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Oksana Taking on Debt to Fund War with Mel

7/30/2010 11:30 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Sources close to Oksana Grigorieva say she's going broke trying to battle Mel Gibson -- and, in fact, TMZ has learned Oksana's already had to take out a loan to pay her high-powered legal team.

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Multiple sources tell us that Oksana took out a loan just to make partial payment to her attorneys ... and she's also maxed out credit cards to fund what's become a legal World War with Gibson, who's hired three law firms. Legally speaking, it shapes up like David vs. Goliath.

People connected to Oksana claim Gibson cut off almost all support payments back in May when the mediation talks ended -- and Oksana turned her back on a $15 million agreement. Currently, we're told, Mel's only paying child support to the tune of $5,000 per month.

If Oksana's getting limited financial support from Mel -- and we know she isn't working -- then here's the obvious question: where's she getting money to live day to day?

We're told Oksana's seeking retroactive support payments from Gibson.


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61.

Tellthetruth59    

She needs to find the nearest soup kitchen in Malibu to feed her starving children.

She could also fabricate more tales and sell them to Radar.

Maybe Heather Mills will chair a "Gold Diggers" fundraiser for her.

1454 days ago
62.

Pimpcessa    

ROL is stating that Mel just shelled out 250K to pay for Oks attorneys. Imagine having to pay someones legal counsel when they are suing YOU!

1454 days ago
63.

Dennis Johnson    

What did this thing bring to the table other than a baby who had no choice to be there.I mean it is the oldest trick in the book marry a rich man or woman and have a baby right away and that will mean that the person will be a part of your ****ty life for ever.

1454 days ago
64.

lee    

Inconsistencies cont.:

15. Mel gave me a BLACK EYE! don't you believe me? When have I lied! I know both the DENTIST and the PEDIATRICIAN deny having SEEN such an injury, but I'm telling the truth, honest!I know I NEVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE, and it was never brought up at the prior SHAKEDOWN, er, AGREEMENT, but it REALLY happened, isn't that worth more money?? Can I pleezzz have as much as Robyn does now?????
Want a bj??

16. WITNESSES! I JUST THOUGHT of that, I MEAN REMEMBERED that!! I've had witnesses who SAW EVERYTHING! Nevermind that no one called 911, aren't you listening to my story, I MEAN truth? I know IT'S BEEN 6 MOS. to hear about this, but I've had a lot on my mind, my MUSIC, my BOTOX, my PR/LAWYER SHOPPING! What's a girl to do? I am an accomplished musician who had hundreds of thousands and a THRIVING career pre-Mel, and now my friends bring me food! BUT this is NOT about money!Where did I put that civil atty's number?

__________

1454 days ago
65.

lee    

Okskanka's Inconsistencies:
Keep adding as she posts more garbage..

1. I came home and walked in the door to find Mel raging - he jumped on me, hit and choked me, then chased me around with a gun - so that I had to flee barefoot in my nightgown. Hmmm - I thought she just got home? When did she have time in the midst of the chaos to change her clothes?

2. He hit me and broke two of my teeth. Wait, well not really- he knocked two of my veneers out... I don't know why the dentist says there was no trauma to my mouth... but I made sure to mention that MEL GIBSON hit me, only don't tell anyone...

3. Oh, by the way, when he knocked my teeth out (I mean, my veneers - I mean ONE of my veneers) he gave me a concussion. Only I didn't go to a doctor or report him. Wait, I remember now, I DID go to a doctor two days later... making sure to mention that MEL GIBSON HIT ME - only please don't tell anyone.

4. Oh - I almost forgot - he hit the baby too! Did I mention I was holding her? I have a picture of a binkie pimple - I MEAN BRUISE - to prove it. No, I didn't call the police, I was too busy getting me teeth fixed from when I fell down in the backyard - I MEAN, from when Mel hit me, to bother worrying about my ragdoll, I MEAN daughter... ahem.

5. Yes, I did go to several events with Mel immediately following all of this drama - in fact we travelled extensively to promote his new film. Hey, girls just want to have fun, right? What's a little concussion between lovers?

6. I have never had bad relationships before ... oh except for lying about being able to have kids and getting knocked up by Timoth Dalton "by accident" ... OH! That reminds me - my son saw this whole thing - yeah! He was in my bedroom with me while I was freaking out... I MEAN while Mel was beating us... OH! And then there was that other chap who I FAKED TAPES on to get more money. Hey, a girl needs to make a living... and it ain't going to be from my suck ass music!

7. I taped these conversations because I was afraid... although I never called the police or filed for a restraining order... did I mention that I have done this before? Oh, and don't listen to those forensic analysts who are saying the tapes have been doctored. They haven't. Really, I really, really mean it. Want a blow job?
What have I missed?

by peskybarb
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8. Oh , I FORGOT to tell you that Mel was enraged b/c he had QUIT SMOKING....no, wait, he was enraged b/c he needs MEDICATION, no, er, he's schizophrenic, no....I forgot, he's imbalanced..yes, that's it, he's imbalanced.....he's 'A MONSTER'...that's why I gave him 50/50 custody of my precious mealticket, oh, I mean baby and TRAVELED with him all over the world....because I knew he could hurt us any minute, due to his being so imbalanced and all....so I kept close to him as much as I could and CONTINUED TO LIVE IN HIS HOUSE, so when this erratic, volatile 'monster' decided to harm us, he'd know EXACTLY where we were and find us instantly.

9. Did I tell you how he punched me in the MOUTH, er, no, he punched me in the TEMPLE, er, no, he punched me TWICE, yes, THAT'S IT!, but I was SO INJURED that I went to the dentist to have my VENEErs fixed BEFORE going to a medical doctor...or seeking treatment for the mealticket, er, pawn, er BABY....
Then I went to a PEDIATRICIAN, for MYSELF NOT THE BABY, not the ER doctor, b/c even though two days had passed, I SUDDENLY realized that I had trouble tracking my eyes, after I went to sleep with a concussion (which one should never do)...

10. This is not about money, it's about protecting my ragdoll, er mealticket, er, I MEAN baby from a monster...did I mention that I'm living on BORROWED MONEY and CREDIT CARDS???? but this is NOT about money or revenge for not getting support other than child support...even though I'm still IN Mel's house w/ Mel's CAR and Mel's NANNY...I HAVE NOT A PENNY! I'm only 40, why should I earn a living by myself when I can sell, er, I MEAN not know who sold, pictures of my ragdoll, er baby! ,,so she can grow up and see how much I had HER interest in mind... But as any abuse victim can attest to, I am doing my best to GET AWAY from my abuser, that's why I'm sitting here in HIS house...contacting BOOK EDITORS and PR REPS...

by lee

11. I need lots of lawyers of all kinds - civil law, employment law, intellectual property law, domestic law - to protect my meal ticket, I MEAN baby and to cover the fact that I tried to extort, errr, I MEAN receive child support money from Mel, I mean the monster. I mean, if I get to keep her I get more mula for shoe shopping, well, I MEAN grocery shopping, and it will drive Mel crazy. Wait, he's already crazy, born like this, errr, he is crazy because he quit smoking. Many times he quit smoking, you know, because of me.

by Frieda

12. I need to make corraction to story. My lawyers has advised this since I am being crucified Mel-syle in media. Mel gave daughter big BRUISE on chin, but by bruise I MEAN ABRASION and by abrasion I MEAN MARK. It look like baby rash, but I swear Mel hit daughter, then punched me. He specifically say to me, "I am going to kill you, you Russian whore, but FIRST I need to punch our 2 month old daughther in the chin, so hold on a minute and let me punch her first and then I will get to you!" He is raging Irash man. He drink. He need madication. I did nothing to deserve this. I only not make bed and be lazy and not clean baby very well. (Spelling errors made on purpose.)

by EastCoastChick

13. Oh! I just remember another time he beat me before the first time in January! Wait, he beat the glass and chair, not me, but it doesn't matter as long as he beat and yell. I call Mel's boy in who wonder why I shake and hide. I tell him his daddy mad at him for not liking me then Mel get mad at me for saying it! That not fair!
I even pretend to be good Catholic for him but he still no marry me! Not fair!!

by Sammy

14. Mel put a HIT out on Harvey! Did I forget to mention that?
Yes, he did! he did! You believe me, don't you! Have I EVER LIED to you? I even REPORTED IT TO THE SHERIFF, oh, er, it doesn't matter that the sheriff DENIES THAT, you know how Mel OWNS the sheriff, whereas I'm just this coquetish, naive, violently abused innocent! He was going to go to HARV'S GYM!, it doesn't matter that I got the gym WRONG...who pays attention to such trivial details WHEN HARVEY'S LIFE IS AT STAKE! Mel wanted 'JEW BLOOD on his hands', doesn't that sound like something he would REALLY say! Actor/director by day, ZORRO-LIKE JEW EXTERMINATOR by night....

15. Mel gave me a BLACK EYE! don't you believe me? When have I lied! I know both the DENTIST and the PEDIATRICIAN deny having SEEN such an injury, but I'm telling the truth, honest!I know I NEVER MENTIONED IT BEFORE, and it was never brought up at the prior SHAKEDOWN, er, AGREEMENT, but it REALLY happened, isn't that worth more money?? Can I pleezzz have as much as Robyn does now?????
Want a bj??

16. WITNESSES! I JUST THOUGHT of that, I MEAN REMEMBERED that!! I've had witnesses who SAW EVERYTHING! Nevermind that no one called 911, aren't you listening to my story, I MEAN truth? I know IT'S BEEN 6 MOS. to hear about this, but I've had a lot on my mind, my MUSIC, my BOTOX, my PR/LAWYER SHOPPING! What's a girl to do? I am an accomplished musician who had hundreds of thousands and a THRIVING career pre-Mel, and now my friends bring me food! BUT this is NOT about money!Where did I put that civil atty's number?

__________

1454 days ago
66.

kk    

She thinks she deserves it.
Reminds me of Tiger Woods and all of his has beens,
she is just that
a has been loser, thinking she could bed a rich man then tell all about it to the press to further her pathetic career while blinking him for $$$$$$$.
This has been going on for centuries. You'd think these rich men would get the picture and not act like dogs in heat.
BOYCOTT OK SA NA!!!!! She is just another slag in a long line of deceitful people trying to make it look normal.
I love Arizona!!!!!!!!

1454 days ago
67.

John Wills    

I haven't got an opinion either way, I am interested in this story because of the total break down that has happened. But c'mon people. All you Oksana haters out there. Have you never been provoked in a row? Have you never been used by someone? Yes? Well, did you smash them in the face and stalk them with verbally agressive phonecalls? Bet you didn't. Did you call them every name under the sun just because they might be taking advantage of you - and then say the same again and again and again? Of course not, such behaviou is totally irrational. Yes, she is not destitute and no doubt she has family and friends to help her out, but just because Mel is worth close to a billion, does that make it right that he did what he is alleged to have done? C'mon, people. A bit of common sense here... She might be poorer, but being poorer or poor does not make you wrong. And I suspect that many of you are getting off on the names he is calling her - you seem to be as misogynistic as he is. He is obviously disturbed, having a mid life crisis - and whatever the origins of his anger, he is taking it out on her. Way to go Mel. What a big man you are.

1454 days ago
68.

Matt    

She's a greedy, money-grubbing whore ... nuff said. Mel might be a racist, but this is all her fault ... and it doesn't take away from his skills as an actor.

1454 days ago
69.

Danielle    

What collateral did she have to take out a loan? Mel owns the house she is living in, maybe he gave her the car she drives, but he said on the tapes he was not giving her thehouse, only letting her live there. She is forever shopping, or hiring lawyers and publicists, maybe she should get a job. She has a nanny, what more does this woman need? She has gotten to use to be taken care of and doesn't know how to care for herself. She is also getting child support frmo Mel, and I would assume also from Tim Dalton. Does she really thinks he is going to get support from Mel retroactively from the time the baby was born when he was paying for everything because they were together? This woman is plain loco.

1454 days ago
70.

cluesarethere    

I haven't got an opinion either way, I am interested in this story because of the total break down that has happened. But c'mon people. All you Oksana haters out there. Have you never been provoked in a row? Have you never been used by someone? Yes? Well, did you smash them in the face and stalk them with verbally agressive phonecalls? Bet you didn't. Did you call them every name under the sun just because they might be taking advantage of you - and then say the same again and again and again? Of course not, such behaviou is totally irrational. Yes, she is not destitute and no doubt she has family and friends to help her out, but just because Mel is worth close to a billion, does that make it right that he did what he is alleged to have done? C'mon, people. A bit of common sense here... She might be poorer, but being poorer or poor does not make you wrong. And I suspect that many of you are getting off on the names he is calling her - you seem to be as misogynistic as he is. He is obviously disturbed, having a mid life crisis - and whatever the origins of his anger, he is taking it out on her. Way to go Mel. What a big man you are.

Posted at 5:28 AM on Jul 30, 2010 by John Wills

That would be a fine arguement if there wasn't this 15 mil that she walked away from. Here was her chance to get out of your so call horrible life scenerio that you created. She had her chance to be set for the rest of her life but she chose to embarass Mel. For no other reason than greed. She doesnt take into consideration that her children will have to read about this later in life. Shame on her.

1454 days ago
71.

igotfleasfromtmz    

Your opion either way is crap. Try getting used for 5 million for video and boy when they say she sucks they arn't kidding.
Come on now try taking my millions and see what most people would say - he was actually nice about it. Deport her out of America and keep the cute little Gibson kid here. She is not Mother material , how many times was the bond boy under the bed when she was giving head.

1454 days ago
72.

cluesarethere    

The only collateral I can think of is the future sales from book and movie rights. Unfortunately she will make out very well on book and movie deal. Look at how intrigued the world is about this story. The more twisted the story the better the $$.

1454 days ago
73.

Genna    

Well, did you smash them in the face and stalk them with verbally agressive phonecalls?

Posted at 5:28 AM on Jul 30, 2010 by John Wills

The point is that she was not smashed in the face and there is evidence to dispute her claims that she was. "Stalk them with verbally aggressive phone calls" has also not yet been proven. As a matter of fact, there is evidence the phone calls were altered. Keep in mind, this woman never contacted the authorities, never took herself to the doctor or her baby to the doctor, exposed her and her children to this "dangerous man" for months following these alleged incidents.

Evidence has also surfaced that clearly point to Oksana as a liar and possible extortionist.

1454 days ago
74.

lee    

@john

You accuse us of being haters? This woman has done NOTHING that a real victim would do, she has consistently made allegations WITH NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE....
Women who are legitimate victims can suss her out for what she is...if we dislike her it is b/c she is making it worse for true victims...

She has lied about reporting a supposed 'hit' on Harvey to the sheriff, who shot down her claim, both doctors do not back up her claims of injuries,etc, on and on.....so there are many reasons to admonish someone who it seems is going out of her way for blood and money..., instead of caring for her children...

In addition, you say he physically abused her, we will wait to see if she can prove such allegations, so far her 'proof' is not authentic appearing..spliced tapes, and 3 ridiculous pixes, and not 1 911 call,nor report to authorities OF ANY KIND..

As far as misogynistic and poor, many of us have been poor, it doesn't cause us to run out and fabricate accusations over many years with many men to get money which we did not earn!

I don't think Gibson innocent b/c of his money, I think he's innocent b/c she's done NOTHING to give herself any credibility, the judge found her lawyer 'disingenuous at best', and custody was not remanded. I guess you think he woke up one day at 54 and decided to beat a baby? He's the one w/ a 28 year marriage and 7 children, SHE has been with older richer men since 19...who is disingenuous here?

I don't condone his language, but frankly, who wouldn't blow their top if they were being kept from seeing their child on Father's Day, and extorted after investing 5 million in a career? Don't forget, if the tapes were doctored, you have no idea what she said to engage him, either.

You seem to be the one judging Gibson as a batterer before any evidence has been ruled on, preferably unaltered evidence.

And it takes a really big woman to use her infant as a pawn for her personal monetary gain, doesn't it?

So who needs to use some common sense here?

If a judge finds evidence credible, then i'll belireve her allegations, as it stands, she's done nothing to help her case.

1454 days ago
75.

V    

Wonder what she used for collateral? And I wonder what entity gave her the loan? Could this money she received be re-routed to her account but actually have originated with the sale of those illegal tapes?

Don't stories surfacing yet again about how cash strapped she is actually throw some gas on the fire she IS concerned about MONEY, she has not managed her money wisely through the years, and she quite possibly seeing the writing on the wall her relationship with Mel was over chose to try and bolster her finances by extortion? Wouldn't it have made more sense to NOT speak of money AT ALL giving the impression she doesn't care about money and has no monetary problems? (Understand virtually impossible because she and her friends and family have made a practice of mentioning money since the woman moved to the UK when she was 19! Maybe altering her MO now would be suspicious? – Makes me think of a character in an Elizabeth Gaskell book who remarked on his cir***stances every time he opened his mouth, the other residents of Cranford found it TACKY and unnecessary! The man was singly focused and driven by the pursuit of money)

If this story was approved and circulated by her new PR guy, didn't he just shoot himself and Oksana in the foot? Surely this doesn’t improve her image? Or could the deal/contract she signed with the new PR firm included money in her pocket and it was very important to make sure the amount was published as a loan to solely protect the PR firm?

Since there is an active EXTORTION investigation, and there additionally is the sale of the court sealed illegal recording wouldn't any loan she secured need to be examined by authorities?

If Oksana went to a regular Joe lender like a bank wouldn't there be loan papers listing assets, debts, etc. and the institution’s lending practices would need to be followed? Anyone else find it creditable she MAXED out her credit cards, she is a boarder and not a property owner, her car has depreciated in value and was originally a gift, her job/career is in an industry notoriously unreliable, her most recent job reference would most likely not be positive, she is not a citizen of the US, AND WITH ALL THESE FACTORS SHE COULD QUALIFY FOR A LOAN AT ALL AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME when within the STATE OF CA AND ACROSS OUR COUNTRY AND ENGLAND CREDIT HAS TIGHTENED ? Really heightens the curiosity factor as to WHO and UNDER what CONDITIONS she secured any loan, doesn’t it?

Remember she and her team released something several weeks ago about how she was reduced to providing food and caring for her children by using credit cards? The inference was Mel was not paying properly for Lucia. (and by releasing such a story at that time she cast a negative light on Timothy Dalton and his son’s welfare). NOW THIS TMZ STORY says she USED HER CREDIT CARDS to PAY FOR ATTORNEYS. So NOT to pay for her children's welfare. Not to provide FOOD or SHELTER for herself or her children? BUT TO HIRE MORE ATTORNEYS TO FILE MORE MOTIONS TO HELP HER ACHIEVE HER DESIRES? I wonder who paid for the lawsuits the year before? And is it correct Mel FRONTED her a quarter of a million dollars to aid her while they ironed out the child custody terms? If this did happen, wonder when she got it? Wonder if it was contractually ONLY to be used for that specific purpose? Wonder if that was part of the terms of their CO-HABITATION agreement? Those types of agreements are not widely understood or known. Sure would be great to see what one looks like!

I really really wish TMZ or someone would FIND OUT IF Oksana was given the HOUSE in Cheswick when Timothy Dalton and she went their separate ways. Very curious if the 4Million reported in the UK papers at that time (2005) included the HOUSE or if the money was separate. I would like to know if she was awarded any home in that separation what did she do with it? Did she sell it? And if yes, when and for how much? Anyway you look at it, as of 2005 she had millions. Where did she live? Did she buy property and make sure she wisely set up a budget and establish a home for her and Sasha or did she blow money all on clothes, plastic surgery, and her celebrity/career climb? The UK papers did great work when Oksana and Timothy Dalton became an item. Why hasn't anyone there or here updated her public bio so folks can have a better understanding of who this woman really was/is versus the ever morphing back story she and her team try to get us to swallow?

I for one want to know how she was able to locate to the US? Did she have a VISA? Was Sasha born here and that allowed her to come here? She remarked during the Sept 22 2009 GMTV interview she met Mel while on her way to London to sign with some management company? She is an English citizen correct? Would such a contract have allowed her to stay in the US? Where and how did she live between 2005 -2009? Who or what did she do between 2005 and 2009 when she met Mel Gibson in Boston?
She filed a lawsuit last year against Sam Oriti in CA claiming the Pink panty piano photo shoot her property because she paid for the underwear, the session and it occurred in her home in 2004. 2004? So she was already living in the US while married to Timothy Dalton? Quite confusing. Did the legal separation filing happen in the US or England or BOTH? Did the way she and Dalton part allow her the ability to live and BORROW in the US without obtaining citizenship here?

Why do media outfits prefer to regurgitate stuff from this woman's perspective instead of digging for the REST OF THE STORY? Bet the rest of the story is more intriguing.

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