La verdadera lista de Schindler vuelve a estar a la venta tras una rebaja de precio
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La única copia de la Lista de Schindler está volviendo al mercado de nuevo después de un recorte de precios.
La reliquia histórica está actualmente a la venta por $1.8 millones a través de la compañía de recuerdos Momentos en el Tiempo a través de un coleccionista que obtuvo la lista de la familia de Itzhak Stern contador de Schindler y mano derecha.
Con los años, la lista ha estado a la venta un par de veces ... con su precio de venta siempre por encima de $ 2M - el más alto es de $ 2.5M ... aunque nunca ha tenido ningún comprador.
El coleccionista espera que el precio rebajado sea más asequible ... con el sitio entusiasmado por la oportunidad de "adquirir un artículo de magnitud verdaderamente increíble".
Esta lista, fechada el 18 de abril de 1945, es la penúltima de un total de 7 ... con 14 páginas y 801 nombres.
También es una de las cuatro únicas listas que existen, una de las cuales se encuentra en el Museo del Holocausto de Washington D.C. y las otras dos en el Centro para la Memoria del Holocausto Yad Vashem, en Jerusalén.
La venta de este artículo es especialmente relevante hoy en día ... dado el rápido surgimiento del antisemitismo en medio del conflicto Israel-Palestina.
Los documentos fueron utilizados por el industrial alemán Oskar Schindler, que salvó la vida de más de 1.200 judíos durante el Holocausto empleándolos en sus fábricas de esmaltes y municiones.
Schindler fue el protagonista de la aclamada película de Steven Spielberg "La lista de Schindler" (1993), que recibió siete Oscars por la interpretación de Liam Neeson y Sir Ben Kingsley.
SCHINDLER'S LIST ORIGINAL COPY ON SALE FOR $1.8M
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The only copy of Schindler's List ever for sale is hitting the market again ... following a price cut.
The rare historical relic is currently on sale for $1.8 million through memorabilia company Moments in Time ... via a collector who obtained the list from the family of Itzhak Stern -- Schindler's accountant and right-hand man.
Over the years, the list has been up for sale a few times ... with its asking price always over $2M -- the highest being $2.5M ... though it's never had any takers.
The collector hopes the lowered price is more affordable ... with the site gushing over the opportunity to "acquire an item of truly incredible magnitude."
This list, dated April 18, 1945, is the penultimate list of a total of 7 ... coming in at 14 pages long and listing 801 names.
It's also one of the only 4 lists in existence -- one is homed at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C ... the other two are in Israel's Holocaust Remembrance Center Yad Vashem, in Jerusalem.
The sale of this item is especially relevant today ... given the rapidly emerging antisemitism amid the Israel-Palestine conflict.
The docs were used by German industrialist Oskar Schindler ... who saved more than 1,200 Jews' lives during the Holocaust by employing them in his enamelware and ammunition factories.
He was the subject of Steven Spielberg's critically acclaimed 1993 film "Schindler's List" ... with the Liam Neeson/Sir Ben Kingsley-starring movie bagging 7 Oscars.
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Kanye West Name Written on Israeli Missile ... MMA Fighter Taking Credit
Kanye West's name was written onto an Israeli missile that's apparently going to be used in the war in the Middle East -- and a prominent MMA fighter is taking credit for the stunt.
A photo was posted Sunday by Haim Gozali, an Israeli mixed-martial artist who was once affiliated with Bellator -- and who's been very outspoken on the conflict between Israel and Hamas ... oftentimes mocking the death of Palestinians over these past few months.
He caught heat back in November for writing the names of Muslim UFC fighters onto a bomb that seemed to be on the front lines -- including Khabib Nurmagomedov and others who've expressed support for Palestine. Haim was clearly trying to taunt them.
It's unclear if he himself is the one that's actually writing the names, or if he's having someone else in the IDF do it on his behalf -- but in any case, the guy has owned it all.
Now, a new photo of some missiles apparently in the possession of Israeli soldiers has been posted to his Twitter account -- and he's roping Kanye in ... in very crude and cruel fashion.
Above the pic of the missile -- which looks real -- he wrote, "@kanyewest you don’t like us jewish. So we don’t like you too !!!" The picture itself features a shell with the writing ... "Kanye West Flying to Gaza Haim Gozali." The photo echoes what he'd posted before.
Haim appears to have been recently banned from X, but he's back now ... and reveling in the ability to post again -- with this image being one of the first things he's thrown up.
Of course, the reason he's even invoking Ye has to do with KW's antisemitic rhetoric over the past year or so. He hasn't explicitly talked much about the war, but he has spent a lot of time in that region for the past several months working on and finishing his new album.
Kanye hasn't addressed Haim's call-out, and it remains to be seen if he will.
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Un sacerdote llama "judío palestino" a Jesús durante una entrevista navideña en la CNN
Un sacerdote católico acudió a la CNN en Navidad para decir que Jesús era un palestino perseguido y que la historia de su nacimiento tiene paralelismos con lo que está ocurriendo en Oriente Próximo.
El padre Edward Beck -un colaborador habitual- se unió a los presentadores de la mañana del lunes para discutir el tema de cómo mantener viva la fe en estas fiestas con todo lo que está pasando en el mundo... esto haciendo referencia a la guerra entre Israel y Hamás con los palestinos atrapados en el medio.
Dijo que la historia de Navidad era en realidad la de un "judío palestino", señalando lo extraordinario que es escuchar esas dos palabras juntas. El Padre Beck continuó diciendo que Jesús nació en un país ocupado y que su madre y su padre (María/José) fueron forzados a huir a Egipto como refugiados, lo cual es técnicamente correcto, en lo que a la Biblia se refiere.
Beck continuó diciendo que el mismo tipo de cosas están sucediendo ahora en 2023 y mientras que él no vino abiertamente como alguien pro-Palestina, así es como sus comentarios fueron percibidos.
De hecho, hay mucha polémica en Internet sobre la sugerencia de que Jesús era palestino y que podría haberse identificado más con la difícil situación actual de los palestinos que con la de los israelíes. Como muchos han señalado en Internet, Palestina ni siquiera existía entonces.
Por otro lado, tampoco existía el Estado de Israel tal y como lo conocemos actualmente, pero lo único que es innegable es que Jesús era judío, valga lo que valga en este encarnizado debate.
El Padre Beck ha defendido en línea lo que dijo en algunos debates. Una vez más, algunos tomaron sus palabras aquí para dar a entender que Jesús era más palestino/árabe que judío, pero Beck dice que sus palabras están siendo tergiversadas y su mensaje iba enfocado a la paz y unidad.
También ha publicado artículos que hacen referencia al uso histórico de la palabra "palestino" y a cómo, al parecer, se ha empleado para identificar a musulmanes, judíos y otras personas que han vivido en esa región durante milenios. En otras palabras, el Padre Beck está reafirmando la noción de que Jesús era palestino y que el hecho de que también fuera judío no lo contradice necesariamente.
Sin duda es una conversación muy interesante y parece que ha encendido la furia de ambas partes. Como el propio Jesús podría haber dicho en términos más elocuentes, ¿no podemos llevarnos bien, chicos?
Catholic Priest JC Was Persecuted 'Palestinian Jew'!!! Sparks Big Debate on Xmas
A Catholic priest came on CNN on Christmas to say Jesus was a persecuted Palestinian -- and that the story of his birth contains parallels to what's going on in the Middle East.
Father Edward Beck -- a regular contributor -- joined Monday morning's anchors to discuss the topic of how to keep faith alive this holiday season with everything going on in the world ... namely, the war between Israel and Hamas, with Palestinians caught in the middle.
He said the story of Xmas was actually one of a "Palestinian Jew" -- noting how extraordinary it is to hear those 2 words put together. Father Beck went on to say JC was born into an occupied country, and that his mother and father (Mary/Joseph) were forced to flee into Egypt as refugees ... which is technically correct, as far as the Bible's concerned.
Beck went on to say the same sort of thing is going on right now in 2023 -- and while he didn't outright come out as explicitly pro-Palestine ... that's how his remarks were perceived.
In fact, there's a lot of handwringing happening online over the suggestion that Jesus was Palestinian ... and that he might've identified more so with the current Palestinian plight over that of Israelis. As many have pointed out online, Palestine didn't even exist back then.
On the flip side, neither did the state of Israel as we currently know it ... but the one thing that's undeniable is that JC was Jewish, for whatever's that worth in this raging debate.
You should be ashamed of yourself, distorting what I said like that. Sowing more division.
— Father Edward L. Beck (@FrEdwardBeck) December 25, 2023 @FrEdwardBeck
(And I would think you would know that the “state of Israel” came into existence in 1948.)
Merry Christmas!
Father Beck has defended what he said in some back-and-forths online. Again, some took his words here to imply that Jesus was more so Palestinian/Arab than he was Jewish -- but Beck says his words are being twisted, and his larger message of peace/unity overshadowed.
He's also posted articles that reference the use of the word "Palestinian" historically -- and how it's apparently been employed to identify Muslims, Jews and others who've lived in that region dating back millennia. In other words, Father Beck's doubling down on the notion Jesus was Palestinian ... and that him also being Jewish doesn't necessarily contradict that.
It's a doozy of a conversation, for sure ... and it's ignited a fury on both sides, it seems. As Jesus himself might've said in more eloquent terms -- can't we all just get along, guys???
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Melissa Barrera publica un post a favor de Palestina en medio de la salida del director de "Scream 7"
Melissa Barrera está redoblando su apoyo a Palestina mientras habla de las fiestas... recordemos que la franquicia "Scream" está en ruinas.
La actriz publicó un mensaje en su Instagram el domingo, justo antes de Navidad, y de nuevo puso el foco en la guerra en Oriente Medio, que se ha cobrado innumerables vidas en este momento, sobre todo porque Israel sigue tratando de cazar a Hamás.
Ella lanzó una caricatura de Santa en su trineo pasando por un carro que transportaba cadáveres envueltos -como comentario político, sin duda- y añadió un pie de foto muy directo.
Dice: "ESPERO QUE ESTA NAVIDAD SE SIENTA... RARA. ESPERO QUE NO PUEDAS IGNORAR EL HECHO DE QUE ESTÁS CELEBRANDO EL NACIMIENTO DE UN NIÑO QUE FUE PERSEGUIDO Y ATACADO Y SUS PADRES OBLIGADOS A HUIR A EGIPTO".
Melissa continúa diciendo que exactamente lo mismo les está ocurriendo a millones de palestinos en esa misma parte del mundo, todos estos años después "son bombardeados indiscriminada e implacablemente". Termina su mensaje con un simple y contundente "FELIZ NAVIDAD".
I guess now is as good a time as any to announce I formally exited Scream 7 weeks ago. This will disappoint some and delight others. It was a dream job that turned into a nightmare. And my heart did break for everyone involved. Everyone. But it’s time to move on. I have nothing
— christopher landon (@creetureshow) December 23, 2023 @creetureshow
Por supuesto, su posición no ha cambiado, pero el hecho de que esté hablando en este momento es curioso, sobre todo porque el director que iba a dirigir la nueva película "Scream" de la que fue despedida por sus puntos de vista pro-Palestina, acaba de anunciar que está dejando el proyecto también.
Christopher Landon dio la noticia el sábado, diciendo que abandonó "Scream 7" hace semanas sin explicar por qué. Lo que dijo, sin embargo, fue revelador... "Fue un trabajo de ensueño que se convirtió en una pesadilla. Y mi corazón se rompió por todos los involucrados. Por todos". Y añadió: "Espero que el legado de Wes prospere y se eleve por encima del estruendo de un mundo dividido".
Suena como que podría haber sido a causa de todo este asunto de Israel-Palestina y muchos sospechan que Jenna Ortega también, a pesar de que se citaron otras razones no relacionadas.
En cualquier caso, el nuevo "Scream 7" se ve bastante mal en este momento. Spyglass no solo ha perdido a sus dos grandes protagonistas, sino que también acaba de perder a su director. La pregunta es... ¿y ahora qué?
Melissa Barrera Pro-Palestine Xmas Message ... Amid 'Scream 7' Collapse
Melissa Barrera is doubling down in her support of Palestine while speaking on the holidays -- and the timing is interesting ... considering the 'Scream' franchise is in shambles.
The actress posted a message to her Instagram Sunday, just ahead of Christmas, and it again put a spotlight on the war going on in the Middle East ... which has claimed countless lives at this point, especially as Israel continues to try and hunt down Hamas.
She threw up a cartoon of Santa on his sleigh passing by a cart carrying dead/wrapped-up bodies -- as political commentary, no doubt -- and she added a very in-your-face caption.
It reads, in part ... "I HOPE THIS CHRISTMAS FEELS... WEIRD. I HOPE YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF A CHILD WHO WAS PERSECUTED AND TARGETED AND HIS PARENTS FORCED TO FLEE OT EGYPT."
Melissa goes on to say the exact same thing is happening to millions of Palestinians in that same part of the world all these years later ... all while "they are indiscriminately and relentlessly bombed." She ends her message with a simple and blunt "MERRY XMAS."
I guess now is as good a time as any to announce I formally exited Scream 7 weeks ago. This will disappoint some and delight others. It was a dream job that turned into a nightmare. And my heart did break for everyone involved. Everyone. But it’s time to move on. I have nothing
— christopher landon (@creetureshow) December 23, 2023 @creetureshow
Of course, her position hasn't changed ... but the fact she's speaking right now is curious, especially since the director who was attached to the new 'Scream' movie she was fired from over her pro-Palestine views *just* announced that he's leaving the project as well.
Christopher Landon broke the news Saturday, saying he exited 'Scream 7' weeks ago without explaining why. What he did say, though, was telling ... writing, "It was a dream job that turned into a nightmare. And my heart did break for everyone involved. Everyone." He added, "I hope Wes’ legacy thrives and lifts above the din of a divided world."
Sounds like he might've bounced over this whole Israel-Palestine issue too -- and many suspect Jenna Ortega did as well ... even though other unrelated reasons were cited.
In any case, the new 'Scream 7' is looking pretty rough at this point. Not only has Spyglass lost their two big leads, but they also just lost their director. The question ... what now?
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Scooter Braun Pide a los artistas con grandes plataformas ¡¡¡Hagan más por los rehenes israelíes!!!
Scooter Braun está haciendo un llamado a las estrellas de la industria de la música, exigiendo que hagan más con sus grandes plataformas para ayudar a los rehenes israelíes en el Medio Oriente.
El ejecutivo de la música se sentó con Rachel Goldberg, la madre de Hersh Goldberg-Polin, un rehén israelí que ha sido retenido en Gaza durante 76 días. Rachel dice que ha estado luchando para conseguir que las grandes celebridades ayuden a difundir la historia de su hijo, diciendo: "el silencio de la industria de la música ha sido tan ensordecedoramente palpable para nosotros".
Según Scooter y Rachel, las celebridades son reacias a hablar sobre el tema debido a los matices del conflicto entre Israel y Palestina, pero Scooter dice que eso no es una razón válida para permanecer en silencio.
Como lo dice Scooter, solo está rogando que la gente diga "algo" y pidan que los rehenes vuelvan a casa. Scooter reconoce que se trata de un tema delicado, pero el hecho de que el ataque de Hamás se produjera en un festival de música debería convertirlo en algo personal para todos los que trabajan en la industria.
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Scooter Braun ha estado pasando tiempo en Israel ayudando a las personas necesitadas.
Por cierto, Rachel se unió a nosotros en "TMZ Live" el mes pasado y habló de cómo ella está trabajando día y noche para traer a su hijo a casa.
Scooter Braun Calls On Artists With Big Platforms Do More For Israeli Hostages!!!
Scooter Braun is calling out A-listers in the music industry ... demanding they do more with their large platforms to help Israeli hostages in the Middle East.
The music exec sat down with Rachel Goldberg, the mother of Hersh Goldberg-Polin, an Israeli hostage who's been held in Gaza for 76 days. Rachel says she's been struggling to get big celebs to help spread the word about her son, saying, "the silence from the music industry has been so deafeningly palpable for us."
According to Scooter and Rachel ... celebs are hesitant to speak on the subject due to the nuance of the conflict between Israel and Palestine -- but Scooter says that's not a valid reason to stay quiet.
As Scooter puts it, he's begging people to just say "something" and ask for the hostages to come home. Scooter acknowledges this is a sensitive subject matter ... but the fact that Hamas' attack happened at a music festival should make it personal to everyone who works in the industry.
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SB has been spending time in Israel helping people in need.
BTW, Rachel joined us on "TMZ Live" last month, and spoke about how she's working around the clock to get her son home.
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Israel Defense Forces Soldier Nearly Killed Stands In Front of Tank
An Israel Defense Forces soldier nearly took a tank shell to the face ... and now the super close call is under investigation.
New footage out of the Middle East shows an IDF member standing just a few feet away from a tank right as it opens fire.
The force of the blast knocks the soldier back several feet and the missile appears to whizz right over her head. It appears the soldier notices the tank opening fire at the last second ... and she starts to react as the missile fires.
The video is making the rounds on social media and now the IDF says an "in-depth investigation" into the incident is underway and "penalties will be imposed."
In a statement, Israel's army says the incident is "serious and completely deviates from the IDF's safety instructions."
Fortunately, the IDF says the soldier in the video was not seriously injured.
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Investigan un video en el que se ve a una soldado de pie delante de un tanque mientras abre fuego
Una soldado de las Fuerzas de Defensa de Israel casi recibió un proyectil de tanque en la cara y el hecho está bajo investigación.
Nuevas imágenes de Oriente Medio muestran a una miembro de las FDI de pie a pocos metros de un tanque justo cuando abre fuego.
La fuerza de la explosión hace retroceder a la soldado varios metros y el misil parece pasar muy cerca de su cabeza. Parece que la soldado se da cuenta de que el tanque abre fuego en el último segundo y reacciona mientras el misil se dispara.
El video está rondando en redes sociales y ahora las FDI dicen que una "investigación en profundidad" sobre el incidente está en marcha y "se impondrán sanciones".
En un comunicado, el ejército de Israel dice que el incidente es "grave y se desvía completamente de las instrucciones de seguridad de las FDI".
Afortunadamente, las FDI dicen que la soldado en el video no resultó gravemente herido
Alec Baldwin Goes Ballistic On Pro-Palestinian Protester ... Caught On Video
Alec Baldwin popped up at a pro-Palestinian demonstration in NYC -- and blew a gasket at an anti-Israel protester, prompting police to whisk away the actor before the situation escalated.
Baldwin got into a heated back-and-forth with the man at Monday night's march in Manhattan, which was organized by a Palestinian-led community group, Within Our Lifetime. It wasn't clear if Baldwin was part of the protest or just passing through.
Check out the video shot by NBC ... Baldwin offers a stern look to the man who mentions something about Hollywood -- and condemning Israel for the war in the Gaza Strip.
Baldwin responds, "You've already got your mind made up. I'm in Hollywood?"
The man repeatedly asks, "Is that your answer?"
Baldwin shouts, "You ask stupid questions! Ask me a smart question!"
The man starts screaming again about condemning Israel.
That's when Baldwin completely loses his s**t, getting in the man's face and yelling, "Ask me a smart question!!!!"
Luckily, NYPD officers were right there to escort Baldwin away before things potentially turned violent.
Other videos show Baldwin protected by cops as he gets heckled by protesters who are cursing at him. At one point, Baldwin turns to the demonstrators and says, "You're really helping your cause."
As you know, Israel has been at war with Hamas since October -- and thousands of people have died on both sides.
Hamas militants -- who govern the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip - triggered the conflict after invading Israel, killing 1,400 citizens.
The battle has spawned passionate calls from people all over the world to end the violence.
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Alec Baldwin Se ensaña con un manifestante pro palestino... Grabado en video
Alec Baldwin apareció en una manifestación pro-palestina en Nueva York y perdió los estribos frente a un protestante anti-israelí, lo que llevó a la policía a retirar al actor de la escena antes de que la situación se intensificara.
Baldwin se enzarzó en un acalorado tira y afloja con el hombre en la marcha del lunes por la noche en Manhattan, organizada por un grupo comunitario palestino, Within Our Lifetime. No está claro si Baldwin estaba participando en la protesta o si solo pasaba por allí.
Echa un vistazo al video grabado por NBC, Baldwin mira severamente al hombre cuando menciona algo acerca de Hollywood y condenar a Israel por la guerra en la Franja de Gaza.
Baldwin responde: "Ya te has hecho una idea. ¿Estoy en Hollywood?"
El hombre pregunta repetidamente: "¿Esa es tu respuesta?"
Baldwin grita: "¡Haces preguntas estúpidas! Hazme una pregunta inteligente".
El hombre empieza a gritar de nuevo sobre condenar a Israel.
Es entonces cuando Baldwin pierde completamente los estribos, encarándose con el hombre y gritándole: "¡Hazme una pregunta inteligente!".
Por suerte, los agentes de policía de Nueva York estaban allí para escoltar a Baldwin antes de que las cosas se pusieran violentas.
Otros videos muestran a Baldwin protegido por los policías mientras es abucheado por manifestantes que lo insultan. En un momento dado, Baldwin se dirige a los manifestantes y les dice: "Realmente están ayudando a vuestra causa".
Como ustedes saben, Israel ha estado en guerra con Hamás desde octubre y miles de personas han muerto en ambos lados.
Los militantes de Hamás, que gobiernan a los palestinos en la Franja de Gaza, desencadenaron el conflicto tras invadir Israel, matando a 1.400 ciudadanos.
La batalla ha suscitado llamamientos apasionados de personas de todo el mundo para poner fin a la violencia.
Israel-Hamas War Family of Hostage Calls For Release ... Time Is of the Essence!!!
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Omri Miran is among the Israeli hostages being held captive by Hamas ... and his brother-in-law, a former captain in the Israel Defense Forces, is calling for his safe return ASAP.
Moshe Lavi, the former IDF captain, says Omri was held at gunpoint by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7, when he was kidnapped from his home in Kibbutz Nahal Oz. Moshe says Omri's wife, his sister Lishay, and the couple's 2 daughters, Roni and Alma, were also held at gunpoint with Omri before ultimately being left behind and rescued by the IDF.
Some hostages have since been released by Hamas, but Omri was not among them ... so Moshe and family members of other hostages are pressuring public officials in Israel and across the globe to do whatever is necessary to bring more hostages home.
Moshe tells TMZ ... his family hasn't received any official word of how Omri is doing in captivity, though hostages released 2 weeks ago claimed Omri was seen alive in one of the Hamas tunnels in Gaza.
Still, Moshe says just because Omri was said to be safe back then doesn't mean he's in good shape now ... as Moshe points out, "Every second in captivity is eternity" ... which is why time is of the essence here.
Of grave concern to all the families is the fact 3 of the remaining hostages were accidentally killed during IDF efforts to take out Hamas militants. The victims have been identified, and Omri is not among them.
But, Moshe is calling on public officials to work day and night to bring Omri and his fellow captives back safely to their loved ones.
It's an important, and at times emotional, conversation ... and Moshe has a message for his brother-in-law.
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Un familiar de un rehén de Hamás aboga por su liberación: "El tiempo es oro"
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Omri Miran es uno de los rehenes israelíes cautivos de Hamás y su cuñado, ex capitán de las Fuerzas de Defensa de Israel, pide que sea liberado cuanto antes.
Moshe Lavi, ex capitán de las FDI, dice que Omri fue retenido a punta de pistola por terroristas de Hamás el 7 de octubre, cuando fue secuestrado en su casa del kibutz Nahal Oz. Moshe dice que la esposa de Omri, su hermana Lishay y las dos hijas de la pareja, Roni y Alma, también fueron retenidas a punta de pistola con Omri antes de ser finalmente abandonadas y rescatadas por las FDI.
Algunos rehenes han sido liberados por Hamás, pero Omri no estaba entre ellos, por lo que Moshe y familiares de otros rehenes están presionando a los funcionarios públicos en Israel y en todo el mundo para hacer todo lo necesario para traer más rehenes a casa.
Moshe le dice a TMZ que su familia no ha recibido ninguna palabra oficial de cómo Omri está haciendo en cautiverio, aunque los rehenes liberados hace dos semanas afirmaron que Omri fue visto vivo en uno de los túneles de Hamás en Gaza.
Sin embargo, Moshe dice que solo porque Omri dijo que era seguro en ese entonces, no significa que esté en buena forma ahora. Como Moshe señala: "Cada segundo en cautiverio es la eternidad", por eso el tiempo es esencial aquí.
Como resultado, Moshe está pidiendo que los funcionarios públicos a trabajen día y noche para traer a Omri y a sus compañeros cautivos de vuelta a sus seres queridos.
Es una conversación importante y a veces emotiva... y Moshe tiene un mensaje para su cuñado.
Bill Maher Israel-Palestine Land Dispute Old News So Move On
Bill Maher defies most celebrities who straddle the fence and really say nothing when they "speak out" about the Israel-Hamas war ... he has a very strong POV, which involves a heavy dose of reality and reasonable negotiation.
The 'Real Time' host took his audience all the way back to Bethlehem, which is now controlled by the Palestinians. It used to be 86% Christian ... now it's overwhelmingly Muslim. Things change, BM says.
He goes through a litany of countries that became other countries under different control ... things change. A good example is 30 years of carnage in Northern Ireland, which essentially ended with both sides acknowledging a land shift. Things change.
His overarching point ... Israel is going nowhere -- it's staying put, and the chants of "from the river to the sea" he says are pipe dreams not rooted in reality.
Bill seems pretty clear -- negotiating an end to the war without acknowledgment you can't turn the clock back decades is not only unrealistic -- it cuts both ways. So Bill's saying if Hamas doesn't get real and acknowledge there's no negotiation that involves the elimination of Israel, then they're becoming the modern-day Northern Ireland.
Not everyone's gonna agree, for sure, but that's his POV.