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Joel Osteen's associate pastor, John Gray, absolutely thinks the 2 flight attendants who went toe-to-toe with his wife would've handled things differently if she were white.

Rev. Gray -- a host on "The Preachers" -- and Aventer were on "TMZ Live" Friday trying to explain why she was singled out by the American Airlines crew when she attempted to switch seats with her nanny.

Check out the clip ... John stops just short of calling it straight up racism, but he clearly thinks Aventer was treated differently because of what she was wearing, and POSSIBLY because she's black.

We broke the story ... cops were called and Aventer was briefly removed from the flight. She was ultimately allowed back on, and the 2 flight attendants got booted.

Conrad Murray still insists he didn't have a hand in Michael Jackson's death -- despite his guilty conviction and 2 years in jail -- and even believes he wasn't the worst doctor in MJ's life.

Murray was on "TMZ Live" to talk about the new book he wrote about Michael, who was his patient and friend. But Murray claims Jackson concealed details about other drugs he was on -- besides the Propofol administered by Murray.

Watch the clip ... Murray refused to own up to having any role in Michael's homicide -- instead he backed up the bus over the late Dr. Arnold Klein.

By the way, Murray's claims about getting railroaded by the coroner and Propofol not being in Michael's system? Read the report ... he's got it wrong.

You can see the rest of the interview on Tuesday's "TMZ Live."

Third Eye Blind has zero regrets about trolling Donald Trump supporters who filled the crowd at their Cleveland concert.

Frontman Stephan Jenkins was on "TMZ Live" Wednesday and said the band had no idea their charity gig at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would be saturated with Trump supporters in town for the RNC.

You gotta see him describe the moment he figured out who they were playing to -- and it sounds like the fact Trump just got nominated wasn't sitting well with the band ... which went on to play obscure tracks and poke fun at the GOP platform. You can guess how that went over -- lots of boos.

As for whether they avoided playing their biggest hit, "Semi-Charmed Life" on purpose? Stephan gave us the most awesome answer.

Tons of HUGE agents came calling for NBA prospect Terrance Ferguson when he announced he'd be skipping college to play pro ball in Australia -- so the question, why did he choose Lil Wayne?

The 18-year-old phenom joined the guys on the "TMZ Sports" TV show (airs Thursday on FS1) and explained why he felt Young Money Sports is the best fit.

Oh ... and that fact he went to prom with smokin' hot Young Money artist Stephanie Acevedo -- yeah, that didn't hurt either!!!

FYI -- Ferguson is one of the top high school players in the country and is heading Down Under for a year until he's eligible to enter the NBA draft.

Mark Hoppus has a warning for Blink-182 fans ... DON'T MESS WITH HIS "POKEMON GO" GAME!!!

Mark's a longtime Poke-player and called into "TMZ Live" to explain why the latest version of the game is taking over everyone's lives, including his.