember her performance on The AMA's where she did "Nasty" with the 4 back-up dancers? I know it's old school, but I still remember how perfect they danced and how Janet scared me she looked so much like Michael on that show. The thinner she is, the more she looks like Michael!
Have to say although I love her new haircut--didn't realize it matched Michael's--I wasn't thrilled with her performance on Idol. After that great peformance of "Scream" on the MTV Music Awards, I was underwhelmed to say the least. I know Janet is 44, but that's not too old to be able to get in shape again if you're already a dancer like her. Maybe what she should do is work on her vocal performance if she's not going to dance. She knows how to "perform" a song, but her stage presence isn't enough to carry her if she's not dancing, IMO. Michael, on the other hand, had such a magical stage presence that he didn't even need to dance and he still would slay you--the dancing is what just made people go into hysterics--he was too much for them to take!! I never screamed at his sight, but I knew how they felt--still do...Michael was an out and out BEAST onstage!!
That's funny about Jermy and Michael telling him "My fans won't care anyway..." He got that right...........
On Joe and the Museum, I'm with you, Nan. I wish I could get him the siblings and everybody on these boards to quit majoring in the minors and get working on the most important issue--Getting the Truth about EVERYONE involved in Michael's demise and bringing them to justice...
-#463: Barbjean, not sure what Randy CAN do about the will other than continue to squawk about in on Twitter and in the Press since he's not a beneficiary. The only thing ha can do is try to influence Katherine and her team to fight it, but her lawyer, Streisand doesn't seem to favor that. These tweets are interesting in that they somewhat confirm my suspicions that the family may have been behind the leaks of the Trust last week. They are the only ones who stand to gain if the will is exposed and questioned by the public. I personally think it's fake too, but I'm not sure how it's worth Randy's time to fight it. The '97 will won't list him or his siblings either, however, it may not give so much power to the Trustees/Executors. I would love to get a look at the '97 Trust......
As for the tributes, I don't know how many fans will fall for this crap, but I don't plan to have anything to do with them...
BTW: Your take on the Alejandra brue is very interesting and raises some good questions as to her state of mind and the brother's sense of responsibility...or lack thereof....
-#465: BarbieJean, yep, Marlon and Oxman are the leaders in this Rome thing. And if Oxman is involved, Joe can't be far away. I don't trust the 2 of them as far as I can throw them. But one thing I have to say for them, at least THIS tribute has stars commited to it. Akon, Dionne Warwick and Kim Carnes are headlining this with Marlon--not sure if he's actually going to perform. They also have Travis Payne, TII Choreographer involved and more likely some of the TII dancers......
http://www.mjmtribute.com/protagonisti.html
..................SIMMERING.....To be continued.....

1495 days ago
462.

Cher    

Heartbreak Hotel - The Mymjj Edition...
-#478: Hey Mymjj, here we go again. Okay so I admit to being on a rant yesterday but that's how I get when I think my man is being attacked..and for the sake of people that I don't think are worthy of it. I did respond to your post thinking it was primarily directed at me, but you know it's still all love. Not that that was an issue because after all, we don't know each other like that, we simply have common ground in our history of love for Michael.
Here's my breakdown of your post:
-"Truth be told I don’t care about a great deal of the stuff the Jackson's say or do. It’s their life. I'm primarily concerned only about michael."
Everything I've seen from you confirms your love for Michael, but I have to say your posts don't support a lack of concern for the Jacksons activities--if anything, you come across as their no. 1 cheerleader, which is your right, but going as far as stating that maybe Michael put Randy up to forging that Prescient loan from Darien Dash without anything to back up your statements is taking things a bit far. This is highly unlikely as it was done toward the end of the 2005 trial. When do you think Michael would've had time to focus on a scheme like this with Sneddon pitching darts from hell at him and prison looming in the background?
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-"You spend goodness knows how much time researching and gathering what you believe to be pertinent do***entation. You’ve appointed yourself lead officer of a “FULL SCALE ONLINE MURDER INVESTIGATION” and you’re telling me it’s not that serious?"
Now that...is FUNNY!! First of all, I have NOT appointed myself as lead officer in the Investigation. There are people on these boards and elsewhere who have been investigating this case since back in July when I was still simply crying into my Michael Cd's and praying to bring Murray to justice. Once I started reading and researching and allowing myself to be EDUCATED in this case, that's when I realized many things didn't add up. If you quit digesting all of the crap the animals put on here and people restating the obvious (read: "KJ needs to put these ..... out,") you will find what I did on every board--nuggets of info from very intelligent investigative minds. Thing is, if you're content to simply accept the state of things in this case, that's fine, but I don't. And I think finding the Murderers of the man I love--the Mega-Star Icon of the world is a sight more important than defending his deadbeat siblings...sorry, but that's MO.
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-"We have different interpretations, different perspectives and most certainly different experiences regarding MJ and his family. I respect your right to research and say what you want. I wish you could feel the same way about me in regards to MJ’s siblings and parents.."
I wholeheartedly agree. In my passion I admit I often forget this and will apologize to you and anyone else I have done this to on here, but I will also hold you and them to do the same for me. The main reason I even wasted time responding about the Jacksons is because you posted several times questioning Michael's ownership of Hayvenhurst and other assets, and lauding what you think the brothers have. I knew what this was about--you wanted to make people aware that they had their own money and weren't leeches. That's why I said you protested too much. If they have money they have it. Good for them. However, unless you're talking about Janet--who made her millions in a recording career, LaToya--a millionaire in her own right because of her stints on TV and side businesses or Jackie--who was co-writer on most of the Jacksons songs in Mijac, the rest have no track record to prove this. Noone ever said NONE of them had any money, however, all of them seem to be constantly looking for a bigger payoff--THROUGH MICHAEL.
BTW: I may have my issues with Joe, but I never said anything about Katherine--the one person in the family Michael did trust...sometimes to a fault!
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-"Michael was a grown man. He was not a freaking wimp. MJ had some ****** ways about himself also."
Who are you telling? Please don't insult my intelligence by constantly telling me that Michael wasn't a pushover--I GET IT AND I ALREADY KNOW THIS!!! If he was a wimp, he wouldn't have achieved what he did. As for the second part, you're on your own with that. I don't consider his ways to be bad, they were simply HIS WAYS and considering what he had to contend with in life, they could have been a LOT worst.
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-"There are no set of rules as to how a person should grieve. There are not instructions that I know of that say there’s a waiting period or grace period before you can move on with your own life or have an opinion in regards to the deceased."
I know about grief firsthand having experienced it for myself in my own family, but I see you STILL didn't get my point. LaToya was on DWTS, The View and practically every news show you can name, The brothers did Jackson Family Dynasty and any number of news shows but you notice I didn't point them out when I mentioned the Family loyalty issue. In other words, My point about Janet and Rebbie was NOT to crucify them for working, are you kidding me? What would I sound like telling them how to grieve and when to go to work? That's ludicrous! The reason I pointed them out was because they spoke about Michael's so-called drug addiction prior to an upcoming trial for his murder and IMO did him and themselves a disservice by prostituting themselves to the media with Michael as the point of attraction. Face it, if Michael wasn't gone, noone would've been asking Rebbie what she thought and based on how bad that Tyler Perry film did at the Box office, I doubt they'd be asking Janet a whole lot either...even if she does have millions and is talented. As I stated before, all of the Jacksons have had great success in their career--but the emphasis is on HAD. Again, let me reiterate my focus was FAMILY LOYALTY here. This could have been about the Jacksons or the Joneses next door and I still would feel the same. All of the rest of the siblings were posed the same questions on his drug use but they had the sense to either avoid the issue or claim ignorance, which may have been a lie, but I have to respect their sense of loyalty to Michael which is more than I can say for Janet and Rebbie...
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-"You don’t have to believe or receive anything from me. My experiences are totally different from yours."
Thing is, I DO receive from your posts which is why I'm even bothering to respond. I never meant to invalidate your opinions or experiences and I guess I thought we were above brueing over this...maybe I was wrong. I realize I have a tendency to pontificate, especially when it comes to Michael and anything anyone says against him is an issue for me. I would be the same if it were my family or close friends--my loyalty knows no bounds.
Because I grew up with the Jacksons, I often forget they're not my actual relatives or close friends. When I talk about them, it's still with love....well, maybe not Joe, Jermy and Randy, but the rest I DO feel that way or else I wouldn't have sat through the Reality Show every week. I guess I feel like I know where I'm coming from when I talk about them, but let someone else say anything about Janet or Jackie, and I'll be through!
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-"MJ was shrewd and far more cunning than you will ever know."
And you know this, how? No offense, but you have NO idea how much I know. Just because I don't wallow in the negatives about him means nothing. Furthermore, if I didn't know anything, I'd know that he was human, born in sin just like the rest of us. Again, you have me confused with someone else if you think I looked at Michael as a pushover. I've never said anything in my posts to indicate that. Heck, Michael couldn't sleep half his life because he was too busy entertaining ideas he received from God, because he said he worried they'd be taken away from him and given to Prince--hilarious!!
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-"Yet I will take a moment to clear up a misconception. I don’t care about current personal dilemmas. You have a right to dislike the Jacksons. I love them most due to a few of MJ’s final words:
“Jackie, Jermaine, Tito, Marlon, & Randy, I love you.”
“Joseph and Katherine God Bless You, I love you.”
I figure the misconception you refer to is that Michael didn't love them? I never said that. I have my issues with SOME of them not all. And I'm happy that you're at peace, peace is good for the soul. Thing is, what you wrote above only shows Michael's huge capacity for love and forgiveness more so than absolving his families' actions.
LET'S CONTINUE HIS EXAMPLE AND MOVE PAST THIS...
No Peace till Justice!
MICHAEL--IL.O.V.E.U4EVER

1495 days ago
463.

Butterfly    

Have to say although I love her new haircut--didn't realize it matched Michael's--I wasn't thrilled with her performance on Idol. After that great peformance of "Scream" on the MTV Music Awards, I was underwhelmed to say the least. I know Janet is 44, but that's not too old to be able to get in shape again if you're already a dancer like her. Maybe what she should do is work on her vocal performance if she's not going to dance. She knows how to "perform" a song, but her stage presence isn't enough to carry her if she's not dancing, IMO. Michael, on the other hand, had such a magical stage presence that he didn't even need to dance and he still would slay you--the dancing is what just made people go into hysterics--he was too much for them to take!! I never screamed at his sight, but I knew how they felt--still do...Michael was an out and out BEAST onstage!!



Exactly my thought`s



Love to read your comments,



(What would i do for one simply smile,...love you allways)



LOVE AND MISS YOU MORE

1494 days ago
464.

TheBusyLady    

Ladies, you need to write a book. This is waayy to much information for this forum. I'm amazed at your knowledge, but it's just too much information. Half as much would be really great!



Enjoy Your Day!

1494 days ago
465.

debi    

Randy's kids have aged out of the child support range unless she gets some agreement for college support. Jermaine has the under 18 children with her allowing for child support and likely alimony/support payments of some kind. Both brothers knew what they were doing when they were with her and these children are the result. If Jermaine is listed as a resident or part owner of the current residence or has his income tangled up with the rest of the family she is going to "sue" to pull that information out to provide for herself and her kids in the manner they were accustomed to.
Big support to grandma Jackson for taking this step, it had to be incredibly difficult but she is doing what is best for the younger children and in the end the entire family.

1494 days ago
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